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Post by SKORIC on Mar 4, 2011 7:56:03 GMT -5
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Post by SKORIC on Mar 4, 2011 7:56:38 GMT -5
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Post by zoti on Mar 4, 2011 10:14:55 GMT -5
I wonder how my brain would percieve this video if instead of the actress saying sensually "abres tus ojos" in Spanish she said in "open your eyes" in Chinese and the haunting music in the background was replaced by a Britney Spears song. Skoric you have to watch it without having smoked ganja for a couple of days and give us your take too
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Post by terroreign on Mar 4, 2011 16:09:39 GMT -5
is that Bono singing?
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Post by SKORIC on Mar 4, 2011 19:22:33 GMT -5
I wonder how my brain would percieve this video if instead of the actress saying sensually "abres tus ojos" in Spanish she said in "open your eyes" in Chinese and the haunting music in the background was replaced by a Britney Spears song. Skoric you have to watch it without having smoked ganja for a couple of days and give us your take too haha haven't smoked in weeks actually, watch the doco in the second post if haunting music doesn't impress you
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Post by emer on Mar 4, 2011 22:30:20 GMT -5
Reality is unreal
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Post by emer on Mar 4, 2011 22:43:57 GMT -5
[quote author=emer board=alphaforum thread=32997 post=288467 time=1299295820]Reality is unreal How does that make sense?[/quote] Not everything has to make sense, even though that made perfect sense.
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 22:49:13 GMT -5
How does that make sense? Not everything has to make sense, even though that made perfect sense. Well, explain it then. ;D
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Post by emer on Mar 4, 2011 23:02:30 GMT -5
Not everything has to make sense, even though that made perfect sense. Well, explain it then. ;D You want me to explain reality? I don't have enough smoke in my lungs yet.
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 23:28:36 GMT -5
How is reality unreal ?
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Post by SKORIC on Mar 5, 2011 1:23:38 GMT -5
"The world we think we know, the solid reassuring world of our senses turns out to be just a tiny sliver of an infinitely more weirder more wonderful universe then we could of ever conceived of in our wildest fantasies. Our reality is just an illusion."
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Post by laughingriever on Mar 5, 2011 3:43:16 GMT -5
Reality is a very broad energy event of which we perceive a only very small bandwidth. So in essence reality is God and we are its nerve endings.
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Post by SKORIC on Mar 5, 2011 7:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by uz on Mar 5, 2011 15:27:00 GMT -5
So in other words. Reality doesn't exist, because everything we perceive is an illusion.
that pretty much it?
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Post by uz on Mar 5, 2011 18:40:51 GMT -5
Reality is a very broad energy event of which we perceive a only very small bandwidth. So in essence reality is God and we are its nerve endings. I tend to agree with you here. Reality of what? A personal circumstance, the reality of what channel my tv is on? These things can easily be sought as real. But when talking about the universe, or in depth concepts of psychology, eveything goes up in the air. lol, kinda like the Balkans. How many realities exist in the Balkans? 6,7,10?
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Post by laughingriever on Mar 5, 2011 19:56:33 GMT -5
My comment was about the undeniable physical reality into which we are embedded. That physical reality exists outside ourselves and we internalize it and shape it through our sense perceptions. Our perceptions and interpretations of reality can differ (although the underlying physical reality is the same), and the differences are many times greater when you get down to things like social, economical or political "realities".
However, my central point here is that Reality follows only one playbook. All is One. To illustrate the point in terms of physics: modern physics has faced a major problem in the last 50 yrs, it's called the problem of "quantum gravity". Basically the problem is that we have a set of laws that governs what happens at the level of the very small (quantum) and a different set of laws that cover the very large (gravity). But, all physicists agree that nature and reality are unified and should be governed by one set of laws, which only means that we are still missing a big piece of the puzzle.
It's the same idea that we are still missing something essential that makes us see, and divide the, universe into different packages. The four fundamental forces of nature were one force when the universe began; space-time form a continuum and matter and energy are inter-convertible; we used to think of waves and particles as completely different from one another but light has shown that it behaves both as a wave and as a particle, giving rise to the term "wavicle" - something that is both.
It is the same with human beings. We are all interconnected in so many ways. From the carbon atoms in our bodies that came from exploding stars to the "force" that intimately animates us, as it does all life. Everything that happens reverberates down to all the other strands and affects us.
And more specifically to the Balkans, (and this is just my opinion of course) we are all more related and connected to each other than we are to the Germans, Russians, Chinese, Americans, etc. Although, I expect a Grand Theory of Everything to come out in physics before we, the people of Balkan, ever concede to our similarities.
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Post by laughingriever on Mar 5, 2011 22:50:24 GMT -5
There are applications of the chaos theory in quantum and relativity, I think they are called relativistic chaos, but it's not a field I know much about. Chaos theory is not a field unifier but is essentially a piece of math, and like any other math it has rules and structure. I am posting some pages from books I've read to see where my ideas come from so I'll leave it at that. It's a big topic. From my understanding of our current physics, it seems that the universe is fundamentally probabilistic, and by the very act of measuring things we affect them and our measurements have an inherent degree of uncertainty. www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/61842/title/Blog_Heisenberg%E2%80%99s_uncertainty_principle_still_certainOn the problem of quantum gravity. On chaotic systems I believe that everything that happens, happens based on natural laws, and those laws are available to us for discovery but it's impossible to say to what extent, how deep the rabbit hole goes. I think given enough time, we could discover everything there is. In that sense, everything has an explanation. Also, I see science as the flip side of religion: both try to explain reality, but religion starts with the assumption that there is a "life energy" that has created matter, whereas science starts with matter and tries to explain the emergent property of consciousness. It is my personal view that both will have to merge as they recognize the interplay of matter and energy. I don't know that chaos needs an explanation any more than order does. It just is.
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Post by uz on Mar 6, 2011 2:25:17 GMT -5
Radio head - everything in it's right place.
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Post by abubu on Jun 5, 2011 9:19:41 GMT -5
Researchers have bent one of the most basic rules of quantum mechanics, a counterintuitive branch of physics that deals with atomic-scale interactions. Its "complementarity" rule asserts that it is impossible to observe light behaving as both a wave and a particle, though it is strictly both. www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587PS. I look at my post and karma numbers (14, 88) and they are telling me something. They are saying my counter-trolling work here is over. It was a fun game, but all games come to an end, no matter how long it lasts and no matter how good the arrangement, even if it is the heat death of the Universe that does the dissolving. Only those who have traveled will know the dusty paths that lead the way home. The river is always laughing.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Jun 6, 2011 12:19:13 GMT -5
Researchers have bent one of the most basic rules of quantum mechanics, a counterintuitive branch of physics that deals with atomic-scale interactions. Its "complementarity" rule asserts that it is impossible to observe light behaving as both a wave and a particle, though it is strictly both. www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587PS. I look at my post and karma numbers (14, 88) and they are telling me something. They are saying my counter-trolling work here is over. It was a fun game, but all games come to an end, no matter how long it lasts and no matter how good the arrangement, even if it is the heat death of the Universe that does the dissolving. Only those who have traveled will know the dusty paths that lead the way home. The river is always laughing. The only thing I love more than Balkan drama is science. Light initially exists as a wave of probability. As soon as light is observed it 'collapses' into a single event and becomes particles as well. In fact it could be said for everything that exists even ourselves.
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