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Post by Why? on Feb 16, 2011 16:51:22 GMT -5
@kriv
Dude, even the flag of Poland had a white eagle. Stop deluding yourself.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 16, 2011 18:51:23 GMT -5
You truly are an idiot... I think your mind is about as linear as Patrinos. The perfect byproduct of tunnel vision. Reason why: You have made a conclusion, based on your own values and morals, and reject everything else. We Albanians reject your idea and have explained to you how we conceptualize it... and you put it off as simply "excuses" because it doesn't fit your own ideas. You do the same thing all the time you idiot. All of a sudden now you want to start talking about values lol. You have no realization of your hypocrisy which is getting worse and worse.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 16, 2011 21:38:12 GMT -5
Why - Why don't you research the completely separate origin of the Polish eagle and come back to us, ok sport?
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 16:21:52 GMT -5
Ethnicities are totally imagined and are totally fake.
Just look at the situation in our countries. How much sense does it really make?
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Post by terroreign on Mar 4, 2011 17:17:15 GMT -5
^So what you're saying is, your mother might of given birth to you, but she isn't your mother because the concept of mother is "imagined or totally fake".
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 17:19:10 GMT -5
The concept of the mother, is related to the persons genetic connection to her. There is nothing fake about that.
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 17:21:27 GMT -5
What's fake is the blanket ontop in which the colorful designs, and intriquit details blinds, and creates a sub-connection. Look at the root of all things, the conclusion is simple.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 4, 2011 17:25:18 GMT -5
The concept of the mother, is related to the persons genetic connection to her. There is nothing fake about that. Same with ethnicity, you need to look deeper.
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 17:32:05 GMT -5
Ethnicity is a thin later ontop of the truth. Ethnicity gives you the reason to wake up in the morning and salute whatever is you salute. Ethnicity gives you a false reason to exist, and false reason to risk it all. Ethnicity devalues what a person life is actually worth, by making the world look smaller than what it actually is.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 4, 2011 17:42:19 GMT -5
Sounds more like you're talking about fanaticism. Being a member of an ethnic group, in the traditional sense, is being part of a community with a genetic connection, ie common ancestor.
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 17:44:23 GMT -5
Everyone in the Balkans are connected to each other, if you want to look at it this way. All the tribes that have lived in the Balkans have migrated from one place to another, no one can deny this. The mix of all tribes has created what we all are today. This is something to be embraced about, not fight over.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 4, 2011 17:51:26 GMT -5
^That's a phenomenon which occurs in parts of the world. It's called lying.
People lied to create new ethnicities, or had little discipline and intermarried into another ethnic group. In such cases the older, more traditional of the groups will stay (for the most part) authentic.
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 17:56:29 GMT -5
^That's a phenomenon which occurs in parts of the world. It's called lying. People lied to create new ethnicities, or had little discipline and intermarried into another ethnic group. In such cases the older, more traditional of the groups will stay (for the most part) authentic. Whats lying? The migration of Balkan tribes from one place to another? The "authentic" tradition you are talking about is itself a creation. These creations have done nothing bu segregate people from one another. We distinguish differences, and use that as a reason to.... What we continueously fail to notice is that these differences are not real differences at all.
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Post by laughingriever on Mar 5, 2011 4:02:09 GMT -5
What matters is that the differences are perceived as real. People....<snip>... had little discipline and intermarried into another ethnic group. Krivosh, you should ask for your money back from Stormfront University, during all human history people have married into other groups, from the hunter-gather and nomad bands to the far-wandering indo-euro tribes.
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Post by srbobran on Mar 5, 2011 15:18:51 GMT -5
I tend to agree that were all close cousins on the Balkans, but would that be something to be embarrassed about?
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Post by uz on Mar 5, 2011 15:25:35 GMT -5
Not embarassed. I am trying to point out that our differences are our legacy. If it can be agreed that we are all inter-connected, this being so for thousands of years, what the hell does the politics today have anything to do with it? I mean, if you look closely at the Balkans history, you will probably notice a trend. Outside influences have always tried to control the peoples. This has happened then, and is currently happening today. Put away these outside influences and who knows...... right.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Mar 6, 2011 15:58:30 GMT -5
What matters is that the differences are perceived as real. Uz is right. Ethnicity, nationalities, religions etc are nothing more then forms of mass delusion done by manipulating emotions obviously. Masses are practically hypnotized (=logic turned off) and trained to perceive these are real when in fact they are not. If one can change religions and ethnicities at will then they are unstable at best and if the same one is to pick none and their existence is no more. ' I tend to agree that were all close cousins on the Balkans, but would that be something to be embarrassed about?
Embarrassed is again another way emotions are manifested and emotions in their totality have no value as far as being used for assessment purposes.
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Post by uz on Mar 6, 2011 17:36:29 GMT -5
All it takes, is for me to speak a specific language claim to belong to specific religion and I will be accepted. Thats the Balkans.
A Serbs who speaks Albanian, will converse very well Tirana. In fact, no one will probably be able to tell the difference.
An Albanian who speaks Serbian, can assimilate easily in Belgrade and no one would probably be able to tell the difference.
Again.... This is the Balkans.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 9, 2011 23:06:48 GMT -5
What matters is that the differences are perceived as real. People....<snip>... had little discipline and intermarried into another ethnic group. Krivosh, you should ask for your money back from Stormfront University, during all human history people have married into other groups, from the hunter-gather and nomad bands to the far-wandering indo-euro tribes. Exceptions...things like inter-marriage among royalty to end wars, but that occured what like every 100 years or so. Check out the laws of marriage in Ancient Greece, it was illegal to marry foreigners, how the hell do you think it was in less-advanced societies.
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Post by uz on Mar 9, 2011 23:53:41 GMT -5
The illegality of marrying a foreigner has nothing to do with the legacy of Ancient Greece. How do you figure that?
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