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Post by aussie75 on Oct 12, 2014 8:00:21 GMT -5
^ lol! Okay. Heard of the Vincans, they are the aryans and they are the mother of Slavs!
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Post by Jon Do on Oct 13, 2014 10:01:32 GMT -5
^ lol! Okay. Heard of the Vincans, they are the aryans and they are the mother of Slavs! No they're not. Slavs do not come from the Vincans, that would counter claim everything we know today about Slavic migrations and there's no evidence to support that. I would argue many Serbs comes from the Vincan lineage, as oppose to Slavic. The Slavic culture started to penetrate Balkan in the 4th Century, this doesn't mean we weren't there already. We have to understand that the Vincans were a large and prosperous people, enormous in numbers too with agricultural capabilities that even exceeded their needs - they did not just disappear, and they're high density spots was all over today-Serbia. The Ayrans do not come from Europe, and certainly not Balkan so that doesn't make sense either. |
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Post by rex362 on Oct 13, 2014 13:00:30 GMT -5
^ lol! Okay. Heard of the Vincans, they are the aryans and they are the mother of Slavs! AHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAH AHHAHHAHHAHHAAHAAHHAH AAHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHA HAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA AHHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAH AHHAHHAHHAHHAAHAAHHAH AAHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHA HAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA and ......AHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHAAHHA |
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Post by geticusultra on Oct 13, 2014 18:13:57 GMT -5
Man, i've read some theories here that are so twisted by self-interest not even the most extremist "historian" in Romania can imagine. I see this is a forum where slavic history is glorfied to the point of ridiculousness. First of all, when you talk about your nations ancient history you need to make a difference between your history as thraco-ilirians or slavs. You can't mix them, they have absolutely no connection until 6-7th century. As thraco-ilirians we share the same blood, romanians, serbians, bulgarians, albanians, macedonians, etc. If you look here you'll see that in Balkans the R1a, slavic peoples, are usually under 20 percents in any country. Most of the peoples in the south-eastern Europe are thraco-ilirians until today! www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtmlThe language shows us only the identity asumed by a certain group of peoples, not their entire origin. Romanians speak a latin language, serbs speak a slavic language, but both are thraco-ilirians plus 15-17 percent of slavs. It's the same with bulgarians, etc. Yugoslavia was buit by glorifying the slavic ties between nations and ended in blood. Russians are 46 percents slavs, poles 57%, ucrainians 46%, belarus 51%, while romanians 17%, serbs 16% bulgarians 17%. macedonians 13%. It's a very big difference, and it's completely natural because let's not forget, the Balkans were always highly populated. The pan-slavism is dead, and it was killed by communist, because of their opressive sistem. We will be soon all part of the EU union, and we must cooperate if we don't want to be just some colonies for westerners. We already can see how badly romanians and bulgarians are denigrated in western newpapers, called invaders, thieves and inferior peoples, while they are being under-paid and mistreated. And russians are no better, not even the ucrainians don't like them anymore. The thraco-ilirian origins must be placed on the first place, not slavic or romanic, because this is a racial economic contest between different parts of Europe, the westerners, celts -R1B, the easterners, slavs R1a, the nords, I1, and us, I2+E1b1. And in between are the outlanders, the mongolo-siberians consisting in slavs, germanics and thraco-dacians magyarized. |
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Post by rex362 on Oct 13, 2014 18:32:00 GMT -5
Thats why I am here ....to keep them from high-fiving each other into endless stupidity  and welcome to the forum ..... |
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Post by aussie75 on Oct 13, 2014 19:00:19 GMT -5
^ lol! Okay. Heard of the Vincans, they are the aryans and they are the mother of Slavs! No they're not. Slavs do not come from the Vincans, that would counter claim everything we know today about Slavic migrations and there's no evidence to support that. I would argue many Serbs comes from the Vincan lineage, as oppose to Slavic. The Slavic culture started to penetrate Balkan in the 4th Century, this doesn't mean we weren't there already. We have to understand that the Vincans were a large and prosperous people, enormous in numbers too with agricultural capabilities that even exceeded their needs - they did not just disappear, and they're high density spots was all over today-Serbia. The Ayrans do not come from Europe, and certainly not Balkan so that doesn't make sense either. So where do Slavs originate from UZ? |
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Post by rex362 on Oct 13, 2014 19:05:05 GMT -5
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Post by Jon Do on Oct 13, 2014 20:50:41 GMT -5
No they're not. Slavs do not come from the Vincans, that would counter claim everything we know today about Slavic migrations and there's no evidence to support that. I would argue many Serbs comes from the Vincan lineage, as oppose to Slavic. The Slavic culture started to penetrate Balkan in the 4th Century, this doesn't mean we weren't there already. We have to understand that the Vincans were a large and prosperous people, enormous in numbers too with agricultural capabilities that even exceeded their needs - they did not just disappear, and they're high density spots was all over today-Serbia. The Ayrans do not come from Europe, and certainly not Balkan so that doesn't make sense either. So where do Slavs originate from UZ? Not from the Balkans that is for sure. I am also sure you have no evidence to prove otherwise so why waste time with rhetorical question like that, just prove it otherwise. |
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Post by aussie75 on Oct 13, 2014 23:00:45 GMT -5
^ no seriously, where? Baltics, Ukraine, Poland etc...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 14, 2014 3:39:32 GMT -5
The slavic migration theory has been proven to be a hoax many times and by various authors. No need to waste time on this.
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Post by geticusultra on Oct 14, 2014 7:59:21 GMT -5
Southern Russia, north-eastern Ukraine, and they started to move into more western territories after the departure of goths and the hunnic invasions opened their doors to central Europe. But in the balkan area the slavic haplogroup is a minority, surpased by each thraco-ilirian haplogroups, I2 and E1b1b.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 14, 2014 9:46:11 GMT -5
Southern Russia, north-eastern Ukraine, and they started to move into more western territories after the departure of goths and the hunnic invasions opened their doors to central Europe. But in the balkan area the slavic haplogroup is a minority, surpased by each thraco-ilirian haplogroups, I2 and E1b1b. Why do i have the impression that i read this manufactured BS for the 1000th time? Dude the slavic element not only is very present in the Balkans, it was from the Balkans that the Slavs expanded. No wonder the SERBIAN language is the MOST ARCHAIC (7-declensions) of all Slavic languages. |
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Post by rex362 on Oct 14, 2014 10:14:23 GMT -5
The slavic migration theory has been proven to be a hoax many times and by various authors. No need to waste time on this. "no need to wast time on this " code for ------> its propaganda time |
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Post by geticusultra on Oct 14, 2014 11:46:59 GMT -5
You're being ridiculous kraj, telling us that almost 300 mil slavic peoples in the eastern part of Europe are from Balkans, while in our area the slavic blood is way less than thraco-ilirian blood. You also give credits ti slavdom for something that is related to thraco-ilirians. Where did you learned that, in mother russia?!  |
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 14, 2014 12:32:34 GMT -5
You're being ridiculous kraj, telling us that almost 300 mil slavic peoples in the eastern part of Europe are from Balkans, while in our area the slavic blood is way less than thraco-ilirian blood. You also give credits ti slavdom for something that is related to thraco-ilirians. Where did you learned that, in mother russia?! Its 400 mil ppl. PS Oppsss.. did i notice "Kraj".... UZZZZZZIEEE!!!!! Dont tell me that (old) Romanians dont know the word..... KRALJ |
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Post by geticusultra on Oct 14, 2014 13:12:52 GMT -5
Made and aproximation with 300 milions.
What is UZIEE?
And why are we suposed to know the word Kralj if it's slavic? Aparently it means king, but was not used among romanians. Cneaz was a word used or voievod.
So slavs origins is not in the balkans, it's clearly somewhere in south Russia northeastern ukraine since the R1a in also very strong in Afganistan, so it's clearly not from balkans. And we have a lot of sources talking about slavic migrations.
But we are thraco-ilirians, not slavs or romans. Just the language is different.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 14, 2014 17:07:49 GMT -5
Made and aproximation with 300 milions. What is UZIEE? And why are we suposed to know the word Kralj if it's slavic? Aparently it means king, but was not used among romanians. Cneaz was a word used or voievod. So slavs origins is not in the balkans, it's clearly somewhere in south Russia northeastern ukraine since the R1a in also very strong in Afganistan, so it's clearly not from balkans. And we have a lot of sources talking about slavic migrations. But we are thraco-ilirians, not slavs or romans. Just the language is different. Kralj Vatra is a Vlacho Albanian from greece ..... |
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Post by geticusultra on Oct 14, 2014 18:00:53 GMT -5
And why a russian propagandist uses it?
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Post by rex362 on Oct 14, 2014 18:20:26 GMT -5
And why a russian propagandist uses it? I dont know the serbs dont know ....he might not even know himself .......all I know I have a mission to bring him back home at least before those Mosad agents get him first |
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