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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 15:45:14 GMT -5
And again, whether its your or Del Ponte... there is a reason why Del Ponte's allegations never went anywhere, because they were based off of the language I showed above "probably", "most likely" or whatever, is not language that will ever reach courtrooms for a very good reason. Unlike in Russia, in the west people do not make allegations on hearsay... which is what Del Ponte relied on.
Btw, I dont know what translation you have... but the English translation of the book does not go up to 450... its last appendix, C is on page 393 and Notes are on 407.
The original Italian work also only goes up to 412...
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 16:27:42 GMT -5
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 16:29:26 GMT -5
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 16:30:48 GMT -5
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 16:44:32 GMT -5
Please, have mercy on her. Your Albanian standards are too high for ordinary people to archieve... Will you open master-class where you could teach people how to write books and how to be prosecuters?
One more question to you - is that link you provided (conserning rape statistics) up to your high Albanian sientific standard? So that I could learn how to follow the best examples.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 17:18:37 GMT -5
What chapter does for 450 fall on? I dont understand Russian, as General Patton once said: I have difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinese or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks.
Svetlana, that was a statistical study. No based on "probably" or "I think" but purely on what was presented by the evidence brought forth. Im sorry you dont understand the language of such a science, the Asiatic admixture may prevent you from seeing it. The people in the rape study did not say "I think" or "probably" but said "based on the evidence presented...."
Carla's allegations went nowhere. That is not me speaking, it was the ICTY speaking. Why? Because the ICTY judged the info in Carla's book to be hearsay and therefore rejected it. They were rejected precisely because of the language of Carla within the book...
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 17:32:43 GMT -5
Unfortunatelly Albanians like you are low lives and only deserve to be killed
Do you know what statistics is?
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 17:36:51 GMT -5
Do you consist of smuggled organs? Smuggled brains, I guess?
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 17:41:45 GMT -5
Take it up with General Paton (may he rest in peace). The facts are clear, in the 80s claims were made that there was an organized movement to exterminate Serbs of Kosova, that was concoted by an aggressive power-hungry Milosevic in order to pursue the aggression in Kosova. The studies, done by Serb lawyers and international bodies. They studied reality, not "could haves" or "probably" but simply what was present based on legitimate information. Sorry, but that to me is real science not hearsay. Which is why the organ trade claim has fallen apart. But you can continue with your beliefs. I can no more predict the mind of an untermenschin than I can predict the a game or roulette.
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 17:55:02 GMT -5
What is legitimate information? All reality is actually probality (which could be 99.99% or 70% or 20% or 0.001%), it is not up to us to know anything for sure.
You always remind me the post of one peacekeeper in Kosovo who wrote "the only Kosovo problem is that it is full of Kosovo Albanians"
Sorry your smuggled brain doesn't work. Or they inserted something else instead of brain.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 18:06:35 GMT -5
The probability is insignificant at that level since the very number of rapes, far far lower than Serbia central, is already negligibly small.
On this level, legitimate information is info based on no prior pre-suppositions and grounded on real hard facts, not probability or "likelihood"... pure and simple mathematical evidence, just what Carla was lacking in her book and what you are lacking in the claims against us.
Again, bring some real cases of kurva rape percentages.
One peacekeeper of many. You remind of what Paton wrote, but already far far more renown Ahtisaari: Serbs are guilty as a people.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 25, 2010 18:23:38 GMT -5
I think a good move would be, when you ask a Turk where they are from, if they answer Istanbul or Ankara, probe further... originally where are they from?
I mean, people from Yozgat, Kutahya, the whole South East, Kayseri, Konya, and surrounding areas have a pretty bad rep for being 'villigar mentality' in Turkey. No matter how rich they are you can't take the vilage out of the villager.
An example is, I am from Adana on my dad's side. From the City, we don't have a village we can trace back to, a true deep rooted Adana family. From centra Adana. I have met in London maybe 50 people who said they are from Adana, when I probed, I found they are from the surrounding villages or immigrants from the SE.
There is a huge difference between their families and mine. I real basic example is when I used to go out clubbing, my friends Turkish friends weren't even allowed to have male friends. I could put on the skimpiest outfit and say 'dad, what do u think?' and he would always answer, you look amazing, woah, very sexy.. have a good time, heres some money, don't put your drink down LOL. My Turk friends would all stay at my house to go out clubbing because their parents would go nuts if they found out!!
Difference: My dad grew up with a proper modern relaxed culture, my 80 yearold grandad god rest his soul. Would offer us Raki, even tho he prayed 5 times a day, My gran would tell us to find handsome cultured, educated guys to date and not some villagers. Whereas even in Turkey I come across villagers iving village style in Ankara, they have to be home living with their parents even though they are like 25!, I moved out when I was about 22, I haven't lived properly with my parents for 8 years! Whereas Im thinking, hmm did I pay the elec bill, these kids are thinking, look at that girls boots they are so ugly,I should call dad to send me some money etc... I had more freedom than Turkish guys my age, why because my family immediatly integrated into UK society, had loads of foreign and Brit mates, worked with Engish companies etc...
These peope that just move to the US to study, they are from vilage families.
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 18:25:25 GMT -5
Have you read comments I posted on those your statistics? They were written by people with real brain, not smuggled one.
According to your statistics Canada is much much more dangerous than Albania, Georgia, Azerbajan, etc. Do you believe in it?
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Post by aayy on Apr 25, 2010 18:38:37 GMT -5
One more time - in some cultures people are afraid of giving pure and simple mathematical evidence, so you can't compare statistics in countries/regions belonging to different cultures.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 25, 2010 19:18:05 GMT -5
This is not the same issue. I was talking about the claim that Serbian women were rapes by Albanians in Kosova and later studies that showed that such rapes of kurva were never on the level proposed by the propaganda. Different issue.
Also, I believe that the streets of Toronto, where you have a plethora of immigrants and ethnicities, could on various occasions be more dangerous than areas of the Balkans. Samething with most other cities around Europe. I feel far more safe traveling the Balkans than being in numerous cities around the world. There was actually an article on just this that Radovic posted a long time ago.
many of them have their origins from Rum Turks: Macedonia, Bulgaria. Others I know are from western parts and very much look so. I know of only a few Turks in the school who come from the east and very much look it. They are darker on the whole. the rest I know come from Ankara, Antalya, Bursa, Izmir and Istanbul.
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Post by aayy on Apr 26, 2010 3:02:14 GMT -5
This is the same issue. You provided "studies" which "prove" that Canada is more dangerous than Albania (in general, not occasionally). It shows the true value of your "studies". After that conclusion (about Canada) one can realize that all the other results of your "studies" are of the same quality.
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Post by Anittas on Apr 26, 2010 7:23:22 GMT -5
What does "mutually related" mean?
This is Yugo propaganda. I'm sorry your Yugo federation fell (not!), but if you guys were really comfortable living with each other, no one could've divided you.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 26, 2010 7:42:08 GMT -5
What does "mutually related" mean? This is Yugo propaganda. I'm sorry your Yugo federation fell (not!), but if you guys were really comfortable living with each other, no one could've divided you. thats BS, since the relations/commerce/tourism among ex-YU republics is almost like it used to be (it still highly feels like it is still one country). Only things that changed are currency and borders. (oh and some nationalistic extremism of course, designed/orchestrated/fueled/implemented by the west. Anittas, if you think that the war started in 1991, you are delusional. If the Yugoslavs were granted the commercial channels to export their products, of course Yugoslavia would still exist. Thing is, the west (yes, THEM, who caused half of Romanian women to seel their ass for 30 euros) started isolating republic by republic, LONG BEFORE THE FIRST SHOT was fired.... Feel free to ask questions, if you didnt understand smth..
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Post by donnie on Apr 26, 2010 7:49:07 GMT -5
What does "mutually related" mean? ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 26, 2010 8:11:22 GMT -5
mutually related means that the exchange was two-way. AKA duplex (in communication theory).
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