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Post by macmako on Jul 17, 2010 8:18:43 GMT -5
From the comments I read, it seems that it is NOT a Turkification of Karagiozis by UNESCO. I do not even think there is such a word as "Turkification". LOL
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 17, 2010 9:43:32 GMT -5
There is no such word as Turkification...Scarification is more of what happened..
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 17, 2010 9:44:07 GMT -5
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Post by hellboy87 on Jul 17, 2010 20:38:49 GMT -5
You have dark eyes, dark hair and dark skin. And no, not like Sean Connery. Nah.He is not dark.I've seen a picture of him and he has pale skin,the colour that Asiatics die to have. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 18, 2010 9:11:50 GMT -5
what does karagoz mean in Greek?
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Post by Kanaris on Jul 18, 2010 9:34:46 GMT -5
what does karamanli mean in Greek? ;D
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Post by hellboy87 on Jul 19, 2010 11:17:44 GMT -5
lol!
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Jul 19, 2010 18:07:37 GMT -5
come on, what does kara goz mean in Greek, how are you going to defend the fact that your national puppet (so tedious and insignificant in reality) has a Turkish name.
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Post by bato2 on Jul 20, 2010 7:26:51 GMT -5
Tho i hate Crapy-pedia(Wiki)...I never use it as a reference but this time may be useful ;D
Some believe the Turks were influenced by the Gypsies who came from India, while others claim that they were influenced by the Chinese at the time when the Turks were still nomadic tribes, still others argue for a Mediterranean origin in the Egyptian shadow puppet tradition. Whatever the case, it is worthwhile to mention that regardless of religious restrictions, shadow theater became more widespread around the 16th century among the Muslim Turks.
Originally, his popular appeal was his scatological language and protruding phallus. It is still performed in Turkey, especially during Ramadan celebrations, under the same name.
Karagiozis seems to have come to mainland Greece, probably from Asia Minor (Anatolia) at the 19th century, during Ottoman rule. Karagiozis was hellenized in Patras, Greece in the end of 19th century by Dimitrios Sardounis alias Mimaros, who is considered the founder of modern Greek shadow theater.
The genre became a fully integrated, though adapted, amongst the Greek population. But there are several legends as well as studies surrounding Karagiozis's arrival and subsequent popularity in Greece. Some stories say that Greek merchants brought the art from China and others say that it was a Greek who created the "legend" during Ottoman rule for the entertainment of the sultan. Yet others believe that it originated from real events involving two masonry workers named Karagöz and Haci Ivat working in the construction of a mosque in the city of Bursa, Turkey in early 14th century.
Perhaps you shuld change the traditional programe and ad some modern caracters and skip the old ones....You know which ones,those BIG fat cats you see everyday on your TV
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Post by bato2 on Jul 20, 2010 7:31:03 GMT -5
Karta time to send the jets, tanks,submarines,comandos to defend Greek pride!! Enough is Enough !!! ;D ![](http://greekmilitary.net/Greek%20%20%20Military%20army%20Hellenic%20front.jpg)
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Post by kartadolofonos on Jul 21, 2010 13:28:24 GMT -5
åëëáò ρε bato2 είσαι"πιο Έλληνας"; και απο τους Ελληνες !!
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