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Post by Sokol on Nov 8, 2011 19:10:39 GMT -5
Bizarre Flag-Hoisting Trial Launched Against Bulgarian in Serbia.
Novinite.com Diplomacy | November 7, 2011, Monday|
A Bulgarian has been called to a Serbian court for hoisting Bulgaria's national flag on March 3, Bulgaria's national holiday, in the Serbian town of Bosilegrad where he lives.
Ivan Nikolov, chair of the Culture and Information Center of the Bulgarians in Bosilegrad, is accused of violating the Law on the Use of the Flag, the Anthem and the Coat of arms of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, the Bulgarian nationalist VMRO party has alarmed.
Nikolov himself has sent a letter to Bulgarian media, expressing his dismay at the accusation. The Bulgarian national has stated he is disturbed by the fact that this is happening while "the relations between Bulgaria and Serbia are at their best," adding that Bulgaria fully backs Serbia's EU membership bid.
"The relations between two countries cannot be based on violating human and minority rights, which are fundamental European values," Nikolov has declared in his letter.
Nikolov has further pointed out that the accusation against him is based on a law that used to be active in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, a country that no longer exists. He has also claimed that the Serbian authorities are trying to put the Bulgarian cultural institution in Bosilegrad under pressure so that it would eventually shut down.
In February 2011, Serbian authorities obstructed the remembrance of Bulgarian national hero Vasil Levski by the Bulgarians in the so called Western Outlands – the Bulgarian-populated parts of Serbia – and mainly in Bosilegrad.
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Post by Moe Lester on Nov 9, 2011 0:03:05 GMT -5
People don't have freedoms in Serbia? Time for USandA to bring some then. ;D
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Post by Anittas on Nov 9, 2011 4:07:05 GMT -5
That guy should try the same thing in Romanian Dobrogea. There won't be a need for a court order.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 9, 2011 11:03:31 GMT -5
Ivan Nikolov, chair of the Culture and Information Center of the Bulgarians in Bosilegrad, is accused of violating the Law on the Use of the Flag, the Anthem and the Coat of arms of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, the Bulgarian nationalist VMRO party has alarmed. Exactly how old is this news?
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Post by Sokol on Nov 9, 2011 18:12:20 GMT -5
the news is current, the law is not;
the accusation against him is based on a law that used to be active in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, a country that no longer exists. He has also claimed that the Serbian authorities are trying to put the Bulgarian cultural institution in Bosilegrad under pressure so that it would eventually shut down.
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Post by ivo on Nov 10, 2011 1:00:24 GMT -5
The Serbian government has been suppressing its Bulgarian minority for a while, that's no secret. Greece has been doing the exact same thing, though I'm not quite sure what the situation is now. Romania has also done the same, but I'm not exactly sure what the situation is today.
Anyhow, all these 'suppression politics' have been employed in areas that had been unethically/underhandedly obtained from Bulgaria nearly a century ago. Their aim was to de-Bulgarize these regions.
The strategy was simple; drive as many of the locals out, assimilate those that remain and are prone to assimilation, and suppress the identity of those who still have a fight in 'em until they become more 'prone to assimilation'.
These type of politics have been at Serbia's forefront until very recently. For this particular situation, these politics were initiated by Serbia, and were later adopted and employed in Yugoslavia. And unfortunately, they've carried forward into the present day politics of the Republic of Macedonia.. which is why they now have issues with Greece and Bulgaria, resulting in debates regarding their misconstrued history.
It's all interconnected.
The irony is that the biggest friendship bond between two separate countries that ever existed in the Balkans, and still does today, was between Serbia and Greece.. ironically, it was Serbia's anti-Bulgarian politics that have resulted in the creation of the Ancient Macedonian identity of the country that Greece deems a thorn.
To an outsider the situation might even seem humorous, but really it's all very sad.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 10, 2011 1:48:53 GMT -5
The Serbian government has been suppressing its Bulgarian minority for a while, that's no secret. Greece has been doing the exact same thing, though I'm not quite sure what the situation is now. Romania has also done the same, but I'm not exactly sure what the situation is today. Anyhow, all these 'suppression politics' have been employed in areas that had been unethically/underhandedly obtained from Bulgaria nearly a century ago. Their aim was to de-Bulgarize these regions. The strategy was simple; drive as many of the locals out, assimilate those that remain and are prone to assimilation, and suppress the identity of those who still have a fight in 'em until they become more 'prone to assimilation'. These type of politics have been at Serbia's forefront until very recently. For this particular situation, these politics were initiated by Serbia, and were later adopted and employed in Yugoslavia. And unfortunately, they've carried forward into the present day politics of the Republic of Macedonia.. which is why they now have issues with Greece and Bulgaria, resulting in debates regarding their misconstrued history. It's all interconnected. The irony is that the biggest friendship bond between two separate countries that ever existed in the Balkans, and still does today, was between Serbia and Greece.. ironically, it was Serbia's anti-Bulgarian politics that have resulted in the creation of the Ancient Macedonian identity of the country that Greece deems a thorn. To an outsider the situation might even seem humorous, but really it's all very sad. +1
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Post by ivo on Nov 10, 2011 2:09:46 GMT -5
Lol. +1
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Post by Moe Lester on Nov 10, 2011 2:20:06 GMT -5
I heard of some Serb who was assimilated into Bulgarian culture in south-east Serbia. I think his name is now Vukov.
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Post by Anittas on Nov 10, 2011 6:29:41 GMT -5
The Serbian government has been suppressing its Bulgarian minority for a while, that's no secret. Greece has been doing the exact same thing, though I'm not quite sure what the situation is now. Romania has also done the same, but I'm not exactly sure what the situation is today. Anyhow, all these 'suppression politics' have been employed in areas that had been unethically/underhandedly obtained from Bulgaria nearly a century ago. Their aim was to de-Bulgarize these regions. The strategy was simple; drive as many of the locals out, assimilate those that remain and are prone to assimilation, and suppress the identity of those who still have a fight in 'em until they become more 'prone to assimilation'. These type of politics have been at Serbia's forefront until very recently. For this particular situation, these politics were initiated by Serbia, and were later adopted and employed in Yugoslavia. And unfortunately, they've carried forward into the present day politics of the Republic of Macedonia.. which is why they now have issues with Greece and Bulgaria, resulting in debates regarding their misconstrued history. It's all interconnected. The irony is that the biggest friendship bond between two separate countries that ever existed in the Balkans, and still does today, was between Serbia and Greece.. ironically, it was Serbia's anti-Bulgarian politics that have resulted in the creation of the Ancient Macedonian identity of the country that Greece deems a thorn. To an outsider the situation might even seem humorous, but really it's all very sad. I expect you to elaborate on your claim that Romania has supressed the Bulgarian minority. I expect you to know that the Bulgarian revolutionaries started their work in Romania.
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Post by ivo on Nov 10, 2011 10:07:18 GMT -5
Romania's suppression methods in comparison to what Serbia and Greece were doing, were child's play.. your politics were in no way as anti-Bulgarian as those of the other two countries.
And I will not elaborate, at least not at this time, as it would take me some time to locate the proper info.. and at the moment I'm already pre-occupied with learning about Romania's historic achievements, I also need to compile a similar list for Bulgaria as you requested, I'm anticipating a proper debate on Macedonia's historic identity with Pazar, and might potentially need to defend against some sort of potential instigation thread from Chentovist about the Bulgarian historic identity. I would like to elaborate, but this is not at the top of my priority list at the moment.
The anti-Ottoman Bulgarian revolutionary movement organized themselves in Southern Romania, this is true. Many famous Bulgarian patriots prepared in Romania prior to their attacks on the Ottomans.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 18, 2011 2:45:16 GMT -5
Chento, the BuLgari are not to be trusted, their Ataka (Attack) party has openly advocated on returing lost BuLgarski terrority, like the Western Outlands, for instance. I want you to do some research on this grusome party.
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Post by ivo on Nov 18, 2011 11:40:11 GMT -5
What you speak of does not necessarily regard Macedonia, it regards Serbia.
The argument is that the Western Outlands were taken from Bulgaria and given to Yugoslavia to serve as a buffer zone, but since Yugoslavia is an entity that no longer exists, that land does not rightfully belong to Serbia.
Even though Strumica (located in the Republic of Macedonia) is a part of the Western Outlands, it should remain where it is as Macedonians have equal claims to that land.. Serbia is a different story.
And realistically, no one is even looking to take the Western Outlands back. All we want is equal rights for the Bulgarians that live there.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 22, 2011 14:21:43 GMT -5
God forbid this Bulgarian fella have a tattoo of Bulgarian flag and hit a health club or a pool/beach in Serbia
we were young kids and then teenagers and they would stare at are tiny little Albanian 2 headed eagle around our fake gold chains at Belgrade airport ...same in Macedonia ....talk about losing your luggage or being left at airport bcs they had you wait in office so you miss your flight on purpose ......
now we just avoid Belgrade and land in anywhere but ,and that's why their airport has less traffic the last 3 decades
in 1977-78 one of my older cousins went on his first trip back to Macedonia he hit the beach ...he had an Alb tat on his shoulder ....the police came .....
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Post by uz on Dec 22, 2011 14:30:12 GMT -5
You got bothered at Belgrade airport just b/c you were Albanian? That's some raw-bullshit.
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Dec 22, 2011 14:30:36 GMT -5
Leaders of Romanian community in Serbia, hunted with firearmsExtremely serious anti-Romanian incidents happened in Serbia. Two of the leaders of Romanian communities in Timoc Valley and Vojvodina were the targets of armed attacks only a few hours apart, Adevarul writes. Yet unidentified individuals fired several times on the two leaders’ houses, sending a very clear message: “If you don’t calm down, next time we will shoot to kill.” Until not long ago, anti-Romanian actions in Serbia consisted only of blackmailing, harassment or abusive investigations, but now Romanians are now hunted with firearms. On the evening of December 19, somebody opened fire on the house of Dragoslav Mariacic, head of the Democrat Party of Romanians in Serbia (PDRS), in Spicova, and member of Zajecar Local Council (Timoc Valley). A bullet broke one of the windows and hit a wall. Fortunately, Mariacic and his family were not at home at the moment. Police were called to the scene but it’s very unlikely that the investigation will find those guilty. “This is a threat and an intimidation of our community. There have been such events in Spicova this year. In the spring, the authorities tried to bring down the Romanian bell tower in the locality,” PDRS president Predrag Balasevic told Adevarul. A similar incident happened in Vojvodina only a few hours leader. On the night of December 19 going into December 20, the house of the Romanian mayor of Jankov Most, Viorel Bescu, was attacked with firearms. Besu is not only mayor of the locality, but also president of the Romanian Alliance in Vojvodina. Around 2 am, he was woken up by several shots fired. A total of nine bullets were fired at the house, piercing the walls and furniture in a room. Besu called the police, which triggered an investigation in the case. “The situation is very tense, it’s obvious somebody wants to scare us. We shouldn’t have got here, someone to fire at us. The authorities are not saying anything and neither is the press. No Serbian journalist reported the events,” said Dusan Prvulovic, head of the Committee for Human Rights – Negotin branch. The incidents follow the official visit to Belgrade of President Traian Basescu in Nocember. During meetings with Serbian officials, Basescu again brought up the situation of the Romanian community in Timoc. www.bucharestherald.ro/dailyevents/41-dailyevents/28806-leaders-of-romanian-community-in-serbia-hunted-with-firearms
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Post by uz on Dec 22, 2011 14:35:26 GMT -5
why don't you post an article with more credibility... bucharest herald.ro LOL
I thought you were the expert in citing sources, seems that p**y is too far up your skirt.
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Post by punisher on Dec 22, 2011 14:38:53 GMT -5
why don't you post an article with more credibility... bucharest herald.ro LOL I thought you were the expect in citing sources, seems that p**y is too far up your skirt. the point is that serbs aren't able to live with nonserbs you ain't hearing anything about serbs in prishtina or anywhere else being chased with guns and don't bring mitrovica up bcs that's your own fault you're killing the innoncent albanians there.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 22, 2011 14:39:45 GMT -5
You got bothered at Belgrade airport just b/c you were Albanian? That's some raw-bulls**t. uz how old are you .....? it was a coin toss in Belgrade for Albanians ...the employees in baggage would damage and steal out of suitcases if there was an Albanian name on the tag ...horror stories galore ...jat airlines couldn't even get simple proper service if Albanian they would ignore you for a glass of water for you grandmother your not alb ..how would you know anyways .... what if I tell you I was on a bus from Shkup Macedonia too Pristina Kosova ..last bus in the evening and 2 serbian police threw out of the bus in the middle of nowhere no lights no nothing two old people man and wife in their 70 years of age just for conversing among themselves in Albanian I WAS ON THAT BUS .....I WAS APPALED -1986- only 4-5 of us on the bus ...couldn't get nobody involve to throw the police off the bus and take their guns and uniform ....they got off in Pristina ....the terminal was in closing up mode found a guy that worked the window and explained to him what happened he told me dont bother with it .....it no use I and a cousin took a cab and back tracked 1 hr plus and did not find them on the road ...figured somebody else picked them up what do you know
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Post by punisher on Dec 22, 2011 14:42:13 GMT -5
rexy he just likes to talk sh*t,his city hasn't been burned to the ground just bcs you were albanian
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