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Post by yeni on Oct 13, 2009 0:26:09 GMT -5
Go back to your ancient homeland why?
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Post by dezboy on Oct 13, 2009 5:30:11 GMT -5
Please tell me what "real Hungarian" history is? Is it the one developed by the Austrians? or is it the oral tradition that Hungarians are descended from Attila?
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Post by yeni on Oct 13, 2009 7:33:40 GMT -5
Please tell me what "real Hungarian" history is? Is it the one developed by the Austrians? or is it the oral tradition that Hungarians are descended from Attila? the Sumerians are not claimed by the Uralic theory or the old Hungarian traditions either, thats for sure.
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Post by dezboy on Oct 13, 2009 15:16:06 GMT -5
Old Hungarian traditions have been handed down for centuries that the Magyar are descended from Attila. This is what I grew up with. The uralic theory was invented by the Austrians to make us feel inferior. The sumerian hypothosis is interesting though, I believe it doesn't claim that we're sumerians, only that we came into contact with sumerian speaking people in the very dim past and that many of their words have survived through us.
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Post by lvl100 on Oct 13, 2009 15:50:05 GMT -5
the Sumerian theory is stupid, we can be proud of our real history we don't need this unscientific bs. True. The sumerian hypothosis is interesting though, What about the Hungarian-Atlantis connection ? I mean there are some serious facts that cant be ignored. The evidence its astonishing. Just compare Arpad with Atlantis statues.
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Post by dezboy on Oct 13, 2009 16:24:03 GMT -5
yes, as interesting as your "linguistic forums, real specialists + hobby passionate linguists made and non-biased members". No one here claims Hungarian-Atlantis connection, your feeble attempts at ridicule have failed. If anything should be laughed at its "Romanian Histography" trying to pass theories and legends off as historic fact is truely ridiculous. Now please, you people should really learn your own origins before making lame statements about anyone elses.
What is it with you romanians? no matter what forum or video I've ever been on, no matter the discussion you people interfere. Have I insulted you in some way? Do you have some sort of inferiority complex? No one asks you here with your snide comments. No wonder everything I ever hear about you are negative.
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Post by wbb on Oct 14, 2009 5:47:07 GMT -5
Bravo Szorostalpu, welcome to Magyarisztan!!! "The land of Magyars" I hope u had enough of Kulfoldi living and stay in Hungary. There's no other home like Hungary.
Ok you mean Iraq? fuk that chit. We dont speak arabic and we are not arab either and it's a war-zone anyway. Lvl100 maybe u should go back to India where u come from and dont keep ur Indian Panjabi mother waiting for u to have chappathi naan bread and Indian curry cowchit cooked from cowchit. And go and watch some stupid bollywood movies instead.
Neither Romanians are european, Gyurpi bacsi. Romanians are bunch of curry munching people, who can be smelled of curry from a miles away. ;D
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Post by dezboy on Oct 14, 2009 18:01:52 GMT -5
wbb, in ancient times the sumerians were not arabs. Modern Iraqies have nothing in common with the sumerians. Historical evidence provides that they migrated northwest where more than likely they came into contact with our ancient forefathers
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Post by wbb on Oct 15, 2009 6:14:20 GMT -5
Yeah i know, but if going back to Sumeria today that's is part of Arab land and people would become Iraqi arab not sumerian who migrate there.
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Post by lvl100 on Oct 15, 2009 7:58:48 GMT -5
What is it with you romanians? no matter what forum or video I've ever been on, no matter the discussion you people interfere. Have I insulted you in some way? Do you have some sort of inferiority complex? No one asks you here with your snide comments. No wonder everything I ever hear about you are negative. Why are being so defensive ? Dont you understand that we are trying to help you ? IIRC 1 or 2 years ago ( cant find the link but it was all over the news), a panel of American and Japanese scientists published in the famous science journal NatureNews a shocking discovery : Hungarians cant breath too well under water. What in the `70s was overlooked more like a pseudo-scientific prank, now after more than a quarter of century the theory was accepted by the savants. Indeed , after countless experiments of immersing totally in to the water hundreds of Hungarian descent volunteers proved that more than 5 minutes of uninterrupted submersion has negative consequences regarding their health. Now , just think about it , you can use this for your own good. If sometimes in the future , Romania its not happy with Hungary politics ( like Jobbik gaining seats in Parliament) , she will most probably decide to evacuate the Pannonic area and send its inabitants to their places of origin. And on the what is now former Hungarian land, will we use it for growing genetically modified vegetables or maybe just a big reality show where we hoard all pop singers from Europe, let them loose in the vast and wild territory and watch how much they are able to survive being man hunted by angry music lovers with sniper rifles. But, lets not digress. Back to Hungary`s inhabitant evacuation to their original places. If that will happen, both U-F and Sumerian theories are bad for you. Mongolia its a 1.5 mil km2 country and Iraq its full of oil. So no one in internation community will oppose the relocation, considering it more like an upgrade , than breaching of human rights. But if the official historic version its the Hungarian-Atlantis connection , you won. You have science on your side , so you can easily prove that returning to an island sunken 9000 years ago and living on the bottom of the ocean it will have health severe side effects. Like lowering your average "Life expectancy" from 73.44 years to approximately 5-7 minutes. And this is the master plan to fool anyone and remain in Europe. Ingenious , dont you think ?
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Post by dezboy on Oct 15, 2009 15:09:13 GMT -5
I stopped reading after the 2nd sentence, If this your best attempt at wit and sarcasim you've failed miserably. I take it English is not your 1st or 2nd language? I suggest you try something else, perhaps another hobby, whatever that may be.
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Post by dezboy on Oct 15, 2009 15:25:43 GMT -5
wbb who said anything about going anywhere? we're just discussing Hungarian origins. Its interesting looking at all possible hypothisis. The sumerian thing has as much credence as the fin-ugric
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Post by lvl100 on Oct 15, 2009 23:28:31 GMT -5
I take it English is not your 1st or 2nd language? I suggest you try something else, perhaps another hobby, whatever that may be. While I obviously have no reasons to take pride in my English skills , people like you who spell the same word in different way every time they use it and always wrong , should be the last who are bytching about them. Maybe for Jobbik and their fans waiving their little fists to academics to give up on UF theories and adopt the "real" history. And of course for acid trip looking Italian professors sitting under the Hungarian flag.
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Post by wbb on Oct 16, 2009 0:53:23 GMT -5
Lvl100, now u listen to me u gypsy chit for brain, this is getting very serious and provocative. Are u one of those Iron Guard or Nuea Dreapta? cause u sound like one of them. I swear in the name of Allah not Jesus but "Allah the real god" i will jihad against ur precious stinkhole Romania to the ground and kick ur gypsy arse back to India if that what's u and ur fellow romanians want. And think twice before u start calling me racist, the only racist i can see is all the hungarofobia romanians planning to ethnic cleanse more hungarians inside the very core of Hungary. Christian savages have no place in "Muslim balkan", u better migrate to the West with ur stupid american buddy. And be careful, if any hungarian respond because romanians want to ethnic cleanse hungarians in the cause of racism, that is the real Jihad. Hungarians have the right to be anywhere in the world where they want to be. Racist romanians have no match for fundamental hungarians who want to survive...since u cant be off the fundamentalist. Romanians will end up like the Kosova Serbs.
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Post by dezboy on Oct 16, 2009 5:41:00 GMT -5
My poor man, I wasn't referring to your spelling abilities, more of the content. But I suppose under the cicumstances you wouldn't know what a "typo" is. So you're saying that those professors from Oxford and Sorbonne who were and are hypothesizing the sumerian connection are "Jobbik Fans"? You really have alot to learn in more ways than one.
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Post by lvl100 on Oct 16, 2009 9:51:00 GMT -5
But I suppose under the cicumstances you wouldn't know what a "typo" is. Your presumption about my lack of knowledge regarding "typos" has not yet been demonstrated, so we should regarded it as a hipopothesis. Or was it hipholisis ? This reminds me of one of the former members , Averil and her : "Its true, true, true ! because my professor from Pecs University told me so. He is so smart. And a professor. And he knows. At university , you know ? Its a professor."
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Post by dezboy on Oct 17, 2009 8:27:59 GMT -5
Your fixation on the word hypothesis is understandable, try a few more times and I'm sure you'll get it right. I can also understand your distaste for learned professors, relying rather on "hobbysts, forum experts and psuedoscientists. A recent article in Eurozine labled Roumanian historians as "scientific nationalists", so you really have no place to mock anyone else.
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Post by lvl100 on Oct 17, 2009 9:35:58 GMT -5
Your fixation on the word hypothesis is understandable, Of course its understandable. Your repeated massacre of that word was kinda funny. Like many complex topics , unless you have a PhD and a lot of heavy experience in that domain, hobbyst (which already know more than you do) can create a part ( just a part not the whole) of the picture as an intermediate link between "average Joe" and scientists. You know , your silly logical fallacies have even a name. Thats one is called " Appeal to authority" (where it is argued that a statement is correct because the statement is made by a person or source that is commonly regarded as authoritative) And the faulty logic appears when we see that : Hungarian Academy doesnt agree, international community doesn't agree, even Oxford and Sorbonne Universities ( where your scientist(s) are based) dont have it as official policies. But hey , there is 1 or 2 or 3 proffesors there who approve it. So that's must be true !!111111!!1!11 Because they are so smart ! And professors. At university you know ?
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Post by dezboy on Oct 17, 2009 12:31:22 GMT -5
Interchanging one letter is hardly considered a massacre...."hipopothesis. Or was it hipholisis" is a massacre, plus the overall content of your comments. I can understand your displeasure at being called an illiterate, but you only reaffirm what I've been saying all along by your childlike exaggerations. But yes, do continue to believe your hobby enthusiasts and forum linguists if it makes you feel better. We all know what part of the world you're from and the educational system there.
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Post by lvl100 on Oct 18, 2009 4:11:13 GMT -5
Interesting how you avoid the on topic remark about the importance of those professors from my reply and instead you picked offtopic things that suits you better in your silly ad-hominems. And funny enough thats from someone who has like 10 posts bashing other educations and 0 (zero) posts about something useful to the topic. (wishful thinking doesnt count). Thats really educated . And smart. And educated you know ? Oh well, another paprika nationalist.
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