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Post by ivo on Nov 18, 2011 15:43:34 GMT -5
Hehe. I have something else going that will require 100%, so unless there are some extreme provocations posted on here I'm probably going to keep it steady at this level.. seems to be getting the job done. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all unravels. The sheer injustices that have been done to Bulgaria and the Bulgarian people by either outsiders or "Bulgarians" are enough to keep the fight going simply because the way things are these days just ain't right. And the memory of those who have given their lives for our freedom must be preserved and promoted accurately for all to see. Bulgaria has nothing to hide. Our hands are clean, the blood is on the hands of our neighbors. The truth must come back to the forefront so that future generations of Bulgarians know that the only thing our people need is to stick together. We can fix all of our problems ourselves, and we can sure as hell still do more than just that. All we need is to follow our national motto, and it everything will be fine. As for all the mice reading this, have yourselves a blast while it lasts.. the tables will turn again, such is the way of life.
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Post by Anittas on Nov 18, 2011 15:51:59 GMT -5
"And the memory of those who have given their lives for our freedom must be preserved and promoted accurately for all to see."
This I agree with. Some 40,000 Russiand and Romanians died at the siege of Plevna alone.
"Bulgaria has nothing to hide. Our hands are clean, the blood is on the hands of our neighbors."
Indeed, they are clean, since you didn't fight for your freedom. Your neighbors did.
Now quit patting each other on the back. No one forced you to post fairytales citations. It's incredible that you're proud even of that which is false.
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Post by ivo on Nov 18, 2011 16:18:02 GMT -5
When one fights for a just cause, and the targets are proper, not even a ton of blood will stain such hands.
Bulgaria has a long history of military achievements, often fighting as the underdog and achieving unheard of victories. My people have killed, but we've killed justly. There are two possible events that could be brought up to stain our history, but Bulgaria can righteously only take blame for one of those.
In recent history all involvement from the Bulgarian side has been in defense of that which is rightfully ours.
But then again, you've missed the point of my post yet again.. which is great, because the only part that was intended for people like you was the last sentence.
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Post by Anittas on Nov 18, 2011 16:31:29 GMT -5
"the tables will turn again, such is the way of life"
Yeah, whatcha gonna do? You gonna become a terrorist and blow yourself up? You gonna lead your armies to Bucharest? I thought you said Bulgaria had no designs for Romanian soil. Changed your mind, already?
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Post by ioan on Nov 19, 2011 3:00:39 GMT -5
Ivo great thoughts as always. I totally agree with you.
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Post by ivo on Nov 19, 2011 9:23:44 GMT -5
Lol. You're mind is so linear, no creativity whatsoever.. it's down right flat.
Bulgaria does not need this type of conflict, nor does anyone want it; it would be stupid to engage in anything of the sort as it's a different game these days.
If you think that the only way to resolve a problem is by "blowing yourself up" or by "marching on another country" then even though you may be well read you're very far from intelligent thought.
It's funny 'cuz you're probably old enough to be my father, yet you rationalize as if a child. Ironically you've kept the bad traits of inexperience, which can only lead me to believe that you don't learn from your mistakes.. and you've lost the good, most notably imagination.
You think too highly of yourself, but this doesn't seem to have been deserved.
You're an easy opponent Anittas, don't fool yourself thinking otherwise.
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Post by Anittas on Nov 19, 2011 11:19:16 GMT -5
Old enough to be your daddy? Just how old are you?
And what kind of problem do you speak of? What needs solving?
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Post by Anittas on Nov 19, 2011 12:09:48 GMT -5
Lol. You're [Your] mind is so linear, no creativity whatsoever..[...] it's down right [downright] flat.
Bulgaria does not [doesn't] need this type of conflict, nor does anyone want it; it would be stupid to engage in anything of the sort as it's a different game these days.
If you think that the only way to resolve a problem is by "blowing yourself up"[blowing yourself up (don't quote when you're paraphrasing)] or by "marching on another country"[,][marching on another country (don't quote when you're paraphrasing)] then even though you may be well read[,] you're very far from [being] intelligent thought.
It's funny 'cuz you're probably old enough to be my father, yet you rationalize as if a child. Ironically you've kept the bad traits of inexperience, which can only lead me to believe that you don't learn from your mistakes..[...] and you've lost the good [qualities], most notably [your] imagination.
You think too highly of yourself, but this doesn't seem to have been deserved.
You're an easy opponent[,] Anittas, don't fool yourself thinking otherwise.
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Post by ivo on Nov 19, 2011 17:26:51 GMT -5
Don't you worry your pretty little head about it.
As for your alterations to my text, I appreciate your effort, but I prefer it my way.
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Post by Anittas on Nov 19, 2011 18:04:23 GMT -5
I worry. I can't help it. So tell me. How's a loser from Canada gonna bring Bulgaria back to its former glory? How are you gonna retake Dobrogea from Romania?
Oh, and apart from making a correct guess that you were Kotrag, I also think you were that punkass kid, Kubrat. You seem to like adopting the names of Bulgarian Kings (Kubrat, Kotrag, Asen--the last one being Romanian).
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Post by ivo on Nov 19, 2011 18:29:28 GMT -5
You think you know it all, and that alone proves that you actually know very little. All it takes is for someone to push the snowball.
Years ago I wrote under the name Kotrag, Kubrat was not me.
Now go back to your mundane life.
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Post by Anittas on Nov 19, 2011 18:47:57 GMT -5
If I thought I knew it all, I wouldn't be asking you questions. So what's the master plan? How are you going to elevate Bulgaria's status as an European power once more? You seem to be just as dellusional as another nutcase on this forum, who thinks he's some kind of Serb Messiah. Great, I say. Now we also have a Bulgarian Messiah. Lolz.
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Post by ivo on Nov 20, 2011 1:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 22, 2011 6:40:35 GMT -5
"Ivo you ve pushed yourself enough trying to proove with quotes from different authors/sources that morons like Novi are wrong."
"Also I can not remember the countless times you caught Novi misquoting authors/sources."
Ioan, have l ever MANIPULATED sources, no, have l been truthful, YES!
As for misquoting authors and sources, its you Bulgarians who cannot swallow points that for instance Brailsford was writting about the obvious situation on the ground. For instance, yes he was a pro-bulgarian, but sometimes you cannot hide all truth, he admitted that the hardships the Greeks, Serbs and Turks felt on their backs in Vardar were caused by Bulgarian tyranny etc......
PS Jordan Ivanov the Bulgarian chief on all matters in Vardar only found a couple of quotes prior to the work of the satanic exarchos (1872) in which the name Bulgaria was used, so if you guys can miraculously come up with more than him, then l'll be damned.
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Post by ivo on Nov 22, 2011 15:33:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry to tell you, but Serbs, Greeks, and Turks have no rightful claim to anything in Vardar Macedonia. And it was they who oppressed the local populations, who in turn sought refuge in Bulgaria.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 23, 2011 6:28:08 GMT -5
^ Serbs never had a serbian exarchos operating there!
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Post by ioan on Nov 23, 2011 9:44:14 GMT -5
What did Kiril Zivkovich identify as 110 years before the Exarchate? What did Paisii Hilendarski indentify as 120 years before the Exarchate? What did Ioan Vladislav identify as 1000 years before the Exarchate? ? And the list goes on...
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Post by elemag on Nov 27, 2011 9:01:18 GMT -5
You are damned. This unbelievable stupidity of yours is a damnation.
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Post by eolian on Mar 5, 2017 13:39:40 GMT -5
Most of those citations are pure bullshyt bullshit, especially this one: Who is this guy? What is his full name? I googled his name and his citation and got 3 results. You call this academical research? Until this source is verified, it is invalid. This guy is Ovid Densuşianu, . Histoire de la langue roumaine. So first learn to research properly, then argue.Congratulation on misspelling the word philosophy. Now can you tell me where you found this quote? The source that you point to, namely Voltaire's Philosophical Dictionary, mentions none of the things said in your citation. I googled the citation given by you and it resulted in ... er ... 4 results--all of which were posted on forums: one of these forums is Stormfront, the other Illyria (also posted by you - illyria.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=jugoslavijayugoslavia&action=display&thread=27849&page=3). I suppose with this post, it makes it five. Now, I went to research on what Voltaire did say about your people, and this is what I found: Voltaire said much more than that, but I guess citing selectively is your strong suit.Link: ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/v/voltaire/dictionary/chapter97.htmlNote: I also searched for "Flanders" and found nothing. What do you mean you found nothing about Flanders?! The same for this supposed French description "un bon bulgar". If you google the latter, you will find in the book translated from ancient Armenian to Bulgarian, results posted on forums: most of them in Bulgarian. I find it difficult in finding academical sources to this mysterious "Prof. Geza Fecher". Fehér Géza is Hungarian archaeologist who works in Bulgaria between 1922-44 and is a member of the Bulgarian Science academy and Bulgarian archeologists. The same goes for "Hugas Indejedijan" (7 results), The Armenian traveller notes on Balkans you can read translated in Bulgarian from ancient Armenian : www.knijarnitzabg.com/chuzhdi-patepisi-za-balkanite-tom-5-armenski-patepisi-za-balkanite-xvii-xix-vek-sbornik, if not you can read it in original Armenian. As to why you cannot find on Google, it is because is a collection of travelogues by Armenian authors of the Balkans for the period XVII - XIX century. The in depth research is not just reading articles on Google you know Abu Hamid al Aldalusi (10 results). Also known as Abu Hamid Al-Garnati www.medievalnubia.info/dev/index.php/Abu_Hamid_al-Andalusi and another link to his works: archive.aramcoworld.com/issue/201502/travelers.of.al-andalus.part.ii.abu.hamid.al-garnati.s.world.of.wonders.htm
So all the authors are real people, as for the quotes, it takes enormous effort, enthusiasm and will to go through the massive amount of work in order to collect and synthesise information and data from foreign travellers and researchers. The people who did the research had collected the quotes and dismissing them by simply googling an information which may not even be translated or digitized for your convenience suggest shallowness and stupidity. Firstly to be taken seriously refine your research methods and dig deeper. No offence.My guess is that you found these citations on some forum and thought to yourself that you'd show us what your people are made of: and you have shown us--you are LIARS.
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