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Post by rex362 on Aug 1, 2012 11:42:34 GMT -5
USA is going down the drain along with the EU, Serbia forsees this. Less and less Serbs as time goes by have less and less faith in the EU. The East is rising, this is undeniable. Serbia is thinking ahead. hey the whole world in in economy meltdown ....global economy is not working besides all the big money/dirty money in russia does not reside in russia ....they will move in serbia even harder you will be shining their shoes and then they will make you refugess again like in karpatia once upon a time .... ....or you will be in sweat shops sanding smooth chop sticks for the Chinese to eat with
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Post by uz on Aug 1, 2012 11:50:58 GMT -5
being Independent and sovereign has always been considered backwards thinking for Albanians.
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Post by rex362 on Aug 1, 2012 11:56:44 GMT -5
uh ....that doesnt make sense
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Post by rex362 on Aug 1, 2012 12:33:40 GMT -5
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Post by albascorp on Aug 1, 2012 16:46:27 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Aug 2, 2012 9:36:36 GMT -5
Nikolic's Comments on Kosovo Draw Fire
The refusal of ultra-nationalist Serb President Tomislav Nikolic to rule out partitioning Kosovo along ethnic lines, reminding people of the bloody wars that followed the dissolution of the former Yugoslavia, is causing sharp reactions.
"If you told me 20 years ago there would be no Yugoslavia, I wouldn't have believed you. If you told me Serbia and Montenegro would split, I would have also told you that was impossible. I would also have said that Germany would never reunite, but life brings us surprises," Nikolic told The Guardian in an interview published Sunday (July 29th).
Going a step further, Nikolic said that Serbs in Kosovo are living "under the threat of genocide," and any attempt to impose Pristina's rule in the north "could lead to a Serb exodus."
"What if the Serbs move out? Who will accept the results of such genocide?" Nikolic told The Guardian. The new president said 40,000 people could be expelled, "regardless of whether they are women, men, [civilians or] soldiers." The result would be a change to "the ethnic composition of the territory."
"There is a danger that Pristina would be prepared to go that far. The only armed forces there, apart from the international community, are Albanian. I am convinced they wouldn't mind doing that immediately," Nikolic said, adding that only the presence of NATO troops prevents such action.
Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci responded, also through The Guardian, reminding Nikolic that two-thirds of the Kosovo Serbs live south of the Ibar River.
"[They] are fully integrated and in charge of the self-governance on the local level and participate in all institutions on the central level," Thaci said.
"Nikolic is embarrassing himself with statements about genocide that have no basis in fact and ideas about partition that would end Serbia's hopes of ever gaining entry into the EU," Daniel Serwer, professor of conflict management at the US-based Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, told SETimes.
"[Nikolic] should consult Serbs south of the Ibar River about his partition ideas: most of them are strongly opposed, as is the Serbian Orthodox Church," he said.
Seb Bytyci, executive director of the Balkan Policy Institute in Pristina, said Kosovo's institutions are multi-ethnic and have not undertaken any action that would be described as aiming to cause Kosovo Serbs to flee.
"On the contrary, Kosovo has spent tens of millions of dollars to build a multi-ethnic and integrated society. This rhetoric of victimisation is what has contributed to the terrible wars of the 1990s," Bytyci told SETimes.
Dragan Popovic, director of the Belgrade-based Policy Centre, said it is clear that Nikolic intends to push for a solution to the Serbia-Kosovo issue.
"He expects that Kosovo will not be part of Serbia in the future. That is without doubt a historical change for Serbian elite. Still, there is possibility that he has hopes that Kosovo could be partitioned in the future," Popovic told SETimes.
Bytyci said Serbia's attempts to partition Kosovo are not surprising.
"Since 1999, Serbia has maintained parallel institutions in Kosovo, in breach of Resolution 1244, which have sought to undermine Kosovo's development, chiefly by maintaining segregation between Serbs and Albanians. And throughout this time, Serbia has sought to create a mini-state in northern Kosovo, severely undermining the stability of the whole region," Bytyci told SETimes.
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Post by uz on Aug 2, 2012 11:14:45 GMT -5
Nikolic's Comments on Kosovo Draw Fire The refusal of ultra-nationalist Serb President Tomislav Nikolic to rule out partitioning Kosovo along ethnic lines, reminding people of the bloody wars that followed the dissolution of the former Yugoslavia, is causing sharp reactions. "If you told me 20 years ago there would be no Yugoslavia, I wouldn't have believed you. If you told me Serbia and Montenegro would split, I would have also told you that was impossible. I would also have said that Germany would never reunite, but life brings us surprises," Nikolic told The Guardian in an interview published Sunday (July 29th). Going a step further, Nikolic said that Serbs in Kosovo are living "under the threat of genocide," and any attempt to impose Pristina's rule in the north "could lead to a Serb exodus." "What if the Serbs move out? Who will accept the results of such genocide?" Nikolic told The Guardian. The new president said 40,000 people could be expelled, "regardless of whether they are women, men, [civilians or] soldiers." The result would be a change to "the ethnic composition of the territory." "There is a danger that Pristina would be prepared to go that far. The only armed forces there, apart from the international community, are Albanian. I am convinced they wouldn't mind doing that immediately," Nikolic said, adding that only the presence of NATO troops prevents such action. Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci responded, also through The Guardian, reminding Nikolic that two-thirds of the Kosovo Serbs live south of the Ibar River. "[They] are fully integrated and in charge of the self-governance on the local level and participate in all institutions on the central level," Thaci said. "Nikolic is embarrassing himself with statements about genocide that have no basis in fact and ideas about partition that would end Serbia's hopes of ever gaining entry into the EU," Daniel Serwer, professor of conflict management at the US-based Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, told SETimes. "[Nikolic] should consult Serbs south of the Ibar River about his partition ideas: most of them are strongly opposed, as is the Serbian Orthodox Church," he said. Seb Bytyci, executive director of the Balkan Policy Institute in Pristina, said Kosovo's institutions are multi-ethnic and have not undertaken any action that would be described as aiming to cause Kosovo Serbs to flee. "On the contrary, Kosovo has spent tens of millions of dollars to build a multi-ethnic and integrated society. This rhetoric of victimisation is what has contributed to the terrible wars of the 1990s," Bytyci told SETimes. Dragan Popovic, director of the Belgrade-based Policy Centre, said it is clear that Nikolic intends to push for a solution to the Serbia-Kosovo issue. "He expects that Kosovo will not be part of Serbia in the future. That is without doubt a historical change for Serbian elite. Still, there is possibility that he has hopes that Kosovo could be partitioned in the future," Popovic told SETimes. Bytyci said Serbia's attempts to partition Kosovo are not surprising. "Since 1999, Serbia has maintained parallel institutions in Kosovo, in breach of Resolution 1244, which have sought to undermine Kosovo's development, chiefly by maintaining segregation between Serbs and Albanians. And throughout this time, Serbia has sought to create a mini-state in northern Kosovo, severely undermining the stability of the whole region," Bytyci told SETimes. Nikolic is on the right track and should continue this path he's chosen. Kosovo: Albanians attack Serb returnees
(ANSAmed) - PRISTINA, AUGUST 2 - A group of ethnic Albanians barged into the Kosovo village of Grabac on Wednesday night, Zvecan-based Most TV reported. According to the report, the incident took place two hours after midnight. The Albanians broke windows on houses and auxiliary buildings in an attempt to rob them, and Serb villager Rados Matic suffered minor injuries when he was hit by a rock thrown at his window. The local Serbs were especially alarmed after the attackers fired shots while they were leaving the village, Most reported. The police investigated the scene, and the attack has been reported to KFOR. The perpetrators have not yet been tracked down. About a dozen Serb returnees live in Grabac, near Klina. They have often been targeted by extremists, especially in the last five years, ever since KFOR removed its checkpoint. (ANSAmed) www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/news/sections/generalnews/2012/08/02/Kosovo-Albanians-attack-Serb-returnees_7280497.htmlThis isn't even news, but just shows how Nikolic is right. Seems like the ones in Government now are back to fix things, while back in 2000 they were "over thrown" during that revolution.... oooppss Wikileaks exposed that that revolution was organised by MI6.... funny how nature works. Aleksandar Vucic (now Minister of Defense) was Minister of Information under Milosevic Ivica Dacic (now Prime Minister) was Milosevics' spokesman. Tomislav Nikolic (President of Serbia) well... we all know his story lol. now they're back, after democratically being elected by the people. :: Interesting how the word "extremist" is being used more and more by Western news outlets towards Albanians.
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Post by rex362 on Aug 2, 2012 12:11:04 GMT -5
small incidents ....look at it as a whole
extremists bcs they are ....lot of kosovars with gripes
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Post by rex362 on Aug 2, 2012 13:35:44 GMT -5
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Post by uz on Aug 2, 2012 13:46:35 GMT -5
hahahah oh yeah, let's hear what the shqiptar website/source has to say about the incident. Forget the Italians and their neutral stance (remember, they recognized you).
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Post by rex362 on Aug 2, 2012 14:32:26 GMT -5
yea but the italians could of gotten it from serb sources
hey when I was in yugo in the 1980's on sw1/sw2 radio I use to search news in english on that old Grundig radio reciever on the shelf ....
brithish ,russian in english,greek in english german in english ,VOA Hungarian in english,polish in english etc .....
boy was I confused on world news topics ...everyone had their own take and angle on it ...
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Post by uz on Aug 2, 2012 15:14:35 GMT -5
this is true. too many angles to even count. the situation down there is too fucked up and the sad part is that it'll be a long time till the two peoples' are able to mend their differences. who knows how/when this will happen. it's beyond me.
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Post by rex362 on Aug 2, 2012 15:44:15 GMT -5
Uz ...how many kosovar serbs live south of the Iber river I think I have read that its 2/3 -3/4
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Post by uz on Aug 2, 2012 16:00:53 GMT -5
don't know the numbers. but the point is the Albs expect Serbs to admit some ficticious guilt and the Serbs expect Albs to admit the same sort of wrong-doing in which you all think is ficticious. so it's a dead-end.
while at the same time International Forces/community are exploiting this situation acting all boss giving both sides the false idea their there for peace-stability. Also while doing so giving themsevles more reasons to stay and fuck up the land both peoples' share.
Albs have no choice but to support this (tho many don't and hate America) idea for obvious reasons, without them this predicament wouldn't even exist (Kosovo would be Serbia- and not disputed). Serbs have it easier in this scenario, Serbs owe the International community nothing...this is the legendary flop they laid on us. Honestly... it reminds me to the Ottoman times. When Albs with not much choice joined in there ranks to move up the ladder and gain power/control over Kosovo. For Albs to go against this, and the scenario of today would be considered treason on all levels. TO be a proud Albanian, one must support the USA/NATO no matter what... same as the Ottoman era.
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Post by uz on Aug 2, 2012 16:03:32 GMT -5
it's really an ego-trip. Cause anyone who does any reading or following knows NATO is a criminal organization that shouldn't even exist and that the USA has commited more war crimes than any other country in the world.
look, the Albs have even forgiven NATO for dropping uranium bombs on them while many today are even poisoned.
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Post by rex362 on Aug 2, 2012 16:13:07 GMT -5
the majority of kosovar serbs are trying to be part of the integration/system and the whole problem seems to be from stictly the smaller populations of kosovar serbs up north ....they playing hard ball but what will happen is it will backfire on them eventually bcs nationalists are pushing the buttons and want to see a failed integration
simple as that
stop your crying ottomans ..ottomans booohooo the ottomans ...they left a long time ago and also get it out of your mind that we are them .....
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Post by uz on Aug 2, 2012 16:15:08 GMT -5
I am speaking of reality. The situation is really no different. A Great Empire has entered our territory and our peoples' are split on where they stand, thus creating inter-ethnic conflict.
The tiny population that "intergrated" is due to fear, if there was really a choice they wouldn't. It's not like they support Kosovo being "independant". The majority of Serbs in the North who do not want to intergrate have the right to this choice.
The point is, how come Pristina Alb officials haven't let go of the North if its' peace they want?
Answer; The International community wants control of the ressources there. Simple as that really. No other reason.
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Post by rex362 on Aug 2, 2012 16:15:23 GMT -5
it's really an ego-trip. Cause anyone who does any reading or following knows NATO is a criminal organization that shouldn't even exist and that the USA has commited more war crimes than any other country in the world. look, the Albs have even forgiven NATO for dropping uranium bombs on them while many today are even poisoned. ok ... if nato is criminal org ...then serbs wrote the book ....
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Post by masteralbanianknow on Aug 2, 2012 16:18:59 GMT -5
I am speaking of reality. The situation is really no different. A Great Empire has entered our territory and our peoples' are split on where they stand, thus creating inter-ethnic conflict. The tiny population that "intergrated" is due to fear, if there was really a choice they wouldn't. It's not like they support Kosovo being "independant". The majority of Serbs in the North who do not want to intergrate have the right to this choice. The point is, how come Pristina Alb officials haven't let go of the North if its' peace they want? Answer; The International community wants control of the ressources there. Simple as that really. No other reason. Answer is simple man , have the Serbians in Kosova pack up and leave if its that bad .Every single one has kin in Serbia no doubt
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Post by uz on Aug 2, 2012 16:19:08 GMT -5
it's really an ego-trip. Cause anyone who does any reading or following knows NATO is a criminal organization that shouldn't even exist and that the USA has commited more war crimes than any other country in the world. look, the Albs have even forgiven NATO for dropping uranium bombs on them while many today are even poisoned. ok ... if nato is criminal org ...then serbs wrote the book .... As I said. Albanians are the only Europeans who support NATO and USA's imperial values.
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