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Post by zoti on Feb 14, 2011 11:41:10 GMT -5
@odel To me the word "Gypsy" or "Roma" are insults or misnames, just "Sinti" is not an insult. Do the Sinti in Albania use "Sinti" or is that just a new politically correct term? I remember the Gypsies in Albania calling themselves "Gabel" and the term they used for us was "Gaxhi". Later they started using "Roma". Or are we talking about "Arrixhinj" when using Sinti?
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Post by Why? on Feb 14, 2011 11:54:05 GMT -5
@zoti
You're confusing the way of life "nomadic" with the Sinti ethnicity. Nomads can be Albanian or Italian or whatever as well. I've seen many documentaries on Italia 1 TV, I saw Sinti to live in big cities with cool houses and I also saw Italians living in the roads as nomads. These are two different things, and shouldn't be confused with each others. "Gabela" I think derives from "Cappella"(Italian word for the English "Chapel") to describe the Christian Sinti. About the word "Arixhinj" I thing has nothing to do with ethnicities, is a "Bear handler" (Ari+xhi) is a kind of Turko-Albanian word.
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Post by zoti on Feb 14, 2011 12:22:02 GMT -5
@zoti You're confusing the way of life "nomadic" with the Sinti ethnicity. Nomads can be Albanian or Italian or whatever as well. I've seen many documentaries on Italia 1 TV, I saw Sinti to live in big cities with cool houses and I also saw Italians living in the roads as nomads. These are two different things, and shouldn't be confused with each others. "Gabela" I think derives from "Cappella"(Italian word for the English "Chapel") to describe the Christian Sinti. About the word "Arixhinj" I thing has nothing to do with ethnicities, is a "Bear handler" (Ari+xhi) is a kind of Turko-Albanian word. I've never heard of Sinti in Albania thats why I'm curious. What is the term used in Albania for the Sinti?
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Post by Why? on Feb 14, 2011 21:06:13 GMT -5
@zoti
There are many words, mostly are misnames or pejoratives. Sinti seems to be the only one which isn't an insult or a pejorative, that's all. These people come from Pakistan/India, not from Romania. I'm ethnicless, not Sinti, that's just my heritage.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Feb 15, 2011 2:57:04 GMT -5
Why? is a gypsy and turk and a mix of bunch of others so he is mad that he cant identify with one ethnicity, he is a mut...
Ethnicity does exist and its starts from one person and it goes to family, clan, language, land where you live etc.
You are part of a melting pot ethnicity you cant be ethnicless lol
U mad. ;D
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Post by zoti on Feb 15, 2011 9:39:02 GMT -5
There are many words, mostly are misnames or pejoratives. Sinti seems to be the only one which isn't an insult or a pejorative, that's all. These people come from Pakistan/India, not from Romania. I'm ethnicless, not Sinti, that's just my heritage. I was only asking out of curiousity since I never heard the term before. Gabel is what I believe the Roma call themselves in Central Albania. The non-Roma are called "Gadji". We use the term "Jevg" which is derogaotry. The Sinti I read are Romani people from Germany and Austria so I don't understand how you can be 1/8 Sinti. Why? is a gypsy and turk and a mix of bunch of others so he is mad that he cant identify with one ethnicity I don't think that's necessary.
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Post by Why? on Feb 15, 2011 12:02:15 GMT -5
Why? is a gypsy and turk and a mix of bunch of others so he is mad that he cant identify with one ethnicity, he is a mut... Ethnicity does exist and its starts from one person and it goes to family, clan, language, land where you live etc. You are part of a melting pot ethnicity you cant be ethnicless lol U mad. ;D Do you think Albanians are pure blood? Every ethnicity on Earth is a milkshake. I can't be a mut, because I'm human, you under valuate being human and care more about an idiotic imaginary thing as the ethnicity, you're a mut.
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Post by emer on Feb 15, 2011 12:29:49 GMT -5
Why? reminds me of Atheists who are so convinced that God does not exist and so against those who believe that they almost turn it into a religion.
Anyway, as human beings we all need to feel like we belong somewhere.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Feb 16, 2011 2:21:50 GMT -5
Why? you need to study a little bit. Since we believe it, we live it, then it is a real as a rock. You can argue it, but it does exist since it makes such an impact and people get killed for being a certain ethnicity I seen in with my own eyes. So saying something doesn't exist in this weird world you need to prove it doesn't. In your way of thinking Mathematics, gravity, religion, ethnicity, electrons, energy, contract, happiness, space, time, truth, causality, and God and a lot of other things don't exist because we cant see them but humans make these things exist even if previously they didn't. Study ontology.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 16, 2011 4:02:04 GMT -5
why? is a cursed liar. he's a hardcore albanian fascist in sheep's clothing. celebrate ya wimps.
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Post by zoti on Feb 16, 2011 10:37:44 GMT -5
why? is a cursed liar. he's a hardcore albanian fascist in sheep's clothing. celebrate ya wimps. Albanians from Albania are by and large not very nationalistsc. Then they come into contact with Serbs and Greeks and it all goes downhill from there.
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 16, 2011 11:40:06 GMT -5
I would like to think that our duty as existing beings is to find our individual purpose. Obviously this is something that cannot be just handed to anyone. Existence precedes essence. Have you head this term? No,I've not heard of that saying. But I just I don't think there is an inherent purpose other than to survive if we choose to live.Other than that,we just do thing to fulfill ourselves,make ourselves happy.That's all.
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Post by la3ar on Feb 16, 2011 14:43:57 GMT -5
I would like to think that our duty as existing beings is to find our individual purpose. Obviously this is something that cannot be just handed to anyone. Existence precedes essence. Have you head this term? No,I've not heard of that saying. But I just I don't think there is an inherent purpose other than to survive if we choose to live.Other than that,we just do thing to fulfill ourselves,make ourselves happy.That's all. Before you can know or explore anything about yourself, you have to be in touch with the reality that you indeed "exists". Existence is actually me, existing. It's the first thing I am. I exist. I am.In the beginning, the human being does not possess any inherent identity or value. Through consciousness one creates his/her own values (morals or ethical codes), and essentially tries to determine the meaning of ones life. Through this "journey" of [figuring] ourselves out, the essence aspect of our human nature surfaces; We have individual qualities, talents, interests, ideas, ...etc Through essence we seek for our self-truth. "What am I going to do with what I have?" or "What do I want to do with what I have". There is another thread on this; Existentialism. By embracing existence we are no longer nothing. It is the core of existentialism. Through this we seek purpose. Our individual purpose of being or existing.
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 18, 2011 6:45:41 GMT -5
I want to do things in life that bring me pleasure,that give me fulfillment and that make me feel good about myself.
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Post by la3ar on Feb 18, 2011 14:07:13 GMT -5
^ the above you mentioned is actually your duty. We're not machines programmed to complete specific tasks, we're human beings with limitless potential.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 18, 2011 15:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 19, 2011 13:45:46 GMT -5
^ the above you mentioned is actually your duty. We're not machines programmed to complete specific tasks, we're human beings with limitless potential. My duty?? That's just what I want to do.
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Post by la3ar on Feb 19, 2011 17:20:09 GMT -5
I am speaking from an existential point of view.
IF this is what you WANT, then you are in fact fullfilling your duty.
By being human.
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Post by Anittas on May 20, 2011 19:03:28 GMT -5
Aadmin is right. I am very emotional. Especially on a Saturday night, reading a thread such as this one. Wait... I think my emotions are fading away. I feel so helpless, so numb. So nihilistic.
Seriously, before you people open your mouth, do you even consider stumble on a book and hit your head while falling? It might do you some good.
I think you just touched every subject of philosophy in this thread--with the exception of nihilism. Shame on you, Aadmin. Shame on you, dude.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Jun 1, 2011 18:56:47 GMT -5
I'm not going to waste much time here, to even consider this, is a demonstration of low intelligence of anyone who does. If you were a cancer cell, would you question reality? Would question what is right, wrong, or normal. Maybe the immune system shouldn't resist me, maybe its the blood cells, skin cells brain cells that are functioning wrong and cancer cell is normal. Think about that, in terms of people.
Nihilism is just another expression of cultural Marxism, i.e. the denying of reality.
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