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Post by Anittas on May 13, 2011 15:38:21 GMT -5
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Post by ivo on May 17, 2011 13:33:32 GMT -5
Anittas, don't be an idiot bro. Why would you want to instigate like that? What you see on that video happens everyday in a whole bunch of different countries.
Realistically, out of all our neighbors.. Bulgaria probably has the best relationship with Romania, it's a state of "neutrality" I guess. You guys are indifferent towards us, and we're indifferent towards you.
I've actually dated 4 Romanian girls, with one I was with for more than 3 years, and I've been to your country.
The hate you speak of is non existent. Though, every society has it's extreme elements.. including your own.
So let's try to remain objective, rather than going on and on about something so insignificant. From what I gather, your negativity towards Bulgaria is based on personal experiences. If that's the case, sorry, but is what it is.
It ain't right to generalize an entire people based on that, and again, your people have your own set of "extremists".
Chill out
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Post by Anittas on May 17, 2011 19:31:35 GMT -5
If anyone after reading Ivo's post wonders how a Bulgarian can sound so reasonble, the answer is simple: Ivo's nickname used to be Asen--which is another way of acknowledging your Romanian identity. Ivo is Romanian.
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Post by ioan on May 18, 2011 6:22:13 GMT -5
wtf? ?? Asen is NOT Romanian name... Actually its kind of hard to find a proper romanian name... Most sound like variants of Bulgarian names.
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Post by Anittas on May 18, 2011 8:55:14 GMT -5
Ioan is a Romanian name, too. Ioan is Romanian, also.
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Post by ivo on May 18, 2011 9:23:20 GMT -5
Asen was originally thought to have been of Turkic origin, but later shown to have been Iranic in its origin. The name itself is Bulgarian, which is also where it's most commonly found.
The name Ioan is a derivative of John, which is a Biblical name.. ie. not Romanian.
Both these names are old names. ie. they were in existence centuries before the formation of a Romanian state/identity.
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Post by Anittas on May 18, 2011 9:31:27 GMT -5
Sure, there are many names of Persian, Hebrew and Greek origin. That doesn't change the fact that you two are Romanians.
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Post by ivo on May 18, 2011 10:17:35 GMT -5
Romanian (and Ukrainian) chicks love me for some reason, but that don't make me Romanian.. sorry.
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Post by Anittas on May 18, 2011 10:45:56 GMT -5
Ivo, in fact, most Bulgarians are of Thracian herritage and through that association, you are Romanian. End of discussion.
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Post by ivo on May 18, 2011 12:09:16 GMT -5
^ That's horse shit brah. First of all, most Bulgarians are not of Thracian heritage. Second of all, it's the other way around. Dacians are a sub group of Thracians.
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Post by ioan on May 18, 2011 13:58:38 GMT -5
Ioan is a Romanian name, too. It is first attested in Bulgarian. A language first recorded in 9 century, extensively used by the Romanian church/state. Romanian is first recorded in... 15 century. Thus Ioan can not be a Romanian name. Actually most Romanian names (not recent imports) sound like vlachisized proper Bulgarian names like Mircha. We have Mircho.
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Post by ioan on May 18, 2011 14:07:12 GMT -5
Ivo, in fact, most Bulgarians are of Thracian herritage and through that association, you are Romanian. End of discussion. First Thracian doesnt equal Romanian. The fact that Thracians might have played an important role in the forming of the Bulgarian ethnicity doesnt make us Romanians. Actually the influence of the Bulgarians over the Romanians have always been much greater.
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Post by Anittas on May 18, 2011 16:00:53 GMT -5
Through association, you are Romanians. Don't give me that formal and dry academical crap. As if I didn't know the difference between Thracian, Dacian, and newly formed ethnicities in the Balkans. You're Romanian. Now stop bothering me.
And btw, Stephen the Great had the right to claim the throne of the Easern Empire (Byzantine); and Bulgaria was part of Eastern Empire. He also invaded Rumelia on several ocassions to fight the Turks. That makes you, according to my logic, our subjects.
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Post by rusebg on May 18, 2011 16:40:47 GMT -5
Anittas, I highly doubt there are Romanians now who have the name of Asen. Right?
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Post by Anittas on May 18, 2011 18:29:35 GMT -5
Asen in Ro is Asan and there are quite a few Romanians named Asan.
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Post by ioan on May 18, 2011 22:49:53 GMT -5
Through association, you are Romanians. Don't give me that formal and dry academical crap. As if I didn't know the difference between Thracian, Dacian, and newly formed ethnicities in the Balkans. You're Romanian. Now stop bothering me. And btw, Stephen the Great had the right to claim the throne of the Easern Empire (Byzantine); and Bulgaria was part of Eastern Empire. He also invaded Rumelia on several ocassions to fight the Turks. That makes you, according to my logic, our subjects. Actually for most of medievil ages Romanian teritory was ruled by Bulgaria. The influence of Bulgaria continued with the usage of Bulgarian in your church/state. Thracian doesnt equal Romanian.
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Post by Anittas on May 19, 2011 5:00:41 GMT -5
Through association, you are Romanians. Don't give me that formal and dry academical crap. As if I didn't know the difference between Thracian, Dacian, and newly formed ethnicities in the Balkans. You're Romanian. Now stop bothering me. And btw, Stephen the Great had the right to claim the throne of the Easern Empire (Byzantine); and Bulgaria was part of Eastern Empire. He also invaded Rumelia on several ocassions to fight the Turks. That makes you, according to my logic, our subjects. Actually for most of medievil ages Romanian teritory was ruled by Bulgaria. The influence of Bulgaria continued with the usage of Bulgarian in your church/state. Thracian doesnt equal Romanian. Bulgaria didn't rule the whole territory of present-day Romania and when it did, for most of the time, the local dukedoms were vassals to the Bulgarian empire which was founded by a Romanian. So what? I don't mind. If a Romanian would found a third Romanian-Bulgarian Empire, we might go along. Why not?
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Post by rusebg on May 19, 2011 8:48:51 GMT -5
Well, I have never met a Romanian with that name, and I have met quite a lot of Romanians in the last years.
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Post by ivo on May 19, 2011 9:02:45 GMT -5
I've never met a Romanian with that name either, and I too have met many Romanians.
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Post by Anittas on May 19, 2011 13:04:31 GMT -5
I haven't met one with that name either; and I, too, have met quite a few Romanians. So what?
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