Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on Mar 20, 2012 4:03:22 GMT -5
For the sake of brevity, the ancient Greeks were not the originators of all the culture that they claimed and that we in the western world give them credit for. Greece was the entry point of for the accumulated knowledge of mankind coming from Egypt, Persia, India, and the Orient. It was not for nothing that the greatest minds of ancient Greece went to study in Egypt (Pythagoras, Plato, and others). First let's start from this, you stand against the Greeks and you are a Greek-hater, therefore your words that targeting towards us have no value at all as well. The Greeks invented their Greek civilization and took nothing and from no one, prove the opposite if you can... all other people characterized by them as uncivilized Barbarians(this includes Egypt, Persia, India, southern America etc). Greek civilization=only Greek.  ...WHOEVER NON-HELLENE IS A BARBARIAN. |
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Post by realitydysfunction on Mar 20, 2012 7:07:23 GMT -5
For the sake of brevity, the ancient Greeks were not the originators of all the culture that they claimed and that we in the western world give them credit for. Greece was the entry point of for the accumulated knowledge of mankind coming from Egypt, Persia, India, and the Orient. It was not for nothing that the greatest minds of ancient Greece went to study in Egypt (Pythagoras, Plato, and others). First let's start from this, you stand against the Greeks and you are a Greek-hater, therefore your words that targeting towards us have no value at all as well. The Greeks invented their Greek civilization and took nothing and from no one, prove the opposite if you can... all other people characterized by them as uncivilized Barbarians(this includes Egypt, Persia, India, southern America etc). Greek civilization=only Greek. ...WHOEVER NON-HELLENE IS A BARBARIAN. You are a joke, you bring shame to the true Hellenes, man. Words and ideas have a meaning that falls or stands on their own, regardless of the messenger. The ancient Greeks invented jacks**t, they just stole ideas from the Egyptians and Mesopotamians. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalizing_periodwww.cycladic.gr/frontoffice/portal.asp?cpage=resource&cresrc=1176&cnode=55You used to make stuff that looked like this (Greek statues with Egyptian influenced themes and look)   and this  before the Aryan-Doric Greeks arrived and then they started to make this  Shame on you, man! How can you come here and lie to our face without shame that you "invented everything"? |
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Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on Mar 20, 2012 13:52:20 GMT -5
You are a joke, you bring shame to the true Hellenes, man. Ha, ha...shut up your mouth Brabarian piece of s**t about Greece and about me personally. You don't even know what Hellenes are and what they represent. These theories and suggestions proves nothing at all, bring here proofs moron not theories. There is no proof that Greeks took anything and from anyone. Greeks were those who offered their civilization to all others, if we took something from them, this had Greek origin as well as we invented the human civilization. That's the O,1% of the Greek statues. Nonsense. This statue is clearly MEDITERRANEAN AND GREEK not nordic, learn from us Barbarians: The differences between Mediterraneans and Nordics. "Another stab to the Nordicist doctrine are the actual sculptures of ancient Greece. When looking at classical sculpture one sees a very Mediterranean people. Straight or curly thick hair, low smooth foreheads, fleshy faces, round chins, a somewhat broad face, a large fleshy straight nose, full lips as well as almond shaped eyes are seen among the beautiful sculptures of the Greeks. These descriptions would never be taken to characterize someone of Germanic decent. Germanic or Nordic men are defined as having sharp angular features; thin straight noses, many ending in an upturned point, high cheek bones, thin lips, high mounded foreheads, fine straight blond hair, and eyes that are more round then almond in shape. Germanic men are seen as having sharp, hard faces, whereas the ancient Greeks have a much rounder, fuller, softer face. When looking at Greek sculpture one would never take its subjects to be Germanic, but instantly recognize them as Greek."www.freewebs.com/carthia/racialcontroversy.htmThe Dorians were Greeks Meds not Nordic Barbarians as your Nazi friends band.   WHO IS LYING? ME OR YOU, three statues and two sites is your proof that Greeks took their civilization from others and that they were Nordics? Moron... |
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Post by Hellenas on Mar 20, 2012 14:28:48 GMT -5
The Hellenic Supremacy. Konstantinos Plevris. The Hellenic civilization offered everything to the human civilization. The Philosophy, Theatre, Athletism, Science etc. were Greek achievements which brought to the foreigner people. The rich Hellenic language gave a big number of words to the foreigners, so we can claim that the Hellenic civilization made the Hellenes known in all over the world. History and civilization made the Hellenes known in all over the world. On the contrary the foreigner people (except the Romans for a small period of time) did not became known to the world for their civilization or history. The Hebrews for an example would be completely unknown to the world if they didn't have crucify Jesus. Indeed, when we the Hellenes organized whole Cosmocratories what were the Hebrew nomad pastors of the desert? I will also add the beneficial dynamic presence of the Hellenic personalities. For an example Aristotelis with his scientific works, especially with the formation of logic, benefited humanity. And so Euclides with Geometry, Platon with Philosophy, Socrates with meanings, Aristarchos with Astronomy, Homeros with Poetry, Phidias with Sculpture, Archimides with Mathematics, Heron with Mechanics and a large number of Scientists, Artists and of Philosophers who benefited with their works all of humanity. On the contrary the foreigner people do not have similar personalities. There are not any Assyrians, Hittites, Babylonians, Egyptians, Hebrews etc. who benefited all the world, with their works. The ancient Hellenes shine world wide, while the foreigners, completely, do not lack any shine. There is even another one more important difference between the Hellenic personalities and the foreigners, this difference unfortunately have pass unnoticed. And that is: When we mention, for an example, the Philosopher Heracletos we know him, because his works has been found, there are his busts, inscription with his name. Because the Historians memorialize him and so Scientists and other Writers and from the witnesses comes the conclusion, with certainty, that he existed, his historicity, his life and his work has been proven. Same happens with all other ancient Hellenic Scientists, Philosophers, Artists etc. While, when we refer to Ezekiel, Abbacum, Ananias/Hananiah, Malahias etc. Which Historian memorialize them? What they left behind them? Which is their work? How their existance has been proved? Where they benefited humanity? It is a fact that against the existed and beneficial for humanity Greeks, the other people quote non-existed and non-beneficial for humanity persons who came out from fantasy. Science goes on based on the Logic of Aristotelis, the Hellenic language still constitute the tank of every terminology, the Hellenic achievements of Athletism, Philosophy, Theatre etc. remain. No people added something new, something superior. Everybody moves at the contexts that the first creators Hellenes carved. THE FOREIGNERS FOUND NOTHING. Start from the antiquity and show attention to the historic reality, so to realize the truth. Does the Egyptians established Philosophical schοοls? Does the indians spread Athletism? Does the Persians presented the Theatre? Does the Hebrews had Sculptors? Does the Phoenicians developed the Medical Science? Does the Hittites are known for their Architecture? Does the Midians left even the slightest Scientific writing? Does the Assyrians became known for their Literature?When Hellas for millenniums was full of stadiums, theatres, philosophical schools, libraries/bibliotheques, gymnasiums/fitness centers, architectural monuments, statues and when for millenniums the Hellenes produced Mathematicians, Astronomers, Politicians, Philosophers, Athlets, Musicians, Writers of Literature, Historians, Geographers, Painters, Sculptors, Doctors etc., all other peoples of the world were primitives. Also, the Hellenes first found the value of freedom, of truth, of glory, of goodness, the idea of virtue, of heroism, of duty, of beauty and of all those status that make man a superior being. I challenge anyone to tell me just one value, that came from the Phoenicians, from Medians, from Indians, from Hebrews, from Egyptians, from Assyrians etc. So for what reason and for the sake of what purpose we must hide the indisputable historical truth of the absolute Hellenic Supremacy? On the contrary we have to be honest. Hellas means spremacy, everywhere and always. The Hellenic supremacy is absolute. The Hellenes didn't come behind to nothing concerning civilization and they didn't need the 'lights' of any other people. On the contrary, all other people imitated, so much as they could and copied the achievements, that first and only the Hellenes created.
The best students of the Hellenes were the Romans, who, as the Roman Horatius declared, conquered culturally by the Hellenes.The supremacy of the Hellenes can be proved by the fact that everywhere where the Hellenes went they built a large number of cities with great monuments of civilization. Additionally the Hellenic ground pillaged, so the Barbarians of East and West to transfer the masterpieces of the Hellenic art to their museums, where they expose them and they expose their selves. If we come back to the times of the Byzantine Empire(Eastern Roman Empire), we will realize a new florescence of the Hellenic dymamism, that succeeded to impose Cosmocratory and the Hellenic civilization, which moreover was the only civilization of mankind. Of course it is known that the ax-bearer Barbarians of the West, Vandals, Goths, Galatians, Heruls, Teutones etc. and equally the unpolished raiders of the East, Slavs, Bulgarians, Turks, Huns etc. didn't have any civilization. All those were predatoric hordes except if you know any Galatic philosophy, Gothic theatre, Teutonic athletism, Slavic astronomy etc. Does ever found any Turkic scientific writings? Hun music? VANDAL ARCHITECTURE???We had for millenniums all those as vassals and we taught them the civilization of which as a superior race we were bearers. They assimilated what they could and with our help they expressed their own ethnic "civilizations" under the influence of the Hellene proto-creator. For an example, the so called "Gothic style" is the Byzantine style(more "cuspidal"), adjusted to northern climates, the so called "preclassical music" is the copy of the Byzantine folk music, the costume, the titles, the laws, the state organization, the universities, everything without exception came from Byzantium. After the fall of Byzantium a great part of the Greek Scientists, Artists, Μilitaries etc. resorted to the west, where they founded the first universities and contributed decisively to the civilization of the so called Europe. The Hellenic civilization passed everywhere during Byzantium, especially by the Byzantine Princesses which married the various rulers and which literally overruled whole states, for example Theophano(Germany), Helen(Sweden), Zoe(Russia), Euphrosyne(Tartars), Mary(Bulgaria), Anna(Italy) etc. and after Byzantium, with the migration of a great number of personalities outside of the Turkish occupied Hellas. With this way the Science flourished and so the Arts and Literature with as a result the so called Renaissance, which exclusively happened due to the Hellenic-influence.No other nation influenced the world wide history so much as the Hellenes did. Anyway, there isn't any place of the human civilization, to which the Hellenes didn't set the seal of their proto-creative presence. That's the historical truth, either you like it, either you don't like it. |
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Post by realitydysfunction on Mar 20, 2012 14:57:53 GMT -5
These theories and suggestions proves nothing at all, bring here proofs moron not theories. There is no proof that Greeks took anything and from anyone. Greeks were those who offered their civilization to all others, if we took something from them, this had Greek origin as well as we invented the human civilization. LOLThat's the O,1% of the Greek statues. WHO IS LYING? ME OR YOU, three statues and two sites is your proof that Greeks took their civilization from others and that they were Nordics? Moron... Just stop embarrassing yourself, man. It looks like you either don't know your own country's history, or worse, you are denying it. These are not my crackpot theories, these are facts. I am not asking you or anyone to have "an open mind" or to "believe" something; these are historical facts that most intelligent people have acknowledged. I know that there is nothing I can say that you will believe, but I don't care, I am bringing this to others just in the chance that it will add to people's fuller knowledge of history. Here is what scholars and archaeologists have to say (I know you don't think they are scientists or that they are telling the truth because they are jealous). Ancient Greece from Homer to Alexander: The Evidence By Joseph Roisman Publisher: Wiley-Blackwell; 1 edition (May 3, 2011)Ancient Greece: art, architecture, and history By Marina Belozerskaya, Kenneth D. S. Lapatin  The Oxford encyclopedia of ancient Greece and Rome, Volume 1 edited by Michael Gagarin, Elaine Fantham  Black Athena revisited By Mary R. Lefkowitz, Guy MacLean Rogers  This is recorded history. The above are just samples but You will find these statements in most every history book or encyclopedia. |
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Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on Mar 20, 2012 15:23:38 GMT -5
Hey anti-Greek moron, these are all some theories and opinions(when they proved that Mathematics and Astronomy came from Egyptians and Babylonians?) not facts, NEVER, keep repeating that Greek civilization influenced by Egyptians and by Phoenicians...we all understand what you want to say "Greek civilization is not Greek", isn't it? Well, it is ...GREEK.
Better show interest in your own "civilization" and leave us, THE GREEKS, alone.
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Post by realitydysfunction on Mar 20, 2012 16:17:32 GMT -5
OK, kukle, just don't get mad at me. Just keep repeating to yourself "Greeks invented the Cosmos" over and over and everything will be allright.
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Post by uz on Mar 20, 2012 17:12:26 GMT -5
Hellenas re-posting the same info isn't helping anything, sounds like a Greek-nationalist to me. Civilization didn't start in Greece, it started in Africa.  |
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Post by uz on Mar 20, 2012 21:29:04 GMT -5
The time has come for honest men to denounce false teachers and attack false gods !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on Mar 20, 2012 22:57:36 GMT -5
Hellenas re-posting the same info isn't helping anything, sounds like a Greek-nationalist to me. Civilization didn't start in Greece, it started in Africa. Nope, it started in Greece. You just have believe what the Sionistic/Jewish system of USA and of Europe provides=lies. With the same way westerns say that the whole humanity came out of Africa and so the civilization, we can say that the Serbs are criminals and the bad guys of the Balkans, who killed innocent Albanians while Kosova belongs to Albanians as well. |
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Post by dukeduka on Jan 28, 2013 1:12:36 GMT -5
I knew that.
P....O....W....
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