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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 2:26:36 GMT -5
Serbs have a tendency to have Almond-shaped to quite-slanted Eyes. Whether this is from Hun influence, Slavic, or Sarmatian, this is unknown and up to your own discretion. However one thing's for sure, this eye-type (I will call from now on, 'Serb eyes'), is most present in the traditionally purest Serb territories (Zeta, Travunija, Zahumlje, Paganija - Present day Montenegro, Hercegovina, Srpska Krajina, Bosnia, Dalmatia). Vojin Cetkovic - Montenegro (Brda) Marko Pantelic - Montenegro (Old Hercegovina) Zdravko Colic - Hercegovina Jovan Perisic - Hercegovina Nedeljko Bajic - Hercegovina i43.tinypic.com/2u7bojl.jpg[/img] Dragana Mirkovic - Hercegovina Ana Ivanovic - Montenegro (Brda) Marija Vujovic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro) Nikola Janovic - Montenegro (Boka Kotorska) Aleksandar Sapic - Montenegro (Old Hercegovina) Vanja Udovicic - Montenegro (Old Hercegovina) Aleksandar Ciric - Hercegovina Zivko Gocic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro) Luka Vusurovic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro) Vladan Radunovic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro) Vukajlo Djukic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro) Jovan Perovic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro) Njegos Dejan Stankovic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro) Goga Sekulic - Montenegro (Old Hercegovina) Mile Kitic - Bosnia (Krajina) Goran Radonjic - Montenegro (Old Montenegro)
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 2:29:20 GMT -5
This is in sharp contrast with the traditionally round-eyed Hellenes, and thus in sharp contrast with AAdmin's notions of hellenic origins.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 9, 2011 3:28:30 GMT -5
Krivo, mislim Pantelic je "juznoprugas" (Torlak!) iz Nisa, a Stankovic pravi Sumadinac.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 9, 2011 3:40:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure guys, but l think this is just a specific dinaric evolutionary trait for that region. Even that ugly serb woman tennis player, when l look more closely, is highly dinaric (long-narrow face, thicker lips, higher cheak bones when comparing pure meds etc....).
Some of the pictures, the people in question, have external folds (common for caucasoids)
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 3:46:51 GMT -5
pyross - Pantelic is like 5 generations back from Piva, Montenegro. Many from Nis and that region descend from Montenegro, Hajduk Veljko Petrovic Stankovici descend from Old Montenegro. Pola Sumadije je poginuo u WW1 i 2 pyrros, moras sjetit'
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 3:55:20 GMT -5
Novi of course external folds, we're Caucausians as were the Sarmatians. There's no question about that.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 4:24:30 GMT -5
Marija Karan - Hercegovina/Bosnia Goran - Montenegro Igor Kostic - Montenegro Danijel Djokic - Montenegro
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 9, 2011 4:26:08 GMT -5
pyross - Pantelic is like 5 generations back from Piva, Montenegro. Many from Nis and that region descend from Montenegro, Hajduk Veljko Petrovic Stankovici descend from Old Montenegro. Pola Sumadije je poginuo u WW1 i 2 pyrros, moras sjetit' A, U redu, nisam znao to. A zasto ne govore Jekavski?
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 4:29:08 GMT -5
^Jok, svi su ionako isti. Ali hercegovci i crnogorci malo visokiji i vise curly/thick hair...ali pored toga bas isti izgledaju sve u svemu
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 9, 2011 4:30:55 GMT -5
Ja sam promenio pitanje!!
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 4:35:03 GMT -5
Starci pak govore ijekavski u Uzici i drugim regionima sumadije...za nisa i pirota brze su promjenili govoru kroz generacije valjda zbog vecih razlika u torlackim.
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Post by Novus Dis on Feb 9, 2011 5:05:52 GMT -5
How about a few Serbs outside of Montenegro?
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 9, 2011 5:43:12 GMT -5
Krivo, this is obviously what I was getting at in my Asian looking Serbs thread. You should add Scepanovic, a Montenegrin basketball player whos nickname is Kinez, literally China-man.
Another thing to note is that Serbian eyebrows are rarely droopy. They tend to head upwards to a point as they go out from the middle.
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Post by gavrilo on Feb 9, 2011 6:15:56 GMT -5
I think this thread is on point. I definately see that most of us have the almond shaped and/or slightly slanted eyes. While I do not particulary have it, many people have those exact traits.
My roomate is from Piva, lots came to Vrbas and Vojvodina back in the day. He still goes back, very bueatiful. Def plan on going there when I get a chance.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 9, 2011 7:38:23 GMT -5
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 9, 2011 12:15:10 GMT -5
PS: There is no sense to talk more then what needs to be said. Who gets it gets it.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 13:28:20 GMT -5
^We're focusing here on the shape of the eyes, not on the placement. I am not advocating Mongolian-influence nor epicanthic folds, for I believe this trait was not brought by the Mongols (or any asian people for that matter).
Eyes would have altered in shape due to climate factors as well, it's not as simple as you'd think.
One thing which I noticed truly distinguishes Serb eyes from Hellenic eyes is the top arch of the eye.
For the Serb, this arch is minimal to non-existent, for the Hellene it is large and pronounced.
**Oh and let's remember: we're focusing on Ancient Hellenes, not modern Hellenes who inevitably acquired Turkic, Iranic and other foreign elements into their ethnos just as Serbs acquired some Hellenic.
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Post by ulf on Feb 9, 2011 17:07:37 GMT -5
Krivosanin ne slazem se sa tvojom konstantacijom da je pola Sumadije pobijeno u svetskim ratovima. Pre svega jer je u srpskim vojskama u I i II svetskom ratu bilo dosta ljudi koji sami nisu iz Sumadije. Drugo sve osobe koji si postavio su ili Crnogorci ili Hercegovci, kao da drugi Srbi ne postoje. I na kraju, sve osobe koje si postavio izgledaju manje kao Srbi a vise kao drugi ne-balkanski Sloveni. Znam ja dosta Crnogoraca ovde(ne toliko Hercegovaca doduse) i ima dobar deo njih imaju svetlije kose(razne varijante smedje) i svetle oci(naravno nisu vecina). Tako da je ovo sto si ovde prikazao stvarno losa predstava o bilo cemu
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2011 19:10:28 GMT -5
^Ne treba da se slazes, nego da priznas da je upravo. U vrijeme WW2, barem pola sumadije je poginuo od nacista. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kragujevac_massacreU samoj kragujevci, 7 hiljada pobijeno! Fakat je da su Sumadinci u WW1 bili najbrojniji u ratovima u Solun, Albaniji, Bugariji, itd. Crnogorci su tada imali svoju vojsku. I ovo ne govori o boju kose nego o vrsti ocija, da budemo precizni. Ovi ovdje predstavljaju vecina, i nemam namjeru da predstavljam nesto sto nije iskreno.
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Post by ulf on Feb 9, 2011 19:48:39 GMT -5
Ma jok decko, zivis u zabludi. Crnogorci i drugi Srbi, pa cak i druge narodnosti bivse Jugoslavije, se jesu doselili u Srbiju posle drugog svetskog rata, ali si ti preuvelicao broj zrtava u Srbiji. Sto se tice ucestanosti Srba iz Sumadije u prvom svetskom ratu, tacno je da su bili najbrojniji, ali bilo je mnogo slucajeva da su dolazili Srbi iz drugih krajeva u srpsku vojsku
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