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Post by terroreign on Feb 20, 2012 3:38:45 GMT -5
From "Blood and Homeland": Eugenics and racial nationalism in Central and Southeast Europe, 1900-1940: The idea that the Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia were "racially inferior Vlachs" and nomads gained common currency not only among nationalist intellectuals and writers, but also at the popular street level in cities and towns, including the Croatian capital, Zagreb. Racist slogans became a defining characteristic of the violent anti-Serb riots by the followers of Josip Frank's Pure Party of Rights, a virulently nationalist and pro-Habsburg political faction at the turn of the twentieth century.
In 1904, anthropologist, archaeologist, and director of the Bosnian Agricultural Museum in Sarajevo, Ciro Truhelka, published a notorious text which reflected the distillation of these prejudices, 'Hrvatska Bosnia: Mi i oni tamo' (Croatian Bosnia: Us and Them over there).
His study provided an intellectual justification for the expulsion of the Serbs from Bosnia, as advocated by extreme Croatian nationalists. Truhelka emphasized the importance of Bosnia as a cultural borderland between east and west, as well as between "blond-haired Slavs and dark-skinned Vlachs, and between culturally passive and active tribes, Croats and Serbs, progress and stagnation, life and death.
He also developed a pseudo-scientific racial definition of the supposed Vlach origins of the Serbs. Truhelka alleged that Vlachs were, like the Jews, recognizable at a hundred paces: "whether he is from romania, sumadija, or the banat, from the lika, or srijem, or Bosnia or Herzegovina, dress him in the clothes of the Shah of Persia, and as soon as every intelligent child sees him [they] will exclaim: 'There's a Vlach!'
He noted that in Bosnia Muslims and Croats were blond and blue-eyed, while the Orthodox Serbs were dark-skinned and brown-eyed. The latter were also pigeon-chested; this contrasted with the wide-chests of the Balkan muslims and catholics. Moreover, the shape of their skulls - dolichocephalic as opposed to the brachycephalic skulls of Muslims and Catholics - implied that they were representatives of an older, culturally less worthy race than were the Croats.
Anthropologically, Truhelka explained, catholics and muslims were identicle in genetic makeup, while orthodox inhabitants represented "a black-skinned, overwhelmingly dark, physically degenerate type". books.google.com/books?id=XUNI11mfSdoC&pg=PA103&dq=anti-serb+racism&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LuFBT4L0CqWOiALstojKAQ&ved=0CGQQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=anti-serb%20racism&f=false
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Post by terroreign on Feb 20, 2012 4:32:54 GMT -5
Continued:
Biology and race were also linked to character. If on ventured to the villages, one could observe that the percentage of "fair, blue-eyed and physically developed tribes" increased at an alarming rate, wheras in cities, where capitalism was rife, the number of black-haired, black-eyed and physically weak tribes was much greater: "This is the best proof that the dark blood of the Orthodox of Bosnia spreads from the towns and cities, from 'plutocrat' circles to the village" he claimed.
As a corollary, Truhelka wrote that the love of profit was a key feature of the personality of the Vlach. He described how the Vlach made money at the expense of others, buying property and becoming a land-lord, acquisitive businessman, banker or broker, lending money "at one hundred percent interest on unsown corn, not undertaking any work that is not motivated by at least fifty percent pure interest."
Many affluent citizens had fallen victim to the avaricious impulses of the Vlachs, and many a Beg or Aga fallen on hard times had found his land seized by the "dirty fingernails" of the medieval Morloch, who would boast in the cafes or taverns in the towns of Bosnia how the time would come when the present Aga would work for him.
Truhelka claimed that his study was not a polemical work. Yet, at the same time, he believed it should be made clear to patriotic Croats that the Vlachs were socially dangerous. On arriving in the Balkans, they had come across the homes of Croats and poured their "dark blood" into the veins of one section of the native population. Like some animals, the Vlachs were also incapable of evolving and were cultural parasites, unable to contribute anything meaningful to society. Despite their cunning nature they were "sterile, stereotypical and anthropologically inflexible, and susceptible to endemic tuberculosis and sterility, possessing weak physical and psychological constitutions."
Truhelka's study directly influenced other writers. In 1917, Ivo Pilar, a lawyer from Tuzla, published his study "Die Sudslawisce Frage" (The South Slav Question), which appropriated many of Truhelka's messages. Pilar argued that the South Slav problem was in fact a Serb problem - the Balkan and Byzantine temperament of the Serbs had a negative impact upon the development of the region. Like Truhelka, Pilar argued that Bosnia was ethnically and politically Croat and that the Serbs of Bosnia were not Serbs at all, but Vlachs brought to the region by the Turkish Ottomans.
As a result, Croatia was fighting a "race war, a national, social, and economic war". For him, the Serbs' nomadic Vlach origins also bestowed upon them certain distinctive personality traits. The Serbs, he wrote, had a covetous and pilfering nature, and they were untrustworthy businessmen in much the same way that the Jews had been, constantly lusting after the goods and property of others.
It was also a common feature of Vlachs to swindle others. This dishonesty was reflected most notably in the Serbs' claim to Bosnia: their envious and greedy urges had led them to try and deny its status as a constituent and legitimate part of Austro-Hungarian territory, and to grab it for themselves.
Conversely, the nature of Orthodoxy, with its aims of regional domination, had also led to the ghettoization of the Serbs who could not bear to live with other people of different faiths. This was evident among the Serb population in Bosnia who had set themselves apart from the Catholics and the Muslims.
Pilar further contended that Vlachs only had the power and talent to destroy things and this was why, in a period when "destructive, anti-social and evil" instincts held sway, the Serbs had been recruited especially for the Ottoman army. Similarly, he believed that, as eternal wanderers, the Serbs presented a mortal danger to the Balkans because they were the leading instigators of plots, conspiracies and revolutions.
Worse still, their "migratory spirit" meant that many of them had now settled in Zagreb, where they were sure to outbreed the Croats. In short, there were no limits to Serb ambitions; in order to avoid Serb domination, Bosnia should be annexed to Croatia as soon as possible.
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Post by Moe Lester on Feb 20, 2012 5:48:11 GMT -5
Also, what does this have to do with Croatia?
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Post by terroreign on Feb 20, 2012 19:27:47 GMT -5
These theories were the foundation of Croat Ustasa ideology and nationalism.
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Post by uz on Feb 20, 2012 19:29:56 GMT -5
Also, what does this have to do with Croatia? If you want to be a mod all you have to do is ask ;D and good post Krivo.
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Post by Moe Lester on Feb 20, 2012 20:03:00 GMT -5
If you want to be a mod all you have to do is ask ;D What would I be mod of? Oceania? Pfft, no one posts there. And there's already enough mods, they're just a bit lazy. These theories were the foundation of Croat Ustasa ideology and nationalism. Whenever I see Serbs on TV and in Australia, they're usually darker than the Croats and Slovenes (except in Dalmatia).
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Post by Anittas on Feb 21, 2012 7:30:02 GMT -5
An evil and false ideologi.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Feb 21, 2012 13:07:45 GMT -5
These theories were the foundation of Croat Ustasa ideology and nationalism. What do you think about genetic studies confirming that Bosnian Croats are the most autochon in Bosnia while Bosnian Serbs are the least ( i.e. relative newcomers)?
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Post by valmir on Feb 21, 2012 13:13:27 GMT -5
TRUE, Just look how the serbs are more connected to the Russian and Slavic nations while Croats do not seem to feel anything for them! ITS ALL ABOUT GENETICS MAN, WHAT IS IN YOUR BLOOD!
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Feb 21, 2012 13:32:01 GMT -5
TRUE, Just look how the serbs are more connected to the Russian and Slavic nations while Croats do not seem to feel anything for them! ITS ALL ABOUT GENETICS MAN, WHAT IS IN YOUR BLOOD! This is not true at all , not the point you're trying to make. Russian are a slavic nation. Serbs are connected to them on a political and religious level , not a national or ethnic one. Plenty of Serbs feel closer to Greeks than Russians or other Slavs because of the strong religious ties and Balkan location. Croats in turn have very good relations with the Polish and Slovaks due to Catholic heritage and slav kinship. Croats were the champions of Slavdom at one point and created one the most significant Slav movements to date. My point was that the Bosnian Croats hold the oldest most common makers in BiH up to this day ( 71%) while the Bosnian Serbs hold the least ( 30%). It means that wherever the Serbs' ancestors came from , its not the same as the Croats' ancestors who were already in Bosnia.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 21, 2012 15:34:15 GMT -5
^Most Serbs feel close to Russians we're both slavs, orthodoxy-wise we're closer to greece (mount athos). It's just, slavs have a closer mentality to one another you know priso? you go to zagreb, moscow, or prague, you're going to see people w/ the same outlook, faces, and manners
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Feb 23, 2012 8:41:25 GMT -5
I can agree with that and the mentality is unique. I grew up in the U.S. a large portion of my life. I speak perfect English and don't even have an accent anymore. I have a respectable career and hobknob the traditional American way. I'll BBQ , watch the game, and fit in just fine with 'Joe American.'
But... there is a part of me that is different. When I hear the accordian or tamburica and a traditional Croatian/Yugoslav song it gets my blood boiling and I get chills. I can't explain it , I think its a part of us that will stay with us till the grave. I react to my heritage almost out of of instinct.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Feb 23, 2012 8:44:10 GMT -5
Krivo , why do you have the nick of an Albanian hero now? Thinking about being Alb for a while? Or do you also now claim Albanians as some lost Serb tribe too?
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Post by terroreign on Feb 23, 2012 18:20:03 GMT -5
hehe he's Skanderbeg's great-grandpa, a Serb by all accounts whom alb nationalists deny's existence.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Feb 24, 2012 7:46:56 GMT -5
My great-grandpa was Ukranian. Does that make me Ukranian?
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Post by uz on Feb 24, 2012 12:02:01 GMT -5
No, but it makes your grandpa Ukrainian. That's his point, Branilo was a Serb.
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Post by valmir on Feb 24, 2012 15:23:23 GMT -5
Krivo , why do you have the nick of an Albanian hero now? Thinking about being Alb for a while? Or do you also now claim Albanians as some lost Serb tribe too? They have no ORIGIN man, they simply dont know their ORIGIN! They are ashamed to declare theirself as slavs cus they dont like Slavs,If you search in Stormfront you will see some threds where they declare they are illyrians but they lost the lnaguage etc... ;D
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Post by valmir on Feb 24, 2012 15:23:58 GMT -5
hehe he's Skanderbeg's great-grandpa, a Serb by all accounts whom alb nationalists deny's existence. NO ZAGARA, we dont accept you! YOU CANNOT BE ALBANIAN, YOU ONLY CAN BE BORN ALBANIAN!
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Post by uz on Feb 24, 2012 16:13:37 GMT -5
Krivo , why do you have the nick of an Albanian hero now? Thinking about being Alb for a while? Or do you also now claim Albanians as some lost Serb tribe too? They have no ORIGIN man, they simply dont know their ORIGIN! They are ashamed to declare theirself as slavs cus they dont like Slavs,If you search in Stormfront you will see some threds where they declare they are illyrians but they lost the lnaguage etc... ;D stormfront is your source? Most Serbs are certain of their origins and most certainly are proud of their Slavic heritage. The few that aren't, are just trying to find some deeper (empty) meaning. This is the category where most Albanians fall under. You guys get bamboozled everytime other "options" arise, not knowing what to beleive or where to start, falling (leaning) on some ancient peoples'. YOU ARE NOT ILLYRIAN. You are Albanian, and you probably have Slavic blood in you.
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Post by uz on Feb 24, 2012 18:33:33 GMT -5
Can someone clean up this thread, I'll remove my responses when the posts are gone.
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