The Bulgar.

[Novi Pazar]

"Because last I checked no one in the scientific circles disputes the inscription."

Whats really embarressing is that there is an inscription that SOFIA acknowledged was a FAKE.

[ioan]

Apr 8, 2010 8:39:17 GMT -5 Novi Pazar said:

"Because last I checked no one in the scientific circles disputes the inscription."

Whats really embarressing is that there is an inscription that SOFIA acknowledged was a FAKE.

But NOT the Bitola inscription, no one doubts it, even Serbia.

[ivo]

No idiot, l'm taking about Bulgarska. Serbia was stimulus for them when they were still under the Ottoman yoke. Besides, your people used an EXARCHATE in vardar (fyrom) to Bulgarianise the Serbian population.

Pazar, enough with the Serb propaganda crap. Seriously, people don’t take you seriously man. You are embarrassing yourself, you’re a joke.

Kosovo is Bulgarian, Vardar is Bulgarian, Nish, Vranje, Pirot, Novi Pazar are all considered Bulgarian territory

Look, all I’m saying is that if we look at the facts and we take into consideration that Serbia claims Kosova as ‘The Heart of Serbia’.. well then, Bulgaria has a much more credible claim on all of modern day Eastern Serbia. I’m not even going to discuss Vardar Macedonia as we all know how the world outside of Serbia sees things.

O.k then show us your sources.

What would be the point of that!? Hell, you don’t even read your own sources, let alone mine. Remember the time when you were quoting Brailsford in an attempt to prove that Macedonians were Serbs, yet Brailsford’s conclusions clearly state that Macedonians were NEVER Serbs, and he agrees with the Bulgarian perspective.

claiming half of serbia as thou its a given right.

Not really, but the fact that Torlaks identified with Bulgaria more so than they did with Serbia up until recently is well documented. Hell your grammar is much closer to Bulgarian than Serbian, and physically, Torlaks resemble Bulgarians more so than they do Serbs.

In your world of fantasy a serb has no right to defend himself otherwise its racism, classic liberal crap talk.

I’ll tell you what’s classic, your statement above. It’s yet another pity statement along the lines of ‘oooh poor Serbs, no one likes us, there’s a global conspiracy against us blah blah blah’. I’ve said this before Serbs are not the victims, and in order for Serbia to be able to enjoy a brighter future, your government needs to change its politics and actually start owning up to the misdeeds of their past actions. The Srebrenica apology last month was a yet another step in the right direction.

A serbian source told me that the Bulgars fabricated a stone inscription back in the 19th century which Sofia even rejected later, is this true Asen?

There may have been people attempting to get publicity, or most likely money, but if it was fake and rejected than it’s all good. Hell, accepted or rejected it wouldn’t change the fact that practically all independent sources concur on the Bulgarian identity of Macedonians some 50-60 years ago.

Get lost idiot, your the one with the expansionist agenda. My sources are not the result of THE TURKISH BACKED BULGARIAN EXARCHATE.

Sweetheart, you’re delusional. How many Bulgarian sources have we posted so far? How many non-Bulgarian sources have we posted so far? You are an architect, you should be able to do simple math.

BS, don't talk rubbish, l doubt even one second you cared. It goes back to my point, a serb is not allowed to speak the truth, his only allowed to accept hate from his neighbours.

Surprise surprise. Self pity, yet again. Poor Serbs, they are so innocent and pure.. they just don’t seem to be able to catch a break. Tsk tsk.

I won't accept this because history must be told and l don't give a rats a$$ because the way Bulgarian propaganda is set its not very *friendly* towards the serbs.

Not true at all. Bulgarian politics are very Serbian friendly. Past Serb aggressions and anti-Bulgarian movements are purposefully not popularized for the sake of good relations. Yet, I’ve come across several Serbs who still get that look in their eye when they talk about Bulgarians, especially those in the Western Outlands. I’d imagine that the idiot that started this post is exactly the same, talking about ‘Bulgarians are in need of genocide’, or ‘the only good Bulgar is a dead Bulgar’. To that; all I have to say is that what goes around comes around, and the Serbian country just recently started paying for its past sins. Kosova will be Kosova, and if Serbia is capable of using its political brain, they’ll take note of this and use it as a lesson to change their excessive ultra-nationalist politics that are heavily influenced by hate for other ethnic groups.

X2, when they have a dose of their warped history full of contradictions they arn't nice at all.

This history is supported by a wide variety of independent sources, especially regarding Macedonia. Our “Slavic Orthodox Brothers” the Serbs have had an anti-Bulgarian agenda for many decades. Bulgarians are generally a forgiving people, but when you go out denying history and making out Serbs to be some sort of angels of purity it’s just inaccurate and provocative; especially, given the fact that out of all Balkan countries, Serbia has the most blood on its hands.

Don't worry Pyrro because of us some have seen the contradictions and lies they spill here, their propaganda has many holes and their claims are so crazy that in the beginning l found it entertaining but today their obession is really a sad mental disorder.

Watch the replies l may get from this post

…

However, wherever i look in public forums, here, youtube, wikipedia, anywhere, i didn't find not even one friendly Bulgarian.

That’s because most of the people in the online space that discuss topics such as these are well of aware of our history and the misdeeds Serbia’s past government have done.

However they focus on speed, pace and volume of their work instead of focusing on the quality of their work(their work=falsifications/fabrications/etc..).

False again. The quality of the works we post is very reputable, most of our sources are American, German, British, French, Italian, and Russian. We can’t help it that there’s a high volume of them, but as I’ve already mentioned, practically all independent sources agree with the Bulgarian point of view.

We have seen the Bitola inscription MEGA-fiasco, the Kuber inscription fiasco, yet those brainless soldiers, will go on with their poem, saturating the internet with their idiocy, hoping that some great power will find some use out of it.

There was one inscription that was rejected by the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences. The ones that have been accepted are accurate.

So, i guess we have two types of Bulgarians

There’s only one type of Bulgarians. We are all the same. The ones that express dislike towards Serbs are just better acquainted with our history, that’s all.

^ what makes me laugh as well is that the Bulgari speak of serbia and horrors what about them in 1989 and the cleansing of 400,000 Turks in 1989.

This is somewhat true, and is probably the only black mark in Bulgarian history. Our government attempted to forcefully assimilate the Bulgarian Turks, but it wasn’t mass murder. It was mainly name changing on passports, and those who didn’t comply were exiled to Turkey. However, the one of the important things to remember is that a few years later when this policy was halted, most of the exiled Turks willingly returned to Bulgaria.

You on the white side, and all the rest on the black one.

Yup, that’s the problem.. that’s how he sees things, and unfortunately most Serbs here share the same view. They cannot accept that Serbs could have ever been at fault, for anything.

[rusebg]

So, What were you doing in Serbia in 1999?

Where did I say it was 1999?! It was in the preceeding years, during the Yugoslavia wars.

Do you want to know something idiot, l even sent money to my cousin back in 1999 because she became a widow and the woman had two young daughters to feed.

For the purpose of keeping some attitude toward you as a human being, I will try to forget this as soon as possible. Especially the word 'even'. Is this the ultimate sacrifice you are capable of? Sending a few bucks to a woman of your blood in a deep trouble and mentioning it with such pride?! My, my, my...

[Kefalus]

Stop this propaganda against bulgarians.

[ioan]

I hope thats not irony my Greko-Romanian friend. If its not, thanks

[Kefalus]

It's not.
They simply dont have anything better to do.

[Novi Pazar]

"Pazar, enough with the Serb propaganda crap. Seriously, people don’t take you seriously man. You are embarrassing yourself, you’re a joke."

So its propaganda?, was there an Exarchate or not?. You three are the embarressing ones.


"Look, all I’m saying is that if we look at the facts and we take into consideration that Serbia claims Kosova as ‘The Heart of Serbia’.. well then, Bulgaria has a much more credible claim on all of modern day Eastern Serbia. I’m not even going to discuss Vardar Macedonia as we all know how the world outside of Serbia sees things."

Wrong, again there is no substance to your arguement. Serbia infact has more claims to Western Bulgaria, take for example topoymns there or even the Vidovden celebrations etc....

"Not really, but the fact that Torlaks identified with Bulgaria more so than they did with Serbia up until recently is well documented. Hell your grammar is much closer to Bulgarian than Serbian, and physically, Torlaks resemble Bulgarians more so than they do Serbs."

No its not, Torlakian and Shopski have been proven to be Serbian dialects (contain west balkanic declensions), besides, you cannot base it on language, you base it on history

"I’ll tell you what’s classic, your statement above. It’s yet another pity statement along the lines of ‘oooh poor Serbs, no one likes us, there’s a global conspiracy against us blah blah blah’. I’ve said this before Serbs are not the victims, and in order for Serbia to be able to enjoy a brighter future, your government needs to change its politics and actually start owning up to the misdeeds of their past actions. The Srebrenica apology last month was a yet another step in the right direction."

Do you know anything about Srebrenica?, l bet you don't.

"There was one inscription that was rejected by the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences. The ones that have been accepted are accurate."

Just like you three clowns claiming that the Bulgars are the MOST pure indo-europeans, what an embarressment.

[Novi Pazar]

"For the purpose of keeping some attitude toward you as a human being, I will try to forget this as soon as possible. Especially the word 'even'. Is this the ultimate sacrifice you are capable of? Sending a few bucks to a woman of your blood in a deep trouble and mentioning it with such pride?! My, my, my..."

Your such an inconsiderate bastar.d, thats o.k Ruse, no wonder why your divorsed and woman run away from you. You've got a problem and its inside your head!.

[ivo]

Heh, Pazar, you've dilluted your mind with pro-Serb materials alone that have no objectivity or crediblity whatsoever. As I've already told you, go out pick up at least 10 books and read.

Your such an inconsiderate bastar.d, thats o.k Ruse, no wonder why your divorsed and woman run away from you. You've got a problem and its inside your head!.

Oh please, Gyrro is the only one that is more mentally unstable than you. You hold a firm second, so you are in no place to talk about what's in anyone elses head. And you are an idiot.

[MiG]

Isn't this getting a little out of hand? This is way too much you guys.

[Kralj Vatra]

Apr 8, 2010 20:05:56 GMT -5 ivo said:

Heh, Pazar, you've dilluted your mind with pro-Serb materials alone that have no objectivity or crediblity whatsoever. As I've already told you, go out pick up at least 10 books and read.

As Nietzsche said, reading a book early in the morning is the worse thing one man can do to his brain.
(and he didn't mean math or engineering, he meant the kind of ready-made-for-consumption garbage that you are reading)

[Novi Pazar]

"Heh, Pazar, you've dilluted your mind with pro-Serb materials alone that have no objectivity or crediblity whatsoever. As I've already told you, go out pick up at least 10 books and read."

I've read over 200 books on vardar, so what l tell you here is not Bulgarian propaganda but from objective western sources.