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Feb 11, 2011 0:04:38 GMT -5
Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 11, 2011 0:04:38 GMT -5
Why fake? He sounds textbook Albanian and was picked correctly even by fellow Albanian. Rejection of ethnicity should be a completely logical next step in the Albanian mentality. For all the hatred of religion you Muslim Albanians project here it contradicts that ethnicity is far and away more ridiculous, fake and destructive then religion thats for sure. Tribalism seems the more apropriate term for Albanians rather than ethnicity.
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Feb 11, 2011 3:14:25 GMT -5
Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 11, 2011 3:14:25 GMT -5
Some of the albs really crack me up, it must be some similarities we share. Perhaps some blood relations, I can not pin point it. Oh, yeah it must be the slavic genes. Krivo get to work boy and convert these long lost brothers of ours. ;D ;D ;D Just teasing
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Feb 11, 2011 10:00:44 GMT -5
Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 11, 2011 10:00:44 GMT -5
The only Albanian who wasn't shy to admit he was religious here was the Christian Malsor brother Malsor4life. Otherwise the only Albanian who doesn't regularly hate on religion is Donnie so I suspect he may be a practicing Muslim just simply avoiding conflict here.
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Feb 11, 2011 10:20:07 GMT -5
Post by zoti on Feb 11, 2011 10:20:07 GMT -5
Hi Why? Did you grow in a "befotrof" by any chance? Nope, I just learned a lot of things, and I understand that the ethnicities are just like religion, pure tales... When you learned all those things which ethnicity did you decide was a pure tale? You said you're an Albanian citizen but not ethnic Albanian so you're either Greek, Vlach, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Bosnian, Armenian, Jewish or a mutt. The only Albanian who wasn't shy to admit he was religious here was the Christian Malsor brother Malsor4life. Otherwise the only Albanian who doesn't regularly hate on religion is Donnie so I suspect he may be a practicing Muslim just simply avoiding conflict here. Albanians from the Republic are with very few exceptions non-religious. Albanians from the former Yugoslavia are more religious than us and the Catholics are super-religious.
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Feb 11, 2011 10:36:30 GMT -5
Post by Why? on Feb 11, 2011 10:36:30 GMT -5
ToskalikuYou know at least what Troll means? @z Is said mut with 1 t only, nice attempt anyway, your Albanian sucks.
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Feb 11, 2011 11:18:20 GMT -5
Post by toskaliku on Feb 11, 2011 11:18:20 GMT -5
Your character seems pretty constructed. Your trying to your best to provoke something, not necessarily bad, however it seems quite contrived. Your whole persona seems like a serious joke account. Some people here may believe you, but you don't fool me.
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Feb 11, 2011 11:42:14 GMT -5
Post by zoti on Feb 11, 2011 11:42:14 GMT -5
@z Is said mut with 1 t only, nice attempt anyway, your Albanian sucks. Really? Mut? I was referring to a "mutt", a person of mixed ethnicities, not the Albanian "mut", which you thought I was referring to. I wonder why. Oh and my Albanian is superior to yours in every way, unless you can conjugate the verb "jam" in "të kaluarën e tejshkuar."
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Feb 11, 2011 13:29:13 GMT -5
Post by donnie on Feb 11, 2011 13:29:13 GMT -5
The only Albanian who wasn't shy to admit he was religious here was the Christian Malsor brother Malsor4life. Otherwise the only Albanian who doesn't regularly hate on religion is Donnie so I suspect he may be a practicing Muslim just simply avoiding conflict here. Wrong. I am an agnostic, I believe in God, but not in organised religion. I've been in a mosque only once (one other time was inside a historical mosque, not during prayer time) out of curiosity. It's not for me. And it's not like our patriotic philosophy is to supress all sense of religiosity, certainly this was practice during the communistic period, but that has alot to do with the marxist ideology which saw religion as the opium of masses and a means to make the supressed feel content. So, it's not that we're "ashamed" to "admit" we're religious when we're infact not. And I know several of my compatriots who are religious and not ashamed at all to admit they're so, nor does this stand in their way to feel a brotherly love for those compatriots who do not belong to the same religion. Of course, such a fact is difficult to fathom by you Serbs since you judge us from your own perspective, where religion has been a source of division and conflict, resulting in war and bloodshed. Our experience is completely different. Remember, we managed national unity despite being religiously heterogenous well before communism took over .. our tradition of religious tolerance has a depth that is not as shallow as some of you think, nor is it so vulnerable as you (would like to) think.
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Feb 11, 2011 13:29:31 GMT -5
Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 11, 2011 13:29:31 GMT -5
Toskali basically believes you are not a genuine person but an account made by another forumer with some sort of agenda if I am not mistaking.
In defense of Why? - IP is unique and location is in Tirane, Albania so it doesn't appear that Toskali is correct. Dont worry Why? cause if at any point you become Albanian by ethnicity and publicly acknowledge it here on the forum you will then instantaneously become a star among the Albs just like Krivo would become if he was to listen to some Alb advices to become 'again' Alb ;D
It is a thing of emotions ;D ;D ;D
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Feb 11, 2011 16:19:20 GMT -5
Post by Why? on Feb 11, 2011 16:19:20 GMT -5
ToskalikuYou're a troll. @z Mutt means racially mixed, not ethnically mixed. donnieAgnostic means to don't know if exists a god, what you're is a deist, you believe in the direct contact between God(s) and the believer. @emperor Is OK, I know how to deal with the trolls and other close minded people.
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Feb 11, 2011 17:12:58 GMT -5
Post by zoti on Feb 11, 2011 17:12:58 GMT -5
@z Mutt means racially mixed, not ethnically mixed. Well since you know what it means are you willing to shed some light as to your ethnic origin? Just curious.
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Feb 11, 2011 17:22:21 GMT -5
Post by toskaliku on Feb 11, 2011 17:22:21 GMT -5
I dont think this is an account made by another forumer. Just someone having fun with the forum, and Im still convinced that is the case.
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Feb 11, 2011 17:24:40 GMT -5
Post by toskaliku on Feb 11, 2011 17:24:40 GMT -5
Im quite proud to declare myself culturally Muslim and most people I am around believe me to be Muslim. Two of my best friends and last person I dated are/were Turks and Im quite open about my desire to see Muslim Balkan people, even if secular and atheist like me, unite together... Bosnians, Albanians, Turks et al. This while also being Orthodox Christian on half my family side.
I have never in my life been in a mosque... so there you guy... Not embarrassed, not afraid, not avoiding conflict. Im quite open when I call Turks "brothers as a people".
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Feb 11, 2011 17:41:54 GMT -5
Post by roflcopterlanding on Feb 11, 2011 17:41:54 GMT -5
Race is a biological reality, then, or is that a social construction that you don't mind?
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Feb 11, 2011 17:42:56 GMT -5
Post by Why? on Feb 11, 2011 17:42:56 GMT -5
My ethnic background is 6/8(3/4) Albanian, 1/8 Sinto & 1/8 Turk as many Albanians of Muslim background. I don't care about any ethnicity or religion, despite my kin cares a lot.
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Feb 11, 2011 17:46:11 GMT -5
Post by Why? on Feb 11, 2011 17:46:11 GMT -5
Race is a biological reality, then, or is that a social construction that you don't mind? I'm not so sure, but I think I've read somewhere in an anti-racist forum that the genetic differences of the size of the nose was bigger than the genetic difference of the color of the race. You wanna create now the Nosist party? ;D Big noses: Let's kill those damn rat(small) noses! Small noses: Let's exterminate these dog(big) noses! ;D
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Feb 11, 2011 17:47:24 GMT -5
Post by roflcopterlanding on Feb 11, 2011 17:47:24 GMT -5
For my part, I'm not sure whose question you answered.
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Feb 11, 2011 19:04:38 GMT -5
Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 11, 2011 19:04:38 GMT -5
Now that you have disclosed your origins now expect the 'verdict' by the emotional ones on what is the reason you are 'deficient' as they probably view you in a sense that you are 'ethnicless' as you put it. Now that the emotional ones know your origins they will assume they have better grasp of your true 'essence'.
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Feb 12, 2011 22:34:45 GMT -5
Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 12, 2011 22:34:45 GMT -5
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Feb 14, 2011 17:45:18 GMT -5
Post by zoti on Feb 14, 2011 17:45:18 GMT -5
Dont worry Why? cause if at any point you become Albanian by ethnicity and publicly acknowledge it here on the forum you will then instantaneously become a star among the Albs just like Krivo would become if he was to listen to some Alb advices to become 'again' Alb ;D We have our work cut out by the Serbs and Greeks of this forum. They'll make an Albanian out of even the most "ethnicless" Albanian.
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