Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 21, 2010 23:02:53 GMT -5
Sorry. But I still have a strong innate hatred for Southern Slavs ( mainly Macedonians and Serbs and some Montenegrins.) Even if I found out tomorrow that I'm of Slavic stock, I would still dislike those groups all the same. I'm indifferent towards Turks, Bulgarians, Bosnians and Croatians, but I do tend to view them more in a positive light. I only dislike the Turks in Macedonia.... The only group I've grown to dislike are the Greeks. They used to be in my indifferent list, but as time passes, I dislike them more and more to the point my stomach churns as I pass by a Greek Orthodox church.... pure lunacy.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 21, 2010 23:08:48 GMT -5
Asen, read 2 posts above.... guys really get a life. It is sad... Asen, forget about Novi, go out, eat some cevapce, drink some Sumenska "Bira", go after some nice chick, get married, you know that kind of stuff, the good things in life.... Hating Novi and me, will not fill your refrigerator you know...
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 22, 2010 2:11:29 GMT -5
"do you think of Novi 24x7 non-stop or smth? get a life dude, (a new wife, a couple of kids, you know)"
I wonder the same Pyrro. Asen again says above that Serbs are whinging?...well wouldn't the Bulgari also?, l think they would be 10X worse than Serbs if they had half of our problems.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 22, 2010 2:59:29 GMT -5
^^^ That's true Novi. However, i dont think that they are substantially different than the people in ex-YU. In Sofia, speaking .... the simple .... serbian that i know, could get my way through very easily... ;D
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 22, 2010 3:03:04 GMT -5
^ Yes the simple ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 22, 2010 3:09:52 GMT -5
as a matter of fact, i am happy that i didn't wake up one morning with a Bulgarian passport waiting for me at the hotel reception You know, Greek from some former imaginary ex-greater-bulgarian province, speaking simple "Bulgarian"... hmmm... a perfect match for a perfect Bulgarian... ;D
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Post by Kastorianos on Apr 22, 2010 3:15:43 GMT -5
of course.
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Post by ivo on Apr 22, 2010 8:27:13 GMT -5
Here we are again. Stop complaining, stop portraying your people as some sort of victims of a worldwide anti-Serb conspiracy. It's rather pathetic.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 22, 2010 8:49:11 GMT -5
Here we are again. Stop complaining, stop portraying your people as some sort of victims of a worldwide anti-Serb conspiracy. It's rather pathetic. on the other hand, i'd like you to tell me how Bulgaria would perform in 1) an exhausting war of THREE years long, against half of our planet (the stronger half to be precise) subjected to embargoes, sanctions, international hostility 2) an ultra devastating war of 3 months, against the whole world again, + the most severe hostile treatment by the western world (no no no of course IT WAS NOT CONSPIRACY!!! some day, 10-12 leaders woke up, drunk their coffee INDEPENDENTLY one from the other, and ALL OF A SUDDEN the same day started to bomb Serbia for no particular reason!!! ) NO CONSPIRACY, IT CAME SPONTANEOUSLY ! Now, as you know, Serbia has the same standards of living as Bulgaria.... I would like your take on this... Lets hope ex-YU was still together, while Bulgaria fighting the whole world for some 20 years.... since 1991..... HOW MANY LIGHT-YEARS would the economy of the two countries be apart? just think of it boy.... PS needless to say, your anti-Serbian obsession reaches the limits of certain disorder. Not even muslims/bosnians or croats were happy seeing what was being done in 1999... BUT for ASEN things are different... Asen it seems enjoys other nation's suffering.... i wander why.... some pshyhiatrist (cyco doctor) could shed some light into this...
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Post by rusebg on Apr 22, 2010 9:28:34 GMT -5
It is interesting to see how pyrro tries to present the stupidity of an idiot leader like Miloshevic as an example of how great a country is. For your info, Pyrro, we suffered through three national catastrophies in the 20th century, all of them much worse than what Serbia got through. We survived somehow. And it is really exhausting to answer your hypothetical questions.
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Post by ljubotan on Apr 22, 2010 9:38:52 GMT -5
Man you've got some serious hate bro! All balkan people would do that to you, even if you went through an airport in Tirana; you're own Albanian brother would rip you off via 'carina'.
No one is disagreeing Albanians were treated 'bad' at times during Yugoslav period; however, should I wish you 'dead' because Kosovar Albanians use to poison Serbian water wells, rape girls on their way to school, beat up children, etc during the 70's and 80's? You need to look at what your people did first and admit w/in yourself it was wrong before you point the finger at us!!
Where are you from in the states? Assuming you're from Macedonia, you probably live in Illinois and from Kicevo or Struga? You don't have to like anyone but 'hate' is a strong word and a waste of energy on your part. Place that energy into more positive thoughts and you'll be a better person.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 22, 2010 11:15:03 GMT -5
Please bring some real statistics and reports for the above. I have already owned one of your Slavkas on the rape claim, please bring some real police reports or statistics on the other crap before you make a claim. I know you Slavs have a hard time understanding things, but in the western world one needs some evidence before he rushes to claims. And not Serbian media either, real third party statistics.
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Post by donnie on Apr 22, 2010 13:38:00 GMT -5
They repeat these lies hoping that enough repetition will make them true in peoples' eyes. As you guys have shown, and as I've shown too in earlier debates, there is no evidence to support the alleged systematic rapes of Serbian girls and women during the '80s. Infact, the only nation to have organized such terror in the Balkans in modern history, are the Serbs, who with their rape camps actively violated tens of thousands Albanians and Bosnians in a strategy of demoralization.
Same goes with poisoning. Poisoning did occur in Kosova, but it was the Serbs who poisoned Albanian children, using segregation of children in schools to avoid Serb victims;
Serbs have this cleaver habit of accusing others of their own doings !!!
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Post by donnie on Apr 22, 2010 13:42:33 GMT -5
As for similiarities and finding common ground; I have nothing against Croats, Bosnians, Bulgarians, Romanians & Turks. Of the Turks, I only have a strong dislike for those in Kosova, otherwise it's OK. With the Serbs, well, no reason to dwelve there, there are tens of thousands of reasons to dislike them and this will not change from my side. With the Greeks, the dislike is not as strong as with Serbs, but their attitude at times makes distinction difficult. Oh, and FYROMaks too, my experience with them has been exclusively negative. Ive been there twice, in FYROM, and both times officials, esp. the police, acted like first class cvnts.
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Post by ivo on Apr 22, 2010 14:08:39 GMT -5
Why's that Donnie? How are they different?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 22, 2010 14:55:52 GMT -5
It is interesting to see how pyrro tries to present the stupidity of an idiot leader like Miloshevic as an example of how great a country is. For your info, Pyrro, we suffered through three national catastrophies in the 20th century, all of them much worse than what Serbia got through. We survived somehow. And it is really exhausting to answer your hypothetical questions. zzzzzzzzzzzz hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr its amazing how stupid all those "milosevic"-related experts are... dude you sound like a sad grammophone.... get some inner info or shut up, you sound ridiculous... PS what's the 3rd bulgarian catastrophe? (dont tell me the communism, cause i am gonna get a real hard laugh at it)
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Post by ljubotan on Apr 22, 2010 15:49:35 GMT -5
i have met women here in the states that spoke about being raped. Police didn't do crap because you guys abused your power in the times of having autonomy, hence why it was taken away! When a dog doesn't listen you've got to put it back in its cage!
I don't have hate towards you guys; I've actually met some descent Albanians. I too like yourself prefer to keep my distance but I apply no emotional hate towards your ethnicity.
The fighting is over now trust will need to overcome the 'hatred', but won't happen for another generation. Then you'll see Albanians marrying Serbs/Macedonians regardless of history and religion. As the generations become more westnerized young men will care less to have a two headed chicken tattoed on their shoulders. I wouldn't like any of our girls getting around with you guys, but I'm sure it already happens and maybe intermiggling will need to occur on both sides before any true peace remains in the south of the balkans.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 22, 2010 16:49:31 GMT -5
Blah blah blah. And then Aadmin expects us to unite. Again, please bring statistics. I dont care about the whinney stories you Slavs concoct. Children lie all the time. Please bring statistics and references by international organizations. Fact is that Shejtan brought statistics of rape done by a Serb. Ten years back there was an intensive propaganda in the Serb media about the rape of Serb women in Kosovo by Albanian men. In 1990, an independent committee of Serbian lawyers and human rights experts carried out a study to verify these allegations. On analysing all the statistics on rape and attempted rape for the 1980s, they found that the frequency of the crime was significantly lower in Kosovo than in other parts of Yugoslavia. While inner Serbia, on an average, had 2.43 cases per year for every 10,000 men in the population, the figure in Kosovo was 0.96. Their findings also negated the allegations of wide scale rape of Serb women in Kosovo. mailer.fsu.edu/~whmoore/garnet-whmoore/JillianWeise.pdfThe real rapists in Kosova were the Slav Serbs. Rape is a common weapon you subhumans use to degrade others. The actual rate of rapes from Albanians was marginal. Tell the kurvas you met with to fix their stories, getting drunk and getting fuked by an Albo at a club doesnt count as rape, its just fuking a kurva. I can guarantee you it will take over 15 generations for Albs of Macedonia to accept marriage with Slavko-rats like you. I know Albanians of Macedonia, they are more anti-Slavic than anything you could imagine. Even when they can speak you language they deny it. They dont want anything to do with you rats, they dont want to even share a seat in your kafenes. Albanians are far from needing to overcome, the fighting is not over in FYROM but its just stopped. Albanians have no intention of giving in to the Slav mongrel.
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Post by logjiktek on Apr 22, 2010 16:50:20 GMT -5
Man you've got some serious hate bro! All balkan people would do that to you, even if you went through an airport in Tirana; you're own Albanian brother would rip you off via 'carina'. No one is disagreeing Albanians were treated 'bad' at times during Yugoslav period; however, should I wish you 'dead' because Kosovar Albanians use to poison Serbian water wells, rape girls on their way to school, beat up children, etc during the 70's and 80's? You need to look at what your people did first and admit w/in yourself it was wrong before you point the finger at us!! Where are you from in the states? Assuming you're from Macedonia, you probably live in Illinois and from Kicevo or Struga? You don't have to like anyone but 'hate' is a strong word and a waste of energy on your part. Place that energy into more positive thoughts and you'll be a better person. I'm not even speaking of "Yugoslav" era, because quite frankly I visited Former Yugoslav Republic, and I saw how I was treated. I saw the savage look of the Mak police officer as he would open my bag and look to find a way to scam me. I saw the look of the police officer as he would tell me and my friends to go back to our houses because it was getting dark outside. I know quite well your kind because I've visited FYROM more than 10+ times in my lifetime and I was born there. I don't mention the Yugoslav era because I was too young to remember it. The majority of my childhood memories during the Summer are from FYROM. I know the place better than some Australian Mako that reads about Macedonia on the web and has visited the place 2-3 times in their whole lifetime. Secondly, I don't wish death upon them. I don't even wish death upon anyone! Maybe "hate" was a bit of a hyperbole, but I strongly dislike Serbs and Macedonians. I don't think this feeling will ever change, and I believe the feeling is mutual. I used to get a kick when I told the Makos "Ne razbiram Bulgarski" or however the fck you say it. PS: Read my location and you will know where I'm from. Don't live in Illinois though...
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Post by ljubotan on Apr 22, 2010 17:26:52 GMT -5
Okay, so you're from Kicevo. Funny you mentioned, I met a couple Albo's here a few wks back from Kicevo; one spoke Mak the other claimed he didn't speak. No hard feelings, as I'm glad my family doesn't know Albanian, although it would have been very advantageous.
I've been to Tetovo many many times in my life, and its quite disgusting to say the least. I definitely wish my family village home was on the other side of Macedonia, so i could go and enjoy the scenery w/out seeing all the mosques.
As far as being treated like that, I myself have been ripped off by people at the airport, police officers, etc while on vacation there. Well, just remember should you and the Kosovars and Albanians from Albania ever have a full fledged war on the minority in NW Macedonia - remember this, think about what will happen to your brothers in Bitola/Struge; but more importantly do not think for a minute Bulgaria nor Serbia would not come.
I may be in a fight with my brother, but should you go touch him I would find you and take you out! That same analogy is applied to us Orthodox brothers.
Take care and wish you all the best in the next round, whenever it resumes.....
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