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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 21:20:01 GMT -5
^Beautiful, Arvanites true Hellenic warriors continuing the spirit of Odysseus and Achilles kali doulia...
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Post by drinus123 on Feb 17, 2011 21:22:02 GMT -5
you two should have a drink. discuss your ethnic complexities.
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Post by jonleka on Feb 17, 2011 21:26:11 GMT -5
Lets just say Albanians never fought the Turks, we changed our relegion, fought for the Turks, but one thing we never did for sure was send our sisters in Sultans Harem. This one is for the mighty Serbs.
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Post by drinus123 on Feb 17, 2011 21:29:05 GMT -5
slavic booty high demand
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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 21:39:13 GMT -5
Lets just say Albanians never fought the Turks, we changed our relegion, fought for the Turks, but one thing we never did for sure was send our sisters in Sultans Harem. This one is for the mighty Serbs. Actually mainly Albanian girls...just they did it willingly, ask Why? he's part Turk just as many of you unknowingly are. Turks don't hold Arnavuti in such high regard for nothing
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 17, 2011 21:47:20 GMT -5
Think Before You Open Your Mouth !
If Arvanites were Albanians then some questions are unanswered:
1. That they were always fighting for Greece and several times against Albanians If necessary (Ottoman times)
2. During the rise of Albanian nationalism (19th century) they didn't claim themselves as Albanians but as Greeks and they were the ones with other Hellenes to claim the whole Epirus for Greece after Balkan wars although the Arvanite language was very alive.
3. The first time they appeared in Greece was during the late Byzantine times and the Byzantine emperors were very sensitive in demographic structure of Greece. So how they would allow "Albanians" to massive colonise Greece? In the same way what Constantine Porphyrogenitus had said "The whole of Greece has been slavicised". He enslaved the vast majority of Slavs sending them to nonGreek areas of the empire, mainly to nowadays central Turkey. In the same way Basil II killed and expelled all Bulgarians from the empire.
4. The Avanites were initialy called Hellenes-Arvanites (ie the Greeks from Albania) and later on it was cut to Arvanites and the areas they came from are N. Epirus and the coast that was colonised by Greeks during clasical, Hellenistic and Roman times. What happened with the Greek colonies and the Greeks in nowadays Albania after Roman times? Where did all these Greeks go???
5. If they were assimilated with other Greeks from the 12th and next centuries their language would be extinct. What would be their benefit of adopting Greek conscience particularly when Greece was occupied by Turks for about 4 centuries??? As everyone knows Turks were severely harrasing Greeks. Albanians were often helping Turks and getting money, land and other benefits from them for attacking Greeks. Imagine that in modern times Albanian immigrants in Greece although they have HUGE economic and social benefits (health etc.) the vast majority feels a big hatred against Greeks and although they want to stay in Greece much more than Albania they ALWAYS feel Albanians. None would ever say that he is a VoreioEpirote (Greek from Albania) including the Albanised Greeks although Greek government gives lots of benefits to Greeks from Albania.
6. About the Arvanitian language that is closer to Albanian than Greek it is a fallacy because the language does not make people of the corresponding nationality. For example Irish speak English but they hate to be called English; Guadeloupians (Carribean tribe) speak French but they are not French. Even the Pontians (Greeks from Russia) most of times talk in Russian but they are not Russians.
I hope these facts give a good answer to the people that think Arvanites are Hellenised Albanians
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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 21:54:57 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 21:56:37 GMT -5
Under Ottoman law Muslims could not be enslaved, but Albanian girls were there on free-will....things haven't changed much from today...
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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 22:05:51 GMT -5
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Post by jonleka on Feb 17, 2011 22:06:25 GMT -5
Prove it picko
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Post by terroreign on Feb 17, 2011 22:11:01 GMT -5
O kurve the proof is written in front of your eyes...
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Post by jonleka on Feb 17, 2011 22:17:34 GMT -5
japa japa japa thats not wat celebi saw when he thru Albania.
Shall we sing the song Milica Milica you know the rest the daughter of mighty Lazar was getting banged by Sultan bayezid, it did not stop there even timerlane got some.
Dont make me mention the others.
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Post by roflcopterlanding on Feb 17, 2011 22:54:42 GMT -5
The most famous albanian objectively speaking, is Kemal from GTA 4 who you kill like the first mission of the game Nice, I never bothered to pick GTA4 up (San Andreas was good enough) but I'm going to try it out if it includes inter-Balkan killing. Peace out propagandist Long live Hellenic-Serb Georgios Kastriotis ;D You're in good form.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 17, 2011 22:58:28 GMT -5
[glow=gold,2,300]Honor [/glow] Respect to our heroic Souliotisses !
They threw their children,Kids,Babys down, and jumped to her death from the cliff that they might not become the slaves of the Turks and Turkalbanians !!There is a city in modern Albania, named after a lady who did the same. She jumped to her death from the cliff with her baby in her arms when some Turks stormed her castle and she had no protection since her husband had gone to fight against the Turks. Her name was Argyro and the city is called Argyrokastro (from Greek = The castle of Argyro). I think they would take the babies with them since they did not want them enslaved and made into Muslims by the Turks.. Dance of Zalongo
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Post by emer on Feb 17, 2011 23:08:31 GMT -5
^Is Argjiro Gjirokaster? I've heard of this story before, didn't know she was from there.Thanks for sharing this with us...
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 18, 2011 4:41:31 GMT -5
It is interesting and funny how propaganda coming from kopils like Karta (Arbanites by origin) and Krivo (Malesor by origin).
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Post by drinus123 on Feb 18, 2011 10:48:12 GMT -5
These kopiles are the worse kind. They change their nationality whenever convenient for them
I hope I don't run into any of them. Stop calling Karta Albanian(he has no relation whatsoever with it). The only adjective fit for that dude is retard.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 18, 2011 12:13:45 GMT -5
japa japa japa thats not wat celebi saw when he thru Albania. Shall we sing the song Milica Milica you know the rest the daughter of mighty Lazar was getting banged by Sultan bayezid, it did not stop there even timerlane got some. Dont make me mention the others. Just sing Milose Milose, Serbian son killed sultan murat and it will all come back to you...how low you are on the totem pole...
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 18, 2011 13:16:27 GMT -5
Yes Argjiro is from ( Gjirokaster ) Argirokastro Greek blood flows in my veins like my forefathers the Ancient Greeks !!and you have the same DNA hahahaha !! morons It's official, you are retarded, and the brainwashed f*ggots ! You are all Greeks in the whole areas of the Haemos !!Albanians don't need to have Grecophobia!!
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Post by rex362 on Feb 18, 2011 13:44:41 GMT -5
It is interesting and funny how propaganda coming from kopils like Karta (Arbanites by origin) and Krivo (Malesor by origin). BINGO Just like Nikos Kriezotis & Vassos Mavrovouniotisthese two were real life vlamis/vlams one An Arvanitis the other from Albanian Clan in Montenegro
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