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Post by gtcc1 on Jan 27, 2010 23:33:26 GMT -5
Basilmacedon,
I don't know how much history you have read, but there is an theory held by many historians that ethnically most Macedonians were related to the Illyrians. There is another theory that holds that the Dorians were related to the Illyrians. Also take a look at the Albanian settlements in Greece during the medieval times. And, as I had pointed above on a post above, keep in mind the Albanian character of most of the 'Epiriots'.
Chances are that many more Greeks look like Albanians than vice/versa. There is a good chance that Albanians and Greeks are more similar than different(as compared with other peoples bordering them).
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Post by chalkedon on Jan 28, 2010 4:20:00 GMT -5
Illyrians are of Hellenic stock. Fullstop! If they were not of Hellenic stock... Alexander would have destroy them like he did with everything non Hellenic. He never attack and destroy the lands of non-Hellenic tribes. Small battles lile all city-states had.. yes.. but total war and full disaster ONLY to non-Hellenes.! The only Hellenes who suffered disaster from Alexander were the Thebans and that was due to treason. NEVER a non-Hellene had faced a total disaster from Alexander. Illyrians, althouth a small.. but really anoying tribe (chicken thieves from that time  ) .. was always faced by small mini-wars by the huge state of Macedonia. Never total execution like Persians or Indians etc. Look at their faces ie. Tosks! They have more Greek faces than many "new" Greeks from Black Sea have... Illyrians a Hellenic Stock MUAUAUAUAUAUAUAAU and Alexander is your proofe for this??? Alexander is a Macedonian not Greek and today are Macedonians have most Antic Macedonian DNA not Greeks please stop your Greek Propagandas. Illyrians have nothing same with Greeks or Hellenics ^^^ Another IGENEA scholar... LOL ! |
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Post by bosna505 on Jan 29, 2010 11:50:40 GMT -5
Illyrians a Hellenic Stock MUAUAUAUAUAUAUAAU and Alexander is your proofe for this??? Alexander is a Macedonian not Greek and today are Macedonians have most Antic Macedonian DNA not Greeks please stop your Greek Propagandas. Illyrians have nothing same with Greeks or Hellenics ^^^ Another IGENEA scholar... LOL ! What you have for problems with IGENEA??? In this big DNA Study for Balkan was more than oly IGENEA and they tested peoples in all Balkancitys. And you can see that not only the DNA Institutes say that Bosnians aree Illyrians. in 1991 john wilks ( Wilkes is the foremost LIVING authority on the Illyrians) said that bosnians are of illyrian decend. ten years after ALBANIAN accademics agreed with him: Kaplan Resuli, Fatos Lubonja, Ardian Qosi and Ardian Vebiu also other experts worlwide like: Paul, Hirt, Weigand, Tomashek, Georgiev, Pushcariu and many others. And then we got the genetic facts from Igenea, genograpic and familytreedna. |
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Post by gtcc1 on Jan 29, 2010 17:34:57 GMT -5
Bosna505
Where did you get the idea that Kapllan Resuli is an Albanian and an authority on history? Please!
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Post by Kassandros on Jan 30, 2010 5:54:50 GMT -5
Basilmacedon, I don't know how much history you have read, but there is an theory held by many historians that ethnically most Macedonians were related to the Illyrians. There is another theory that holds that the Dorians were related to the Illyrians. Also take a look at the Albanian settlements in Greece during the medieval times. And, as I had pointed above on a post above, keep in mind the Albanian character of most of the 'Epiriots'. Chances are that many more Greeks look like Albanians than vice/versa. There is a good chance that Albanians and Greeks are more similar than different(as compared with other peoples bordering them). gtcc.. If Illyrians were Dorians.. automatically they were Greeks. Half of Greece is the Dorian tribe. The other half is the Achaian tirbe. This is Greece. Its is like you say.. Illyrians are Orstrogoths or Visgoths. .but they're not Germans! Thats cannot be done. Dorians are the Macedonians, the Epirots, the Spartans and the eastern Cretans. If you try to say that Dorians are not Greeks thus Illyrians are not Greeks.. then we must accept that all the above smaller sub-tribes are not Greeks too. Can we do something like that?  Also, regarding "And, as I had pointed above on a post above, keep in mind the Albanian character of most of the 'Epiriots'.".... why dont you reverse the question.. like... "most of south todays Albanians have that Epirotic character.. appeareance.. .traditions... way of acting/thinking/behaving.... thus... 100% Dorians!!... and all that contrary... to Gjheks! ? |
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Post by gtcc1 on Jan 30, 2010 13:26:09 GMT -5
Basilmacedon,
You are out to negate facts and this attitude is not going to accept any rational opinion. Please deal with facts! Respond to these questions: why the earliest Turkish defters show a preponderance of Albanian names (and I don't mean Muslim names) as property owners in Epirus?; why well known historians have indicated that Dorians, Macedonians were at least part Illyrian?
No, no, I am not saying that Dorians are not Greek. But, I can say that most of the other 'Greeks' were not Dorian, thus different, and this is where Albanians and Greeks connect.
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) .. was always faced by small mini-wars by the huge state of Macedonia. Never total execution like Persians or Indians etc.
