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Vlachs
Dec 14, 2010 3:15:32 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 14, 2010 3:15:32 GMT -5
This thread to serve as a kind of repository for any links,articles,existing threads, references, discourses, concerning Vlachs.
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donnie
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Vlachs
Dec 14, 2010 5:21:43 GMT -5
Post by donnie on Dec 14, 2010 5:21:43 GMT -5
Well, since you mentioned the Vlachs of Bosnia, here's a chapter from Noel Malcolm's book about Bosnia dealing specifically with the Vlachs there and in Hercegovina; www.farsarotul.org/nl16_1.htmI'm particularly interested in the Vlachs of Montenegro ,, and the possible connection some of the mountain clans there might've had to Vlachs, possible Vlach ancestry. Toponyms like Durmitor and Visitor suggests an ancient Vlach presence there.
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Vlachs
Dec 14, 2010 16:08:28 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 14, 2010 16:08:28 GMT -5
Well thank you very much indeed!
I shall enjoy your link to be sure!
të falemnderi!
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Vlachs
Dec 14, 2010 21:40:49 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 14, 2010 21:40:49 GMT -5
donnie,
Just enjoyed your link, I think I must have read snippets from it before.
cheers
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Vlachs
Dec 15, 2010 0:45:25 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 15, 2010 0:45:25 GMT -5
Ευχαριστώ
nice avatar btw
Bobo
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Vlachs
Dec 19, 2010 12:02:51 GMT -5
Post by vlaici on Dec 19, 2010 12:02:51 GMT -5
Glad to meet you, Bobolinkovic. I would like to begin with this link: . Welcome!
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Vlachs
Dec 19, 2010 21:04:15 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 19, 2010 21:04:15 GMT -5
Cheers mate!
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Vlachs
Dec 25, 2010 15:44:35 GMT -5
Post by vlaici on Dec 25, 2010 15:44:35 GMT -5
I post a link with links: www.farsarotul.org/links.htmI hope you might find something new. I am a Romanian, not a Vlach. My interest in Vlachs, apart from the obvious linguistic relation, is that they are, in my opinion, a live testimony of processes undergone in Balkans in the dark ages. The more I read, the less I understand (I am engineer, not historian)! Simple facts keep troubling me: names of national parks in Greece and Montenegro are written in (A)Rumanian: Valia Calda or Durmitor...
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Vlachs
Dec 26, 2010 0:46:08 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 26, 2010 0:46:08 GMT -5
I post a link with links: www.farsarotul.org/links.htmI hope you might find something new. I am a Romanian, not a Vlach. My interest in Vlachs, apart from the obvious linguistic relation, is that they are, in my opinion, a live testimony of processes undergone in Balkans in the dark ages. The more I read, the less I understand (I am engineer, not historian)! Simple facts keep troubling me: names of national parks in Greece and Montenegro are written in (A)Rumanian: Valia Calda or Durmitor... Thanks man! I shall enjoy reading ;D "is that they are, in my opinion, a live testimony of processes undergone in Balkans in the dark ages." interesting statement, I'd love to hear an elaboration Peace!
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Vlachs
Dec 26, 2010 14:55:56 GMT -5
Post by vlaici on Dec 26, 2010 14:55:56 GMT -5
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Vlachs
Dec 28, 2010 9:59:07 GMT -5
Post by vlaici on Dec 28, 2010 9:59:07 GMT -5
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Vlachs
Dec 28, 2010 16:44:42 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 28, 2010 16:44:42 GMT -5
Bravo!
I look forward to reading!
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Vlachs
Dec 28, 2010 16:57:55 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 28, 2010 16:57:55 GMT -5
What would posters estimate the number of Vlachs to be in each of the balkan countries?
Greece, Serbia, Macedonia, Albania...
Because census figures obviously are too low
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Vlachs
Dec 29, 2010 3:28:46 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Dec 29, 2010 3:28:46 GMT -5
Also, is the idea that the majority of "vlachs" in Serbia, are actually once-upon-a-time Romanians correct?
To me this makes sense given:
-eastern serbia's obvious border with Romania
-Romanian emigration to Serbia, esp. in 19th century
-Fact that for great part of its history terms "Romania" and "Romanians" were called by Serbians, Vlaska and Vlasi
Basically, should the "vlachs" of Serbia be viewed as especially distinct from other Vlachs, e.g. Aromanians?
Any thoughts?
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Vlachs
Jan 1, 2011 3:14:43 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Jan 1, 2011 3:14:43 GMT -5
Thanks for article
Bobo
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Vlachs
Jan 1, 2011 12:24:12 GMT -5
Post by vlaici on Jan 1, 2011 12:24:12 GMT -5
Also, is the idea that the majority of "vlachs" in Serbia, are actually once-upon-a-time Romanians correct? I do not think so:
- the so called Vlachs in Serbia who live near the Rumania's border speak the same language as me- they are not Vlachs,
- they have allways been what they are now: a Rumanian minority in Serbia (as the Serbian minority in Rumania),
- the real Vlachs of Serbia should be considered the Cincars
To me this makes sense given: -eastern serbia's obvious border with Romania -with practically no incidents, except the Stalinist period-Romanian emigration to Serbia, esp. in 19th century -I was not aware of it-Fact that for great part of its history terms "Romania" and "Romanians" were called by Serbians, Vlaska and Vlasi- this is the name given by Germans, Slavs and Greeks to latinised populations they encountered, only recently some Romanian Serbs are calling themselves Vlachs. Vlaşca is the name of a region of Rumania.Basically, should the "vlachs" of Serbia be viewed as especially distinct from other Vlachs, e.g. Aromanians?- Cincars are Arumanians (partialy arrived in Serbia after the destruction of Moscopole, end of 18th century), the others belong to the north Danubian linguistic group (Rumanians)Any thoughts? Did you know that one of the most popular folk dance in Rumania is called sârba - srbska? Read more: illyria.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=balkanhaimosbalkans&action=display&thread=32194&page=1#ixzz19niir1iW
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Vlachs
Jan 13, 2011 7:37:44 GMT -5
Post by terroreign on Jan 13, 2011 7:37:44 GMT -5
^Testament to the Sarmatian presence in the Carpatians
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Vlachs
Jan 13, 2011 7:46:44 GMT -5
Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 13, 2011 7:46:44 GMT -5
Sarmatian power!
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Vlachs
Jan 15, 2011 0:17:38 GMT -5
Post by bobolinkovic on Jan 15, 2011 0:17:38 GMT -5
The more I read and reflect, the more convinced I am that Serbs' history is intimately linked with Sarmatians..
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Vlachs
Jan 15, 2011 4:05:45 GMT -5
Post by ulf on Jan 15, 2011 4:05:45 GMT -5
^Testament to the Sarmatian presence in the Carpatians Yeah, sarma as well is testament of Sarmatian presence in Balkans
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