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Post by dusko1 on Feb 23, 2010 23:47:38 GMT -5
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Post by ngadhnjyesi on Feb 24, 2010 10:46:44 GMT -5
Are you a researcher from the acclaimed YouTube University?
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Post by leshte on Feb 24, 2010 13:34:35 GMT -5
Ngodho guess where this comes from. Do you know how he got into Youtube University? He had to open a door.
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PARIS DIO_MYSUS!
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Feb 24, 2010 15:32:05 GMT -5
Anything you want know about Illyrians here is the Web Site, www.illyrians.org/Alb-Illyrians are descendants of Etrurians which those are descendants of Pelasgians and these all are related and originated to Myself Mysia JESUS The Messiah and to My Kingdom Messinia.
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Post by ajax on Feb 24, 2010 15:38:10 GMT -5
Albanians are not Illyrians. They are from Azerbajian. That's probably the reason why they feel so close to the Turks.
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Post by leshte on Feb 24, 2010 15:45:34 GMT -5
^^ Here's another fine Youtube graduate.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Feb 24, 2010 15:54:06 GMT -5
I thought that this forum had matured at least in some regards... looks like it has regressed...
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Post by ngadhnjyesi on Feb 24, 2010 16:05:25 GMT -5
I thought that this forum had matured at least in some regards... looks like it has regressed... If I lost my "Jerusalem" to some alien non native people I'd lose my marbles too. I'd probably urge my fellow citizens to commit mass national suicide in the churches of the aforementioned "Jerusalem".
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 24, 2010 16:09:08 GMT -5
I thought that this forum had matured at least in some regards... looks like it has regressed... talk me some illyrian...
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Post by ngadhnjyesi on Feb 24, 2010 16:28:31 GMT -5
talk me some illyrian... Si je o Ilir qe ke harruar gjuhen e nenes?
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Feb 24, 2010 17:06:30 GMT -5
Another source that says Albanians are Illyrians Link, www.knowledgerush.com/kr/encyclopedia/Ancient_Illyria/THe Albanian transliterations ILIRE (Illyrian) translated to a Free Person. The Name Albania is derived from the Name of an Illyrian Tribe called the Alban or Arbereshe and later Albanoi (Mysjans=MYSUS) that Lived near Durres City around areas Rodon Cape, Ishem, KURATEN and Kruja.
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Post by redbaron on Feb 24, 2010 19:21:44 GMT -5
I thought that this forum had matured at least in some regards... looks like it has regressed... talk me some illyrian... Don't set up yourself like this man?Change your mind before we start talking some serious illyrian to you? If you know what i mean.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Feb 24, 2010 20:32:04 GMT -5
THe Albanian transliterations ILIRE (Illyrian) translated to a Free Person. The Name Albania is derived from the Name of an Illyrian Tribe called the Alban or Arbereshe, Arber and later Albanoi (Mysjans=MYSUS) that Lived near Durres City around areas Rodon Cape, Ishem, KURATEN, Kruja and other close teritories. Take a Look the Map and areas that My fellow Arber Mysjans (Misians) still living for very long time. www.fallingrain.com/world/AL/42/Kuraten.html In albanian KURATEN means Cure Of God! KUR+ATEN KURA=CURE ATEN= FATHER (GOD) As I Said It All GREATS Started In Albania. I speak Albanian and I'm Proud that I Am from Albania. Truly Myself, Mysia JESUS The Messiah !!!
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 26, 2010 23:31:58 GMT -5
sorry but this is illyrian
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 27, 2010 13:46:12 GMT -5
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 27, 2010 19:31:29 GMT -5
The ancient Greeks live in the ancient Greek world like rich aristocrats and not like you thieves and Pirates ! ;D
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Post by ivo on Apr 6, 2010 0:33:03 GMT -5
Ajax, Albanians don’t feel close to the Turks because they are from Azerbaijan. I think their feelings of closeness are easily explained by the saying ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’.
Now, regarding the Illyrian root of Albanians.. first of all, there are no ethnically uniform nations in Europe. The Balkans are mixed, and all nations and their respective ethnicities are composed of various ethnic groups. Modern Albanians are definitely not Illyrians alone; however, from all the Balkan nations they have the most credible claim to the ancient tribes of the region.
We have countries like Romania, Macedonia, and Greece that base their entire history and existence on some long lost euphoric ideal that they are supposedly the direct descendents of Dacians, Ancient Macedonians, and Ancient Greeks but in doing so, they overlook some 2000+ years of history.
We even have some, misinformed people in Bulgaria who claim that Bulgarians are direct descendents of the Thracians and are purely Thracian. Thankfully, the people who make such claims are very few.
Regarding Romania, sure, they may have some minor percentage of Dacian blood, as Bulgarians have of Thracian blood. The estimates here are 20-30% of Dacian/Thracian blood. With regards to Macedonia, well, their connection to the ancients would be more accurately placed with the Thracians rather than the Ancient Macedonians; after all, modern Macedonians are a result of the same amalgamation of ethnicities as are Bulgarians. Regarding Greece, Greek politics have done a pretty good job at distorting history and molding it into something that it is not. Greece is overlooking the ‘divide and conquer’ strategies of the Roman Empire, they are overlooking the fact that there have been many purposeful population shifts and resettlements, so much so that by the by the time the Roman Empire split into two, Greek was a language only used for commerce mainly in port cities, while the mainland all spoke in Latin and were really re-settled Romans; their exact origin cannot be determined to a single ethnic group. Regardless, this is not really on topic.
As far as I’ve read, the percentage of ancient blood (ie. Illyrian) in modern Albanians is the highest out of all other regional nations that claim some sort of ethnic link to the long lost past. I have not studied this topic anywhere near as extensively as I’ve read about the history of Macedonia/Bulgaria, but it appears that the geography of the regions inhabited by Albanians throughout the Middle Ages was never really sought after by conquering powers. The territories shifted between the Roman Empire, the Bulgarian Empires, the East Roman Empire (Byzantium), and briefly the Serbian Empire, however, the Albanian population remained isolated.
As Albania’s economy improves, it will probably be able to better emphasize this aspect of its history.
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Post by Patrinos on Apr 6, 2010 5:45:49 GMT -5
Well Vardaskis live in places that were not Macedonian inhabited area in ancient times...more correctly Paionians... and the Slavic tribes that established this area in medieval ages are very known...and what language the Thessaloniceans who defended their country against the progenitors of today Vardaskis is very well known also...
Greeks are the only balkan nation that have an INDISPUTABLE LINGUISTIC CONTINUOUSNESS...so regardless what any balkanoid says... omiloumen tin idia glossa!
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Post by bosna505 on Apr 6, 2010 10:26:54 GMT -5
Its end of all Propagandas, Fantasys, Dreams, Steelings and Lies.
Its 100% Fact that Bosnians are descendants of Illyrians and Bosnia the real Nativ Heart of all Illyrian.
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Post by dusko1 on May 24, 2010 14:07:52 GMT -5
Its end of all Propagandas, Fantasys, Dreams, Steelings and Lies. Its 100% Fact that Bosnians are descendants of Illyrians and Bosnia the real Nativ Heart of all Illyrian. You need professional help to get off the drugs you're taking.
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