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Post by chalkedon on Aug 26, 2011 3:05:19 GMT -5
I find it hillarious that when greece is on the edge of economic and social disaster, you still continue this dangerous game. BTW, the ancient Macedonian roots amongst Slavic Macedonians was first highlighted by Greek Patriachists 19th century Macedonia. They claimed we were Alexanders descendents, but merely spoke a Slavic language due to historical circumstance. I believe this propaganda still continues in Greece, and were are referred to as Slavophone Greeks, instead of Slavophone Macedonians. If it was highlighted by us as you say, then it would only make sense it was to compromise the Bulgarian conscousness in the area. Also, what about Konstantinos Christou (Kottas) ? Was he "duped" into our propaganda? Or do you think he actually put 2+2 together like anyone with a half a brain. Truth is your a modern identity, something in the making for the past 20 plus years. We did this to you, just like a parent tells a child you cant have a candy bar. Macedonian Slavophones, interesting...what did you speak before your Slav language ?
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Post by ivo on Aug 26, 2011 14:24:56 GMT -5
It's astonishing how many still choose to cling on to the theories that today's Macedonians are the same as the Ancient Macedonians.
It's just as pathetic as how there are some, who are very few thankfully, that claim that modern day Bulgarians are Thracians.
All these theories are completely inaccurate.
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Post by chalkedon on Aug 26, 2011 15:01:16 GMT -5
I can accept a Thracian element in today's Bulgarians. But to single out a specific Greek tribe as an origin of descent espescially when your linguistically and culturally a Slav ethnos is just silly. I hope they snap out of it soon.
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Post by BigBlackBeast on Aug 27, 2011 7:42:27 GMT -5
I find it hillarious that when greece is on the edge of economic and social disaster, you still continue this dangerous game. BTW, the ancient Macedonian roots amongst Slavic Macedonians was first highlighted by Greek Patriachists 19th century Macedonia. They claimed we were Alexanders descendents, but merely spoke a Slavic language due to historical circumstance. I believe this propaganda still continues in Greece, and were are referred to as Slavophone Greeks, instead of Slavophone Macedonians. You talk as if they had access to some irrefutable evidence through DNA or linguistics. Simply the Greek aim was twofold: to divorce Macedonia’s Slavs from the Bulgarians (successful) and to bring them into the Greek fold (successful only in part). Using ancient Macedonians and Alexander was the obvious weapon to use in this regard (given the connection of these elements to Hellenism). The purpose was to align the region’s Slavs with the rest of the Makedones (Greek-speaking, Vlach-speaking etc) in common struggle against the Bulgarian hold. Ironically the old ‘weapon’ seems to have gotten into the wrong hands (those of the former Exarchists) and the whole things has gone awry!!
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Post by ioan on Aug 27, 2011 9:02:52 GMT -5
You talk as if they had access to some irrefutable evidence through DNA or linguistics. Simply the Greek aim was twofold: to divorce Macedonia’s Slavs from the Bulgarians (successful) and to bring them into the Greek fold (successful only in part). Using ancient Macedonians and Alexander was the obvious weapon to use in this regard (given the connection of these elements to Hellenism). The purpose was to align the region’s Slavs with the rest of the Makedones (Greek-speaking, Vlach-speaking etc) in common struggle against the Bulgarian hold. Ironically the old ‘weapon’ seems to have gotten into the wrong hands (those of the former Exarchists) and the whole things has gone awry!! totally agree.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Aug 28, 2011 11:11:39 GMT -5
chalkedon
albanians are epirotes slavs are macedonians bulgarians are thracians
but if you dig the earth and you will find only ancient greek treasure
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Post by missanthropology58 on Aug 28, 2011 11:48:43 GMT -5
Thracians are Gothanized Greeks.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Aug 28, 2011 11:50:46 GMT -5
Greek/Bulgarian mixed. Thrace is on the border between Greece and Bulgaria. Native Anatolians are partly Greek in ancestry Yoruks are still nomadic between South Eastern Europe and A.M
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Post by missanthropology58 on Aug 28, 2011 11:51:27 GMT -5
And Albanians are not Slavic that much Tosks ( not Ghegs ) have Greek blood also.
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