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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 25, 2011 16:46:50 GMT -5
Pyros how would one explain the CCCC existing (being a supposed Serb symbol forever) prior to the Ciliric alphabet? That's one of the many errors Jovan Deretic makes. |
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Post by uz on Dec 25, 2011 16:48:20 GMT -5
^ or maybe the CCCC means something completely different, and Serbs later with ciliric defined the "C" symbols with the text ...
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Post by srbsoul on Dec 25, 2011 17:43:45 GMT -5
I've only found one instance of something similar to "Srbina" in that sanskrit text; "Srbinda", which is the name of an ancient Aryan demon or means "the demon withholding the waters". Incorrect. You are using a foreign translation to the term Srbinda, I am using the original translation used at the time. I have no motive to lie and to spread lies, I am not even Serbian by blood, or Balkan at all only my soul. |
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Post by srbsoul on Dec 25, 2011 17:44:20 GMT -5
"The ancestors of the Slavs came from the Danube Basin into the land of Novgorod."
The Holy Nestor of Kiev
10 century A.D
"The Serbs are such a large nation that all Slavs came from them"
Bavarian geographer Jordanes.
Gothic Chronicles
6th Century A.D
The descendants of the original Dinaric Serbs (proto-Slavs) can still be found outside the Balkans in parts of coastal Ukraine and the Czech and Slovak lands and Parts of south Poland where they are assimilated into these nations.
Croats (Hrvati) are Serbs (Srbi) with the morphology of the name having been changed (Srb = Srv = Shrv = HrV-at with the Avaric addition of "at" signifying a member of a tribe). Avars were a sustantial portion of the Croat population Even Noel Malcolm has asserted the possibility of this theory on the Croat name in his book on Bosnia.
SLOVENES are descendants of original Serbs but mostly, in the case of Neo-Danubian Slovenes, descendants of Serbianized Central European Natives.
Much is the same for Belorussians, non-Black Sea shore Ukrainians and most Russians from northern European Russia. These are peoples who adopted "Slavic characteristics" from the Serb population which migrated north from the original Homeland in modern Serbia-Montenegro. Illyrians and Thracians are just Latinized and Hellenized names of SERBS.
A Byzantin Historian also confirms this; Laonicus Chalcondyles, says; "Serbs, as a people, are the absolute oldest people. Serbs, Illyrians, Poles, Russians Sarmatians, and Veneti are one people, and they all speak the same language."
THRACE = THRAKIA (in Greek) = RASHKA (name of the Serb state, early under Nemanyich rule). Rashka is also the name of a river in the region of Serbia which still bears the name Rashka today.
RASHKA is also the root form of Russia. Rashka was also called Rasiya and it is from her that today we have the glorious name Rossiya! Magyars still to this day call Serbs: "Rasi".
RASHKI is also the Georgian name for the river Volga and in the Avaro-LEZGIAN tongue, "Serb" means "Man". Just proof of the extent to which Serb proto-Slav influence stood.
---The cities "Srb" in Thessaly from before 6 AD and the
city "Sirb" in eastern Anatolia are remnants of the Serb Aryan migrations.
---The name SERB comes from the word "Sar" meaning
"king" in proto-Indo-European, and it is this word that is the likely root of the title: "Tsar" and the
English: "Sir".
IMPORTANT NOTE; There are more than 300 names of cities and towns in the Slavic world that begin with the root word "SRB" in one variation or another.
By the 6th century AD, with the opression of Germanic tribes, the Serbicized northern European peoples migrated and had taken up a new name and amongst themselves to differentiate their kind from the germanic opressors: "Slovyani" from the verb "slovit" to speak. The Serb name still existed and was used alongside and in no way in opposition to the name
"Slav". Serbs were losing their name though, to be replaced by the common name "Slav".
The rest is history. East and West Slavs allied themselves with various mongoloid and Germanic tribes and a process of Slavic disintigration occured:
1.Prussians (originally Slavs) were Germanized.
2.Pannonian Slavs fell under the Madjars.
3.Slavs of modern Romania were latinized.
4.Slavs of Dalmatia are latinized.
5.Slavs of Macedonia and Thrace fall under Bulgars.
Serbia, Moravia and Poland rise with the original proto-Slav SERB Dinaric rulling class still intact. The Serb tribe "Rosi" (or Rasi-from Rashka, one of the tribes from the original migration of proto-Slav Serbs from the Balkans) was overrun by Germanic barbarians and became the Ruusi Vikings of Nestor's Chronicles and thus the Russian state was born.
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Post by srbsoul on Dec 25, 2011 18:55:24 GMT -5
Some of the locations and examples of where Serbian Toponyms are found.
•Belarus
Serebrishche/Serebryanka/Serebryanka/Serebryanka
•Bosnia and Herzegovina
Srbac/Srbinje/Srbljani/Srbljanska Glavica/Srbobran/Srb/Srpac/Srpak/Srpska Grabska/Srpska Rije¡ica/Srpska Zelinja/Srpska/Srpske Dubravice/Srpski Lukavac/Srpsko Glinje/
•Bulgaria
Serbegli/Serbenica/Serblyane/Serbniza/Srbenica/Srebrena Gora/Srebren/Srebrinovo/Srebrino
•Croatia
Serbignaco/Srbinjak/Srbski Klanac/Srb
•Czech Republic
Sebranice/Sebranice/Sebranitz/Sirbin/Sirbitz/Sirb/Srbce/Srbce/Srbetsch/Srbe/Srbice/Srbice/Srbice/Srbice/Srbsko/Srbská Kamenice/Srbská/Srby/Srbín
•Lithuania
Serbentai/Serbenty/Serbinai/Serbinay/Serbiny/Sirbishkyay/Sruby/Sarbori
•Poland
Serbinów/Serby/Srebnica/Serbów/Serebryszcze/Sierbowce/Sierbowice/Sierbuczyn/Sierbowice/Srebnica
•Russia
Serebryakova/Serebryakovka/Serebryakovo/Serebryakovskaya/Serebryakovskiy/Serebryakov/Serebryakoyka/Serebryanaya/Serebryaniki/Serebryanitsa/Serebryanka
•Ukraine
Serbanovka/Serbenovka/Serbichany/Serbichen/Serbinovka/Serbinovtsy/Serbinov/Serbin/Serbinovka/Serbka/Serbo/Slobodka/Serbovka/Serbulovskiy/Soldatskiy/Serby
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France
Servais/Serval/Servanin/Servas/Servaville/Servaville-Salmonville/Serverette/Serves-sur-Rhône/Servian/Servieres/Servieres-le-Chateau/Serviers/Serviers-et-Labaume/Servigney/Servigny
Italy
Servillo/Servola/Serbariu di Sopra/Serbariu/Servagno/Servigliano
Spain
Servián/Servoy/Serviz Barrio/Serviz/Servillejas/Servillas/Serveto/Servei D'Evacuació Del Circuit De Catalunya Heliport/Servainza
Turkey
Servan/Servetkoy/Servi/Serviler/Servili
And a number of other examples.
Aleksandrovac
Babina Poljana
Bela Reka
Beli Breg
Belo Polje
Brezovica
Buštranje
Crna Bara
Crvenka
Dobri Do
Glina
Glogovac
Gračanica
Gradište
Kolovrat
Lesnik
Lipovica
Ljutice
Mitrovica
Novo Selo
Ostrovo
Raška
Rudnica
Rudnik
Subotica
Šumice
Topolovac
Trnava
Vojnik
Vojvodina
Vrba
Ćurkovica
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Post by srbsoul on Dec 25, 2011 18:56:27 GMT -5
List of the Magyarized place names of Serbian origin :
Bavaniste - Homokbálványos - Bavanište
Czrepaja - Cserépalja - Crepaja
Dobricza - Kevedobra - Dobrica
Dubovácz - Dunadombó - Dubovac
Homolicz - Omlód - Homoljica
Idvor - Torontáludvar - Idvor
Jabuka - Torontalalmas - Jabuka
Jarkovácz - Árkod - Jarkovac
Meszics - Meszesfalu - Mesiæ
Mramorák - Homokos - Mramorak
Nagy-Szredistye - Nagyszered - Veliko Središte
Orlovát - Orlód - Orlovat
Osztrova - Temessziget - Ostrovo
Ovcsa - Bárányos - Ovèa
Padina - Nagylajosfalva - Padina
Plosicz - Kevepallós - Ploèica
Strázsa - Temesõr - Straža
Sztárcsova - Tárcsó - Starèevo
Uzdin - Újozora - Uzdin
Verbicza - Egyházaskér - Vrbica
Vracsevgáj - Varázsliget - Vraèev Gaj
Zagaicze - Fürjes - Zagajica
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Post by srbsoul on Dec 25, 2011 19:23:56 GMT -5
There is evidence all over Albania which prove that the Serbs were the first to settle those lands. Everyone knows that the Albanian people come from the Caucuses and that their culture is a fabrication, being influenced by EACH of their neighbours, mainly the Serbs. The Albanian authorities are doing all they can to remove all the original inscriptions directly attaching the indigenous peoples to the Serbs. Serb names all over.  Stay tuned for more to come. |
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Post by najpos on Dec 25, 2011 19:30:18 GMT -5
srbsoul, do not stop with your research. power flows from inside the serb soul. LOVE flows from inside the Serb soul. currently there is an effort attributing to albanians any slav-related toponym in southern greece... a stupid trick which will not work... we will crush them all like peanuts Pyros how would one explain the CCCC existing (being a supposed Serb symbol forever) prior to the Ciliric alphabet? It hasn't been a Serb symbol forever. The Serbs adopted it from the Byzantine lordship's motto "Basileus Basileon Basileuon Basileuonton/Basileusi" meaning "King of Kings, ruling over Kings". The Serbs took it and rendered it into CCCC and they took along with them the Byzantine coat of arms. The original:  |
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Post by uz on Dec 25, 2011 19:38:23 GMT -5
^ No kiddin eh ... Did you wikipedia that all yourself?
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Post by najpos on Dec 25, 2011 20:06:30 GMT -5
^ No kiddin eh ... Did you wikipedia that all yourself? What's the matter Uz? Since you can't argue against you retort to insults with the intention of belittling? I'm surprised, I wouldn't have thought that the great intellectual of this forum would stoop to that level. I certainly expected more from you. I'm taking it that you accept that it's not an ancient Serb symbol and that it has its thanks to the Byzantines.  |
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Post by uz on Dec 25, 2011 20:13:53 GMT -5
^ No kiddin eh ... Did you wikipedia that all yourself? What's the matter Uz? Since you can't argue against you retort to insults with the intention of belittling? I'm surprised, I wouldn't have thought that the great intellectual of this forum would stoop to that level. I certainly expected more from you. I'm taking it that you accept that it's not an ancient Serb symbol and that it has its thanks to the Byzantines. What do you mean what's the matter... What Serb wouldn't know that the BBBB crest was first used, prior to the later Serb one, CCCC. The srb is obviously takling about this in a complete different level, so you can relax now. and please, your flag is of the "hero-family" of "your" people, an apparent Christian hero to a vastly Isamic majority of a country. Also who happens to be part Serb and a scam. So wtf... |
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Post by najpos on Dec 25, 2011 20:34:37 GMT -5
What's the matter Uz? Since you can't argue against you retort to insults with the intention of belittling? I'm surprised, I wouldn't have thought that the great intellectual of this forum would stoop to that level. I certainly expected more from you. I'm taking it that you accept that it's not an ancient Serb symbol and that it has its thanks to the Byzantines. What do you mean what's the matter... What Serb wouldn't know that the BBBB crest was first used, prior to the later Serb one, CCCC. The srb is obviously takling about this in a complete different level, so you can relax now. and please, your flag is of the "hero-family" of "your" people, an apparent Christian hero to a vastly Isamic majority of a country. Also who happens to be part Serb and a scam. So wtf... If it was introduced to the Serbs through the Byzantines then that would mean that it's not an ancient Serb symbol as Srbsoul is trying to prove. Yes, our national flag originates from the Byzantine coat of arms. Have I said otherwise? Skanderbeg was a Catholic in a now majority Muslim country, yet not part Serb, neither was he a scam. This post has the same womanly characteristic that your other post has, Uz. You're saying that I'm somehow a hypocrite of sorts, even though I never said something that could have made me a hypocrite. At the same time you insult and your replies are non-sequiturs. Typical behaviour of a woman. |
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Post by uz on Dec 25, 2011 20:43:21 GMT -5
What do you mean what's the matter... What Serb wouldn't know that the BBBB crest was first used, prior to the later Serb one, CCCC. The srb is obviously takling about this in a complete different level, so you can relax now. and please, your flag is of the "hero-family" of "your" people, an apparent Christian hero to a vastly Isamic majority of a country. Also who happens to be part Serb and a scam. So wtf... If it was introduced to the Serbs through the Byzantines then that would mean that it's not an ancient Serb symbol as Srbsoul is trying to prove. Yes, our national flag originates from the Byzantine coat of arms. Have I said otherwise? Skanderbeg was a Catholic in a now majority Muslim country, yet not part Serb, neither was he a scam. This post has the same womanly characteristic that your other post has, Uz. You're saying that I'm somehow a hypocrite of sorts, even though I never said something that could have made me a hypocrite. At the same time you insult and your replies are non-sequiturs. Typical behaviour of a woman. Actually the women tend to analyse behaviour to the degree you are tonight unfolding . You know... to try to seem ahead/smart, and think to themselves.. "I've got this guy figured out" , when in reality they really have no clue and probably being laughed at by onlookers behind their back. Typical woman behaviour indeed  |
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Post by najpos on Dec 25, 2011 21:13:02 GMT -5
If it was introduced to the Serbs through the Byzantines then that would mean that it's not an ancient Serb symbol as Srbsoul is trying to prove. Yes, our national flag originates from the Byzantine coat of arms. Have I said otherwise? Skanderbeg was a Catholic in a now majority Muslim country, yet not part Serb, neither was he a scam. This post has the same womanly characteristic that your other post has, Uz. You're saying that I'm somehow a hypocrite of sorts, even though I never said something that could have made me a hypocrite. At the same time you insult and your replies are non-sequiturs. Typical behaviour of a woman. Actually the women tend to analyse behaviour to the degree you are tonight unfolding . You know... to try to seem ahead/smart, and think to themselves.. "I've got this guy figured out" , when in reality they really have no clue and probably being laughed at by onlookers behind their back. Typical woman behaviour indeed Psychoanalysing isn't very womanlike, it doesn't fit their emotional and often irrational personalities. Btw, there's still something feminine about what you write. This time it's the emotional and feminine "you think you know, but you don't". |
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Post by uz on Dec 25, 2011 22:12:43 GMT -5
LOL ... that's not what I said, and what does that say about you while imagining such things.
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Post by najpos on Dec 26, 2011 0:08:57 GMT -5
LOL ... that's not what I said, and what does that say about you while imagining such things. You didn't say what? That psychoanalysis is womanlike or that while I think this and that, it's not like that, and you showed me? You did say that, and you're wrong. |
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Post by elemag on Dec 26, 2011 4:45:23 GMT -5
That's total BS. All these names come from the word 'srebro', which means silver, not Serb.
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 26, 2011 5:26:55 GMT -5
Incorrect. You are using a foreign translation to the term Srbinda, I am using the original translation used at the time. How would you know what the original translation was. "Srbinda" was used to describe demonic people and creatures. |
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 26, 2011 5:45:51 GMT -5
FranceServais/Serval/Servanin/Servas/Servaville/Servaville-Salmonville/Serverette/Serves-sur-Rhône/Servian/Servieres/Servieres-le-Chateau/Serviers/Serviers-et-Labaume/Servigney/Servigny ItalyServillo/Servola/Serbariu di Sopra/Serbariu/Servagno/Servigliano SpainServián/Servoy/Serviz Barrio/Serviz/Servillejas/Servillas/Serveto/Servei D'Evacuació Del Circuit De Catalunya Heliport/Servainza These are not derived from "Serb", they're derived from word "Servir" ("to serve" or "to be useful", in French language) and are the names of communes because people worked at these communes (historically). You should learn the origins of these names before you copy and paste Deretic's work on the internet for everyone to see. |
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Post by rex362 on Dec 26, 2011 9:37:40 GMT -5
seek Scythia for your antiquity .....
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