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Post by rex362 on Jul 13, 2018 10:59:07 GMT -5
lots of professional linguists here I see ..
gtfoh
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 13, 2018 16:06:31 GMT -5
lots of professional linguists here I see ..
gtfoh
gtfoh is a new illirian word? surely sounds like alrteeulbanian
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Post by rex362 on Jul 13, 2018 18:05:11 GMT -5
sorry its gtfooh
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 17, 2018 1:27:56 GMT -5
the word Bosnia could be derived from Illyrian, what does Bosna mean in Albanian?
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Post by rex362 on Jul 18, 2018 16:51:19 GMT -5
the word Bosnia could be derived from Illyrian, what does Bosna mean in Albanian?
green bird
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 19, 2018 1:05:29 GMT -5
the word Bosnia could be derived from Illyrian, what does Bosna mean in Albanian?
green bird
I thought that is zog jeshil
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 19, 2018 1:45:21 GMT -5
Albo logic :
Average shitard : Vucic is albanian Average Serb : why? Average shitard : Well Vusic is from Bosnia right? Average Serb : yup Average shitard : well dont they live some Vlahs in Bosnia? Average Serb : uhmmm.. dont know, could be.... Average Shitard : Well Vlahs are Albanians
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 19, 2018 2:13:31 GMT -5
Albo logic :
Average shitard : Vucic is albanian Average Serb : why? Average shitard : Well Vusic is from Bosnia right? Average Serb : yup Average shitard : well dont they live some Vlahs in Bosnia? Average Serb : uhmmm.. dont know, could be.... Average Shitard : Well Vlahs are Albanians
I ain't seeing any Albanians on this map of Vlachs.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 23, 2018 13:08:06 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 23, 2018 17:20:59 GMT -5
eKaTO is centum Hundred is centum but STO is satem
gimme a funking break.
+1, this whole satem and centum is BS, made up by some wacky Nordic School Germans! Problem for Albanians is: ALBANIAN HAS LEXICONS STEMMING FROM CAUCASUS (ARMENIAN). You cannot have this without originally being there in the first place! Illyria has no meaning in Albanian, oh wait, it means FREE? Just FREE? FREE from what? There has to be a story, just not some random coincidence. Rex, is there a story behind the Shqiptarised ilija (ilir) Elijah?
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Post by rex362 on Oct 23, 2018 18:02:27 GMT -5
yes there is ....
Illyr /Illlyria definition : We are tired of the last 200 years of serbian poetry
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Post by Pyrros on Oct 24, 2018 6:02:46 GMT -5
Illyria has no meaning in Albanian, oh wait, it means FREE? Just FREE? FREE from what? There has to be a story, just not some random coincidence. Rex, is there a story behind the Shqiptarised ilija (ilir) Elijah?
+1000!!
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 16:55:28 GMT -5
This Greek bronze statuette of a running girl, now housed in the British Museum, is 11.4cm high and dates to about 500 BC. It is Peloponnesian in style and may have been made at Sparta, though it was found at Prizren . The girl is dressed exactly as Pausanias describes the girls in the running events at Olympia ('Description of Greece', V, 16.4, second century AD). Women in ancient Greece were rarely allowed to take part in sport, except in Sparta, where it was believed that mothers who were tough and strong would produce good Spartan soldiers. The events at Olympia were not part of the Olympics proper, but of a separate festival for the goddess Hera, wife of Zeus. Pausanias says of the women who took part: 'Their hair hangs down, a tunic reaches to a little above the knee, and they bare the right shoulder as far as the breast'. Like the Olympics the Heraia were celebrated every four years, but the only event was the foot-race, with contests for three separate age-groups. The races were held in the stadium but with the track being shortened by one sixth, making it 158m long, instead of the 192m run by the men.
hmmmm
Herodotus constantly addressed Spartans as pellazg and that they were not greco-Phoenician. According to him Spartans spoke another language, unlike that of greek .Even according to modern historian (Edwin Jacques), Spartans and dorianet have other language from the greek and it is similar to the Illyrian, this theory is strengthened knowing that the dorianet of the first of Spartans have come to Sparta and in Peloponnese from the north
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 17:09:36 GMT -5
Dionysius of Halicarnassus was a greek historian and teacher of rhetoric, who flourished during the reign of Caesar Augustus. His literary style was Atticistic
Roman Antiquities 3.8.5 [5] τούτων δὴ τῶν διαλλαγῶν ἐμοὶ μὲν δοκεῖ χρῆναι τὰς εὐπρεπεστέρας καὶ μεγαλοψυχοτέρας ἡμᾶς ἑλέσθαι καὶ γνώμην θέσθαι περὶ μηδενὸς ἡμᾶς ἀλλήλοις μνησικακεῖν, σὺ δ᾽ εἰ μὴ βούλει διαλλάττεσθαι τοῦτον τὸν τρόπον, ὦ Τύλλε, ἀλλὰ καὶ διδόναι δίκας καὶ λαμβάνειν ἀξιοῖς τοὺς ἐν ταῖς αἰτίαις παρ᾽ ἀλλήλων, ἕτοιμοι καὶ ταῦτα ποιεῖν εἰσιν Ἀλβανοὶ τὰ κοινὰ ἔχθη προκαταλυσάμενοι. εἰ δέ τινας ἔχεις παρὰ ταύτας λέγειν ἑτέρας εἴτε καλλίους διαλλαγὰς εἴτε δικαιοτέρας, οὐκ ἂν φθάνοις φέρων εἰς μέσον καὶ πολλήν σοι χάριν εἴσομαι.
Of these two methods of reconciliation, now, it is my opinion that we ought to choose the one which is the more honourable and magnanimous, and we ought to pass a decree of general amnesty. However, if you, Tullius, do not wish a reconciliation of this kind, but prefer that the accusers and the accused should mutually give and receive satisfaction, the Albans are also ready to do this, after first settling our mutual hatreds. And if, besides this, you have any other method to suggest which is either more honourable or more just, you cannot lay it before us too soon, and for doing so I shall be greatly obliged to you."
3.9.2 [2] πρότεροι δὲ πρεσβεύεσθαι περὶ διαλλαγῶν [p. 284] οὐκ ἠξιοῦμεν, ἐπείπερ οὐδ᾽ ἤρξαμεν αὐτοὶ πρότεροι τοῦ πολέμου, ἄρξαντας δὲ ἠμυνάμεθα. ἀποτιθεμένων δὲ ὑμῶν τὰ ὅπλα δεχόμεθα τὰς προκλήσεις ἄσμενοι καὶ περὶ διαλλαγῶν οὐδὲν ἀκριβολογούμεθα, ἀλλὰ τὰς κρατίστας τε καὶ μεγαλοψυχοτάτας δεχόμεθα πᾶν ἀδίκημα καὶ πᾶν ἁμάρτημα τῆς Ἀλβανῶν πόλεως ἀφιέντες, εἰ δὴ καὶ κοινὰ χρὴ καλεῖν πόλεως ἁμαρτήματα, ὧν ὁ στρατηγὸς ὑμῶν Κλοίλιος αἴτιος ἦν, ὃς ὑπὲρ ἀμφοτέρων ἡμῶν οὐ μεμπτὰς τέτικε δίκας τοῖς θεοῖς.
yet we did not consider it fitting that we should be the first to send ambassadors to propose an accommodation, since we had not been p35the first to begin the war, but had merely defended ourselves against those who had begun it. But once you are ready to lay down your arms, we will gladly receive your proposal, and will not scrutinize too closely the terms of the reconciliation, but will accept those that are the best and the most magnanimous, forgiving every injury and offence we have received from the city of Alba — if, indeed, those deserve to be called public offences of the city for which your general Cluilius was responsible, and has paid no mean penalty to the gods for the wrongs he did us both.
3.9.4 εἰ παύσαιντο μὲν Ἀλβανοὶ φθονοῦντες Ῥωμαίοις ἐφ᾽ οἷς ἔχουσιν ἀγαθοῖς, οὐκ ἄνευ μεγάλων κινδύνων καὶ πόνων πολλῶν αὐτὰ κτησάμενοι, ῾οὐθὲν γοῦν πεπονθότες ὑφ᾽ ἡμῶν οὔτε μεῖζον οὔτε ἔλαττον κακὸν διὰ τοῦτο μισεῖτε ἡμᾶς, ὅτι [p. 285] δοκοῦμεν ἄμεινον ὑμῶν πράττειν᾽ παύσαιντο δὲ Ῥωμαῖοι δἰ ὑποψίας ἔχοντες Ἀλβανοὺς ὡς ἐπιβουλεύοντας ἀεί σφισι καὶ φυλαττόμενοι καθάπερ ἐχθρούς: οὐ γὰρ ἂν γένοιτο βεβαίως φίλος τῷ μισοῦντι οὐδείς
If, on the one hand, the Albans would cease to envy the Romans the advantages they possess, advantages which were acquired not without great perils and many hardships (in any case you have suffered no injury at our hands, great or slight, but you hate us for this reason alone, that we seem to be better than you); and if, on the other hand, the Romans would cease to suspect the Albans of always plotting against them and would cease to be on their guard against them as against enemies (for no one can be a firm friend to one who distrusts him).
3.10.6 [6] ταῦτα ἡμᾶς ἑκόντας δέχεσθαι. τελευταῖός μοι λόγος ἐστίν, ὅτι τῆς Ἀλβανῶν πόλεως οὐθὲν ἔτι παρακινεῖ μέρος τοῦ πολιτεύματος ὀκτωκαιδεκάτην ἤδη γενεὰν οἰκουμένης καὶ πάντα ἐν κόσμῳ τὰ συνήθη καὶ πάτρια ἐπιτελούσης, ἡ δ᾽ ὑμετέρα πόλις ἀδιακόσμητός ἐστιν ἔτι καὶ ἀδιάτακτος, ἅτε νεόκτιστος οὖσα καὶ ἐκ πολλῶν συμφορητὸς ἐθνῶν, ᾗ μακρῶν δεῖ χρόνων καὶ παθημάτων παντοδαπῶν, ἵνα καταρτισθῇ καὶ παύσηται ταραττομένη καὶ στασιάζουσα [p. 289] ὥσπερ νῦν. ἅπαντες δ᾽ ἂν εἴποιεν ὅτι δεῖ τὰ καθεστηκότα τῶν ταραττομένων καὶ τὰ πεπειραμένα τῶν ἀδοκιμάστων καὶ τὰ ὑγιαίνοντα τῶν νοσούντων ἄρχειν: οἷς ὑμεῖς τἀναντία ἀξιοῦντες οὐκ ὀρθῶς ποιεῖτε.
My last argument is this: The city of Alba has so far made no alteration in any part of its constitution, though it is already the eighteenth generation that it has been inhabited, but continues to observe in due form all its customs and traditions; whereas your city is still without order and discipline, due to its being newly founded and a conglomeration of many race, and it will require long ages and manifold turns of fortune in order to be regulated and freed from those troubles and dissensions with which it is now agitated. But all will agree that order ought to rule over confusion, experience over inexperience, and health over sickness; and you do wrong in demanding the reverse." The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 17:43:37 GMT -5
The word "hoplite" (Greek: ὁπλίτης hoplitēs; pl. ὁπλίται hoplitai) derives from "hoplon" (ὅπλον, plural hopla ὅπλα), the type of the shield used by the soldiers:
in Albanian ....APLLADHE made out of copper usually ....usually round /square deep tray or larger saucer
Bronze Spartan Shield - loot from the Battle of Pylos 425 B.C.
another weapon ....
δόρυ Od. 5.370.—(2) shaft of a spear, spear; of ash / Hom., etc.; εἰς δόρυ ἀφικνεῖσθαι to come within a spear's throw, Xen.; ἐπὶ δόρυ to the spear-side
in Alb ..dru .......simply just wood .....
Also those called "ὁπλίται = oplitet" also had another important weapon called "δόρυ" which was nothing more than a long piece of wood with a metal tip.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 18:21:49 GMT -5
The famous......
Molon labe, meaning "come and take [them]", is a classical expression of defiance. According to Plutarch, Xerxes I—king of the Achaemenid Empire—demanded that the Spartans surrender their weapons and King Leonidas I responded with this phrase. It is an exemplary use of a laconic phrase.
----------μολὼν λαβέ, -----
----------molon labe --------
Alb ------mo lon le vi -------gheg alb
alb#2----me len le vi--------tosk alb
Eng-----allow let them/him come ----
extremely used in a sarcastic way in alb like ...--yea right let them come and try/take it-- And thats 100%
in simple common Albanian ...if my daughter was 5 years old and she told me that its raining outside and
the cat is outside the door and if I said to her in Alb "mo len le vi" she would say ok and open the door
to let the cat in
also the Gheg dialect (kosovar/northern alb) is more akin to so called ancient greek/homeric than my tosk alb is
.............Ἢ τὰν ἢ ἐπὶ τᾶς " ------
.............I tan I epi tas -------
alb .........Me ate o siper ata/ate
Eng........with them or on them eng#2....with all or above them
eng#3 ... With this or upon this
epi.....ipi ...ip ..on /over /to get on ....
possible coincident tas is simply bowl /saucer in alb .....ya know shaped like a shield
* another note for Pyrros
...epir ....epiro.. .."e" in alb means "of" ownership
who's pencil is this ? e Branit e Novit e Rexit in english ---> its Brani's its Novi's its rex's
and if you go iperus ....the i is the same dam thing in Alb
i branit i Novit i Rexit
epirus .....e pirus belongs to Pirus ......
enjoy and have a good night
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 20:56:31 GMT -5
is the Albanian language really Illyrian ? YES and a lot more
Artemis and her deer....every pic ,coin and sculpture of her always depicts her with deer
ancient ..... Δρηνεία
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Thrac..........dranis
Alb...............Drenja /Dren /Dre
greek.........Elafi
Eng.............Deer
the important part is why ancient so called greek and modern albanian have many common word while the greeks of today have usually/mostly complet different words .......makes you wonder ay? but what do i know we just got here yesterday
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 21:54:25 GMT -5
κώρα .... Doric
kóra
korra ....Alb
cropping...english
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σκέπαρνον / sképarnon in the Homeric passages,
Eng. carpenter's axe for hewing and smoothing the trunks of trees,an adze
sqepar ......Albanian
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 22:04:15 GMT -5
and hence I give it to you in Homeric Odisea /Odyssey/ Udhesia in alb
δῶκέν οἱ πέλεκυν μέγαν, ἄρμενον ἐν παλάμῃσι, χάλκεον, ἀμφοτέρωθεν ἀκαχμένον: αὐτὰρ ἐν αὐτῷ στειλειὸν περικαλλὲς ἐλάινον, εὖ ἐναρηρός: δῶκε δ᾽ ἔπειτα σκέπαρνον ἐύξοον: ἦρχε δ᾽ ὁδοῖο
She gave him a great axe, well fitted to his hands, an axe of bronze, sharpened on both sides; and in it was a beautiful handle of olive wood, securely fastened; and thereafter she gave him a polished adze.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 27, 2018 22:44:17 GMT -5
σκηπτός / skiptós .......hmmm also close to the word Skipt-ar /shqiptar /Albanian
thunderbolt
Shkreptime ...Albanian
shkaptim......Albanian also
shkrepja.......same
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