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Post by terroreign on Jun 12, 2011 13:55:37 GMT -5
^but you and i alone are expendable, the group is eternal (we are always being replaced w/ newer generations and newcomers).
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Post by uz on Jun 12, 2011 13:57:22 GMT -5
Exactly. The knownedge we carry (as individuals) get passed along to the next. Which essentially retains this group, through the past experiences of the "individuals".
Each peice of the puzzle counts, without one it is un-finished.
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Post by uz on Jun 12, 2011 14:00:55 GMT -5
Krivos, did you get the messege I sent you yesterday, regarding the mythology?
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Post by terroreign on Jun 12, 2011 14:02:28 GMT -5
you're confusing perspectives. an individual perspective which takes information & works constructively in tandem with the group is not an "individual" perspective, it is holistic.
a purely individual perspective would be a schizo, or one of the crazies here. they purely think for themselves, see in other people or things only that which they want to or what helps their personal cause. and basically can care less for the health or progress of the "group".
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Post by uz on Jun 12, 2011 14:04:39 GMT -5
They're reasons for this craziness, they must have experienced something profound or dramatic. Which counts for many of our peoples (I'm sure you agree). Individual experiences shape us.
By just ignoring their view doesn't do anything. Trying to understand their view is something different
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Post by terroreign on Jun 12, 2011 14:11:26 GMT -5
uz, try not talking or being in contact with a living person for about 3 months.
you will begin doing things such as: talking to yourself, becoming more uptight/over-protective of yourself, greedy, paranoid, sensational, obsessive, 1-track minded, forcibly convinced in your own biases, hostile to contradictory beliefs
this is what the "individual perspective" boils down to. this is what we were before we started coming together and making communities and civilization. glorified monkeys
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Post by terroreign on Jun 12, 2011 14:15:05 GMT -5
yeah. pyrros had a thread a couple months back concerning 'serbian fairy tales' and i think included some links to some mythology books or something. besides i don't know anything. i'll try looking for something.
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Post by uz on Jun 12, 2011 14:18:29 GMT -5
You nor I can assume how the "individual" was like before "we got together".
Let's break this down.
The events in the 90's during the Yugo wars;
All the stances on each side, general positions of each side, and general experiences of each side ALL depend on the individuals, and later, collectively come together to create the "bigger-picture".
My point in all this is that each individual is responsible for their own actions and reactions. In the 90's we all had a choice to make. Whether certain choices were justified or not, is not a debate I'm willing to get into.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 12, 2011 22:34:04 GMT -5
that was the problem. entire groups were following a closed, 'individual' perspective, which is why each thought that they were the victims and were justified in there offenses. there was no objective perspective, there was no establishment of "truth".
that wasn't even what i was talking about. i said that the 'individual perspective doesn't matter', and what i meant was that it is counter-productive to establishing a truthful understanding. of course if you take a prioritarian approach or something one can say that technically 'everything matters', but we're not getting that trivial here.
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Post by uz on Jun 12, 2011 23:21:17 GMT -5
In your opinion whose at fault for the fall of Yugoslavia ?
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Post by terroreign on Jun 13, 2011 1:00:17 GMT -5
it is impossible to answer that question, however if i could it'd probably be "the lack of an impartial international authority at the time prior to conflict".
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Post by Anittas on Jun 13, 2011 15:09:37 GMT -5
u n00bies...
debating eugenics here...
tabula rasa.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 13, 2011 22:43:23 GMT -5
Only half of Romania's Jewish population survived the Second World War!
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Jun 14, 2011 10:06:48 GMT -5
^^ Interesting to note that German Nazis also fled to Romania after WW2. I don't know how many but I did personally know a Romanian German who lived here in L.A. He actually married my friend's grandmother who is actually Serb. He retained his pro Nazi or pro German nationalist views all the way to his death in 2005.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Jun 14, 2011 10:08:02 GMT -5
And watch out Krivo. That Romanian can counter with Belgrade was the first city declared 'Jew free' although Serbian Jews like Mose Pijade became Partisan heroes. lol
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Post by terroreign on Jun 14, 2011 14:10:36 GMT -5
^^ Interesting to note that German Nazis also fled to Romania after WW2. I don't know how many but I did personally know a Romanian German who lived here in L.A. He actually married my friend's grandmother who is actually Serb. He retained his pro Nazi or pro German nationalist views all the way to his death in 2005. haha quisling propaganda plus belgrade didnt have many jews to begin with lol
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Post by uz on Jun 14, 2011 16:45:50 GMT -5
I know Dracula is a Romanian thing, but are Vampires also?
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Post by terroreign on Jun 14, 2011 22:15:02 GMT -5
vampires originate actually in slavic mythology, in fact the english word etymologically comes from the serbian language
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Post by uz on Jun 14, 2011 23:08:33 GMT -5
Is the story/idea rather the same as what's said mainstream?
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Post by plisbardhi on Jun 15, 2011 1:45:47 GMT -5
Albs say dhampir for vampire. Dham means tooth, pir means drink so a dhampir is one who drinks with the tooth. Slavs can't pronounce the dh sound which is equivalent to the th in the english word the, so it became a v sound in their tongue. That's how you get vampir. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DhampirIts wiki but it is referenced.
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