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Post by terroreign on Jan 24, 2011 1:51:23 GMT -5
According to this Bulgarian would be French. Italian. The direct descedant of Old Bulgarian. Serbian is Spanish - inderect descedant of Old Bulgarian. "Old Bulgarian" isn't proto-slavic, it's just the dialect of the Thesaloniki region. Russian/Ukrainian is closer to proto-slavic than "Old Bulgarian" is.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2011 3:04:08 GMT -5
Isn't it more likely that the Bosniak name Abdic stems from Abdullah? Or is pyrro just trying to squeeze a gyrro so hard out of his ass that another "link" between Yugoslavs and Greeks has just been discovered? Sure does. However ABDIC and ABDICOS sound much much more similar right? Seeing a Bozic-is near to an Abdic-os is a real puzzle. And if Abdicos was coming directly from Abdulah, it would have been Abdulis, Abdulas, Abdulos, Abdalis, Abdalas, etc.. not Abdic nor Abdicos.... right? Is that clear this to you my dear albanian animal?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2011 3:08:08 GMT -5
Italian. The direct descedant of Old Bulgarian. Serbian is Spanish - inderect descedant of Old Bulgarian. "Old Bulgarian" isn't proto-slavic, it's just the dialect of the Thesaloniki region. Russian/Ukrainian is closer to proto-slavic than "Old Bulgarian" is. If they favored their "old bulgarian" so much they would still speak it. They would not chose a Serbian dialect designed by Stefan Dusan (Makedonian/Torlak) as their national language, and take it to extreme by eliminating all 4 declensions that this old official south Serb dialect originally had. (And in south Serbia it is still the same). Besides that, i dont see nothing "bulgarian" old or new near Solun. Rebranding smth Serbian as Bulgarian may look technically easy but is still wrong.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 24, 2011 3:17:59 GMT -5
^It's mainly called Old Church Slavonic, they just like using that name to rub their egos.
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2011 3:29:20 GMT -5
"Old Bulgarian" isn't proto-slavic, it's just the dialect of the Thesaloniki region. Russian/Ukrainian is closer to proto-slavic than "Old Bulgarian" is. Ok, but it was Old Bulgarian that was first written. The slavic written history starts with Old Bulgarian. Thus, it appears to be playing the role of latin in western europe. We are not discussing proto slavic - a language which was not documented, so we cant discussed it. The oldest slavic language attested in sources = old Bulgarian.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 24, 2011 3:39:41 GMT -5
^We're speaking about linguistics, not writing. The majority of Europe during the Roman age did not write nor read are you aware of this ioan.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 24, 2011 3:42:42 GMT -5
Yes, historians piece it together through common vocabulary and the old Novogorod dialect which is widely believed to be the closest dialect to Proto-slavic.
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Post by ioan on Jan 24, 2011 5:12:58 GMT -5
^We're speaking about linguistics, not writing. Of course. But from all latin languages, it was latin that was first written and USED throughout Europe, including in the latin speaking countries like Spain, France, Potrugal... The same thing happened with Old Bulgarian in part of the slavic world. I m aware that lots of people were illiterate BUT also not a small amount of people wrote and read in LATIN.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2011 6:00:44 GMT -5
The majority of Europe during the Roman age did not write nor read are you aware of this ioan. no man thats not true, they had some public forums and they wrote insults to each other on stones, just like we do. Later on, those written texts were worshipped as "inscriptions"! lol!
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Post by rusebg on Jan 24, 2011 6:23:12 GMT -5
Not only during Roman age, Krivo. Middle ages as well, including Serbia who produced her first book two centuries after Bulgaria. Are you aware of this?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2011 6:46:42 GMT -5
Not only during Roman age, Krivo. Middle ages as well, including Serbia who produced her first book two centuries after Bulgaria. Are you aware of this? You are not refering to the first modern Bulgarian book printed in Kragujevac, are you...
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Post by rusebg on Jan 24, 2011 6:48:16 GMT -5
No, Middle Ages. Shall I explain you when Middle Ages were?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 24, 2011 7:12:59 GMT -5
No, Middle Ages. Shall I explain you when Middle Ages were? OOOPSSS!!! i APOLOGIZE! but i rarely read your whole text. Usually the first line of it, and if its a one-liner, then i chose some random words in the center...
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 24, 2011 15:51:14 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if Abdikos comes from Abdullah or not.. The point is that Abdic does (from the shorter version Abdo). It doesn't matter if Abdic and Abdikos sound more similiar to you than Abdikos and Abdullah because we know Abdic definately comes from Ottoman occupation which creates complications that make your greasy theory impossible, budalla.
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Post by roflcopterlanding on Jan 24, 2011 16:32:30 GMT -5
You're totally Slavic, bro!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 25, 2011 3:36:33 GMT -5
You're totally Slavic, bro! Ja sam rodjen kao Grk, ali poslje ja sam voleo da budem SRBIN!! Razumjes sto ja kazem? ;D ;D ;D Oure Shapers ti s'leou? (<============== Was i Greek enough in this sentence, thats how Greeks speak in mainland Greece)
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 25, 2011 5:29:21 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if Abdikos comes from Abdullah or not.. The point is that Abdic does (from the shorter version Abdo). It doesn't matter if Abdic and Abdikos sound more similiar to you than Abdikos and Abdullah because we know Abdic definately comes from Ottoman occupation which creates complications that make your greasy theory impossible, budalla. The only occupation i see is that of sh1t taking over your braincells. Check it out bro... i'll put it in another way, When Decikas comes from Decic, Bozikis from Bozic, Zdravos from Zdravo, Gotovos from Gotovo, Nikolitsas from Nikolic, Terovitsas from Terovic, then why the funk do you have a particular problem with Adbic-os coming from Abdic? You have a syndrom man, look after it...
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Post by terroreign on Jan 25, 2011 17:00:32 GMT -5
It doesn't matter if Abdikos comes from Abdullah or not.. The point is that Abdic does (from the shorter version Abdo). It doesn't matter if Abdic and Abdikos sound more similiar to you than Abdikos and Abdullah because we know Abdic definately comes from Ottoman occupation which creates complications that make your greasy theory impossible, budalla. He's trying to say that 'Abdikos' derived from muslim Slavs in Greece who held the name 'Abdic' during the Ottoman era. How hard is that to understand.
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Post by rusebg on Jan 25, 2011 17:06:45 GMT -5
Now Serbs in Greece were Muslim Slavs? Come on, Krivo, don't try to justify Pyrro's crap. Don't you see it is a lost cause and could make you look like an idiot?
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Jan 25, 2011 17:13:50 GMT -5
I think he's trying to say that Muslims in Greece are Grecified Serbs. But maybe you have the correct interpretation
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