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Post by uz on Sept 27, 2011 14:34:58 GMT -5
The point was mainly about whether anyone has been to belgrade, but sure ya, Serbs do extent outside the boders of Serbia.
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Post by elemag on Sept 27, 2011 15:12:51 GMT -5
Yeah, yeah...half of the Serbs here don't even speak Serbian. They may extend to the Moon for all I care. Still, they are unable to speak their mother tongue. Pfffffffffffffff
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Post by uz on Sept 27, 2011 18:52:33 GMT -5
Yes yes, we know you hate Novi. How did your feud originate?
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Post by ivo on Sept 27, 2011 21:29:47 GMT -5
Waaaay back in the day, Pazar's philosophy on Macedonia and Macedonians was that they're a blend of Bulgars and Serbs. As far as I recall, he claimed that the split was 50/50.
Later on he begun to read some ultra nationalistic age old Serbian propaganda and started to claim that Macedonia is "South Serbia" and that half of present day Bulgaria is Serbian as well. He went on further to claim that Bulgarians are actually Serbs with Turkish admixtures.
After being presented with many different neutral sources over the years his views were continuously contradicted by actual scholars/authors/historians/travelers.
His inability to defend his moronic statements enraged him, and to help him cope with reality he started to spew hate on all things Bulgarian.
Though, it is not easy defending a lie.. which is why it's easy to make a fool out of him.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 28, 2011 5:24:04 GMT -5
Makedonia cannot be Bulgarian. Makedonia had a history prior to 1850, in contrast with Bulgaria ;D
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Post by ivo on Sept 28, 2011 8:13:45 GMT -5
Today, R. Macedonia is not Bulgarian. In the past, it was Bulgarian for centuries and the vast majority of its Slavic speaking population identified as ethnic Bulgarians until recently.
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Post by ioan on Sept 28, 2011 12:27:50 GMT -5
Makedonia cannot be Bulgarian. Makedonia had a history prior to 1850, in contrast with Bulgaria ;D What exactly do u mean Gyrro? You claim that Asparuch, Tervel, Terelig, Krum, Presian, Malamir, Boris, Simeon, Peter, Roman, Samuel, Ioan Radomir, Assen, Peter IV, Kaloyan, Boril, Ioan Assen II, Kaloman, Michael Shishman, Teodor Svetoslav, Smiletz, Kostantin Tikh Assen, Ivailo, Ioan Shishman and many other zars never ruled or what?
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Dec 14, 2011 15:10:59 GMT -5
Different characters., but I like them both.
I think both of them have dominant Turkic DNAs. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by elemag on Dec 14, 2011 17:02:44 GMT -5
Nah...you have Balkan ancestry coming from Bulgarian and Romania. May be that is the reason I have a soft spot for you, despite the tons of disagreements we had
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Post by Anittas on Dec 14, 2011 17:24:02 GMT -5
Less from Romania, because they very rarely recruited Janissaries there.
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Post by elemag on Dec 14, 2011 17:41:35 GMT -5
Which, in terms of Janny's claims, would mean that Romanian youth missed tons of chances to progress higher into Ottoman hierarchy.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 14, 2011 19:07:52 GMT -5
Indeed, they did. Apart from Radu that is, who was the lover of Mehmed II. I believe there was another, who converted to Islam and was given some title of governor (vizier?) in Bulgaria. Lolz, I'm not kidding you.
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Post by ivo on Dec 15, 2011 11:41:13 GMT -5
This is understandable. The 'Romanian' principalities were vassals, and as such, the full entities were in essence 'paid' Janissaries.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 15, 2011 13:57:47 GMT -5
This is understandable. The 'Romanian' principalities were vassals, and as such, the full entities were in essence 'paid' Janissaries. I have no idea what you're talking about. And no, not understanding what you're saying doesn't make me stupid. It makes you stupid.
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Post by ivo on Dec 15, 2011 14:41:15 GMT -5
I'm a dumbass, a moron, an idiot, stupid and whatever else I may have missed. Though the fact that I school you in every single discussion we have remains. All you've got is petty remarks and spelling corrections, usually hoping for some other retard (like Pazar) to throw you a bone of approval.
I've told you before.. don't kid yourself, you're an easy opponent.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 15, 2011 15:47:10 GMT -5
You are clueless on history, even though you try to act like an expert. Even if we ignore your foolish remarks a few years ago, where you admitted you were "green", this latest statement of yours shows that your knowledge is still not up to standard.
About your spelling: I just thought it was funny for a guy who can't spell to go around calling others for being semiliterate. I mean, you can't spell, you're not well-read--the only thing you do is running your mouth wild.
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Post by ivo on Dec 15, 2011 19:03:16 GMT -5
I'm well read on Macedonian history, that's all that matters. As for the rest, and this supposed "standard".. I've told you many times that unlike you, I don't see myself as an 'intellectual'. Even still, the fact remains; you get schooled by a "moron who can't spell".
The 'semi-literate' remark was a compliment.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 15, 2011 20:47:20 GMT -5
If you think that being well read on Macedonia history is all that matters (a retarded statement to make), then keep your comments to Macedonian history.
You are so stupid, Ivo. You don't 'school' anyone in this forum.
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Post by ivo on Dec 16, 2011 10:56:02 GMT -5
No no you've misunderstood again, as you often do.. not 'anyone', just you.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 16, 2011 12:33:13 GMT -5
What did I misunderstand? It seems that you're being misunderstood all the time. Ivo the genius, always misunderstood. You never care to elaborate, after you claim that you've been misunderstood. There was no misunderstanding. You just don't know what the heck you're talking about.
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