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Post by kartadolofonos on Apr 8, 2012 20:47:12 GMT -5
www.mathima.gr/education/yliko/files_yliko/25h_Martiou_poihmata.htmlΤης Δέσπω Μπότση -Αχός βαρύς ακούγεται, πολλά τουφέκια πέφτουν. Μήνα σε γάμο ρίχνονται, μήνα σε χαροκόπι; -Ούδε σε γάμο ρίχνονται ούδε σε χαροκόπι. Η Δέσπω κάνει πόλεμο με νύφες και μ' αγγόνια. Η Τουρκοαρβανιτιά την πλάκωσε στου Δημουλά τον πύργο: «Γιώργαινα, ρίξε τ' άρματα, δεν είναι εδώ το Σούλι. Εδώ είσαι σκλάβα του πασά, σκλάβα των Τουρκοαρβανίτων». «Το Σούλι κι αν προσκύνησε, κι αν τούρκεψεν η Κιάφα, η Δέσπω αφέντες Λιάπηδες δεν έκαμε, δεν κάνει». Δαυλί στο χέριν άρπαξε, κόρες και νύφες κράζει: «Σκλάβες Τούρκων μη ζήσωμε, παιδιά μ', μαζί μου ελάτε» και τα φυσέκια ανάψανε, κι όλοι φωτιά γενήκαν.
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Post by rex362 on Mar 24, 2013 17:57:22 GMT -5
ziti your ass ...... simply shameful ....just shameful AISCHROS !!Tragic End of 1821′s Greek Heroes
The Greek War of Independence commenced in 1821 and waged until 1832 when the Greek free state was finally established under the blessings and the needs of the then powerful allies of the Greek revolutionaries, the British, the French and the Russian. The national day celebrated on March 25th pays tribute to all men, women and children who lost their lives for the dream of a sovereign free country, and especially to the heroes of the Greek Revolution that risked their lives for freedom from the Ottoman Empire. But as always, there are black pages in every history book of the world, and Greece’s were not an exception. Although it goes mostly unnoticed, the fact is that many Greek captains of the Revolution were sent to jail during and after the war against the Ottomans. Others were pushed aside by the newly formed state as too dangerous for the common good or too unpredictable for the reigning forces. Here follow some of the most exemplary and tragic stories of the Greek captains of 1821, who ended up underprivileged, captured, begging on the streets and even dead. Nikitas Stamatelopoulos or Nikitaras or the Turk-eater died in September 25, 1849, totally forgotten and poor.The brave and honorable man who stood out in the battle of Dervenakia and was told to have broken three swords with his fury in the battlefield, was groundlessly accused of conspiracy against King Otto and was sent to prison first in Palamidi (along with his uncle and Revolution captain Theodoros Kolokotronis) and then on the island of Aegina. When the then Greek Prime Minister Ioannis Kolettis asked him to kill a rival and former captain of the Greek Independence war, Odysseas Androutsos, in exchange for a government position, Nikitaras refused the offer and became angry with Kolettis. He also refused to take booty after the victorious battle of Tripolis, a normal practice of Balkan irregulars at the time. Nikitaras was released from prison in 1841, but the period in jail broke his health and he was almost blind due to diabetes problems. The Greek state refused to grant him and his family any descent pension to make a living, but instead allowed him to beg before a Virgin Mary church every Friday. In 1843, when King Otto was forced to sign the Constitution, Nikitaras was given the title of major general and an insignificant pension. He died in 1849 in Piraeus. A major hero of the Greek War of Independence, Odysseas Androutsos earned the title of Commander in Chief of the Greek forces in Roumeli, but his glory did not last long. His intense personality and constant conflicts with the “kalamarades” as he called the politicians and the clergy resulted in making him suspicious of the politics followed at the time. In spring 1822 Ioannis Kolettis accused him of betrayal and cooperation with the Ottomans, so that Androutsos gave up his title as Commander in Chief but never gave up his fighting against them. Seieng through the scheming of politics, Androutsos retired in a cave, the Black Hole, totally disappointed with the newly emerged state of the Greeks after the independence war. There, in his cave north of Parnassus Mountain, Androutsos’ isolation made Kolettis and his enemies even more suspicious of his intentions and soon he was accused of making agreements with the enemy against the interests of the Greeks. Androutsos, however, is said to have called for the cooperation of the Ottomans in order to take them by surprise and fight them from the inside. The arrest of Kolokotronis made Andoutsos even more hostile towards politicians. Then the government in 1825 assigned to Yiannis Gouras, a close lieutenant of Androutsos, with the mission to take care of Androutsos. Androutsos finally surrendered to the government forces and was led to an Athens prison. Karaiskakis, another major figure of the Greek Independence war, was outraged by his imprisonment and even attempted to rescue his fellow fighter. The attempt failed and to cool things down Gouras asked for the government’s help. The trial date for Androutsos was pending now, but on June 5 at midnight Gouras gave the order and five men including an unknown priest entered Androutsos’ cage and killed him after hours of torture. The lifeless body of Androutsos was then pushed off the prison tower of Goula down to the Temple of Athena Nike of the Acropolis. Androutsos’ death was declared as a failed escape attempt. Laskarina Bouboulina was a Greek naval commander and heroine of the Greek Revolution. Being married twice to prosperous husbands, Bouboulina bought arms and ammunition at her own expense and brought them secretly to the island of Spetses on her ships, to fight for the sake of her nation. Construction of her ship Agamemnon was finished in 1820. She bribed Turkish officials to ignore the ship’s size and it was later one of the largest warships in the hands of Greek rebels. She also organized her own armed troops, composed of men from Spetses. She used most of her fortune to provide food and ammunition for the sailors and soldiers under her command. The people of Spetses revolted on 3 April, and later joined forces with ships from other Greek islands. Bouboulina sailed with eight ships to Nafplion and began a naval blockade. Later she took part in the naval blockade and capture of Monemvasia and Pylos. When the opposing factions erupted into the second civil war in 1824, the Greek government arrested Bouboulina for her family connection with now-imprisoned Kolokotronis; the government also killed her son-in-law Panos Kolokotronis. With the order to be arrested, she was exiled back to Spetses poor and disappointed by the new Greek reality. In 1825, while Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt disembarked in Pylos in a final attempt to smother the revolution, Bouboulina began preparing for new battles despite her animosity towards the politicians. However, on May 22 of the same year, Bouboulina would die a tragic death. Her younger son from her first marriage fell in love with the daughter of the powerful Koutsaios family of Spetses and the couple fled to the house of Bouboulina’s first husband. Bouboulina and the Koutsaios soon arrives at the house and after a long and furious dispute, Ioannis Koutsis shot her in the head fatally. The case was closed and no-one ever put the perpetratorson on trial. Manto Mavrogenous was a Greek heroine of the Greek War of Independence. A rich woman, who spent all her fortune on the Hellenic cause. Under her encouragement, her European friends contributed money and guns to the revolution. When the struggle began, she went to Mykonos, the island of her origin, and invited the leaders there to join the revolution. She equipped, manned and “privatized” at her own expense, two ships with which she pursued the pirates who attacked Mykonos and other islands of the Cyclades. She also equipped 150 men to campaign in the Peloponnese and sent forces and financial support to Samos, when the island was threatened by the Turks. Later, Mavrogenous sent another corps of fifty men to Peloponnese, who took part in the Siege of Tripolitsa and the fall of the town to the Greek rebels. She spent money on the relief of the soldiers and their families, the preparation of a campaign to Northern Greece and the support of several philhellenes. She also sent a group of fifty men to reinforce Nikitaras in the Battle of Dervenakia. She moved to Nafplio in 1823, in order to be in the core of the struggle, leaving her family as she was despised even by her mother because of her choices. After her unfortunate love story with Dimitrios Ypsilantis, Mavrogenous lived depressed for a while in Nafplion. After Ypsilanti’s death and her political conflicts with Ioannis Kolettis, she was exiled from Nafplio and returned to Mykonos to live in extreme poverty. When the war ended, Greek Prime Minister Ioannis Kapodistrias awarded her the rank of the Lieutenant General and granted her a dwelling in Nafplio, where she moved. She left for the island of Paros in 1840, where she died in July 1848, in oblivion and poverty. greece.greekreporter.com/2013/03/24/tragic-end-of-1821s-greek-heroes/
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Post by Kanaris on Mar 24, 2013 19:25:08 GMT -5
Thats because before the revolution these Greeks were klephtes ... regular run of mill thieves... and pirates... The Bavarian King didn't not have a place for them in his kingdom.
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Post by rex362 on Mar 24, 2013 20:23:46 GMT -5
ahahhahahahahah
then why greeks praise them ......oh you were just using them.....hmmmmmm
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Post by Kanaris on Mar 24, 2013 23:10:16 GMT -5
No one was using them they had an alternate agenda... land grabbing and stealing... their cause helped the other cause but they were just a tiny fraction of the whole puzzle... The Turks were unraveled by the Russians,French and the English...let's not get carried away that a few klephtes were able to free a country.
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Post by tsompanos on Mar 25, 2013 6:58:55 GMT -5
Zito to ethnos magges! Karta to tragoudi tou Mpithikotsi ine oxi tou Mitropano sto clip pou evales
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Post by rex362 on Mar 25, 2013 15:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Mar 25, 2013 15:49:10 GMT -5
your so called greek heroes were so ridiculed afterwards .....their purpose was used up and shelved away
these heroes were so ridiculed that you cannot reproduce one of their offspring today to say otherwise ... thats how shameful it was and is
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Post by rex362 on Mar 25, 2013 15:50:34 GMT -5
Glory to all Greeks. Today our people began their struggle for Independence. We defeated the Ottoman Turks and their Muslim Albanian brethren. These people - out of envy and hate - continue up to this day to distort our people's history. Do not fall for their propaganda.HA ! ....you are the true FYROMANICALS
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Post by tsompanos on Mar 25, 2013 15:54:48 GMT -5
rexy go cry somewhere else
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Post by rex362 on Mar 25, 2013 16:27:12 GMT -5
I cant ...I am the one that brought this thread back from last year .....
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Post by leandros nikon on Mar 25, 2013 18:13:29 GMT -5
χρόνια πολλά σε όλους!
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Post by rex362 on Mar 25, 2013 19:16:50 GMT -5
The shorter the Poustanella...the bigger the myth
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 20:48:51 GMT -5
^^ Can someone kick this clown out?
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Post by rex362 on Mar 29, 2013 10:46:33 GMT -5
^^ Can someone kick this clown out? nope .... anyways here are some name s of some of today's politicians in greece now ... yea Arvaniti politicians "Arvanitopulos, Arvanitidis, Banjas, Bouras, Bouzalis, Gjulekas, Sgouros, Hekalis, Repushis, Gjokas, Panushi, Bukura, Barbarushi, Miho, Lafazanis, Barkas, Dendia, Kaili, Repas, Meksi, Dukas, Karypidis, Kolas, Koroveshi, Kuveli, Lapi, Manushi, Labiri, Lanis, Lasko, Nako, Çarçonis, Çokas, Curis, Xhimas, Xhavaras, Dhimas, Bezha, Çumanis, Vretos, Zhogas, Kondo, Shkondras, Makripidhis, Zisi, Panaritis,,,"
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Post by Kanaris on Mar 29, 2013 15:42:52 GMT -5
^^ Can someone kick this clown out? nope .... anyways here are some name s of some of today's politicians in greece now ... yea Arvaniti politicians "Arvanitopulos, Arvanitidis, Banjas, Bouras, Bouzalis, Gjulekas, Sgouros, Hekalis, Repushis, Gjokas, Panushi, Bukura, Barbarushi, Miho, Lafazanis, Barkas, Dendia, Kaili, Repas, Meksi, Dukas, Karypidis, Kolas, Koroveshi, Kuveli, Lapi, Manushi, Labiri, Lanis, Lasko, Nako, Çarçonis, Çokas, Curis, Xhimas, Xhavaras, Dhimas, Bezha, Çumanis, Vretos, Zhogas, Kondo, Shkondras, Makripidhis, Zisi, Panaritis,,,"
Those bolded out are difinetley not albanian names... I know a lot of those names from people from asia minor... besides what does Sgouros,Makripidis,Kondo mean in albanian?
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 29, 2013 15:49:25 GMT -5
^^ Can someone kick this clown out? nope .... anyways here are some name s of some of today's politicians in greece now ... yea Arvaniti politicians "Arvanitopulos, Arvanitidis, Banjas, Bouras, Bouzalis, Gjulekas, Sgouros, Hekalis, Repushis, Gjokas, Panushi, Bukura, Barbarushi, Miho, Lafazanis, Barkas, Dendia, Kaili, Repas, Meksi, Dukas, Karypidis, Kolas, Koroveshi, Kuveli, Lapi, Manushi, Labiri, Lanis, Lasko, Nako, Çarçonis, Çokas, Curis, Xhimas, Xhavaras, Dhimas, Bezha, Çumanis, Vretos, Zhogas, Kondo, Shkondras, Makripidhis, Zisi, Panaritis,,," Oh I see... now names matter? well ... how about these Slavic-village/town names in albania? ... Babine Bistrice Boceve Borje Borove Borovjan Borsh Bradashesh Bradoshnice Bradvice Bregas Bukove Bushtrice Cerave Cerenec Cerje Cerkovice Cernevake Corovode Delvine Dhrovjan Dipjake Divjake Dobrenje Dobrune Domaj Dracove Dragobi Dragostunj Drenovice Drini Drino Gjorice Golik Goranxi Gorice Gorishove Gorozup Gostil Gozhdarazhde Grabjan Grabovine Grazhdan Janjar Kalivac Kamenice Karkavec Kepenek Klos these names matter most actually, they've survived throughout Centuries, while anybody can change/adjust a "family name" all it takes is one-generation to be brainwashed. ps. this is just a tiny list compared to actuality.
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Post by rex362 on Mar 29, 2013 19:34:44 GMT -5
Balkaneros ......ahahhahahahahahahahahah
you a Spanish serb now ??
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Post by Balkaneros on Mar 29, 2013 19:57:40 GMT -5
Balkaneros ......ahahhahahahahahahahahah you a Spanish serb now ?? Great song. Look it up
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Post by rex362 on Mar 29, 2013 20:35:06 GMT -5
nope .... anyways here are some name s of some of today's politicians in greece now ... yea Arvaniti politicians "Arvanitopulos, Arvanitidis, Banjas, Bouras, Bouzalis, Gjulekas, Sgouros, Hekalis, Repushis, Gjokas, Panushi, Bukura, Barbarushi, Miho, Lafazanis, Barkas, Dendia, Kaili, Repas, Meksi, Dukas, Karypidis, Kolas, Koroveshi, Kuveli, Lapi, Manushi, Labiri, Lanis, Lasko, Nako, Çarçonis, Çokas, Curis, Xhimas, Xhavaras, Dhimas, Bezha, Çumanis, Vretos, Zhogas, Kondo, Shkondras, Makripidhis, Zisi, Panaritis,,,"
Those bolded out are difinetley not albanian names... I know a lot of those names from people from asia minor... besides what does Sgouros,Makripidis,Kondo mean in albanian? Kondo/kondi is short for Konstantine ...the others I will get back to you ..... here is a strong one from the middle of my birth city ......Athens
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