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Post by Kanaris on Oct 21, 2012 23:15:07 GMT -5
I thought you were from Macedonia. Thats funny.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 22, 2012 5:16:39 GMT -5
moviments like GD are a gateway to radicalism, balcans people are some backwards people who have a very short lived memory and short sightedness, you can't be calling about a mass expulsion of immigrants when all of us have millions of our own people who have migrated to various countries around the world, from a moral standpoint that is contradiction.
the biggest threat to people in the balcans are inept and corrupt politicians, how about we build proper institutions that are independent of one another and start making officials accountable for their actions? then there'll be no need for hardline moviments that promote hatred and right wing policies, we're going back centuries.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2012 10:05:23 GMT -5
I thought you were from Macedonia. Uz..........The Balkans is Albanian playground .......all of it ! Novi ......I have never said I am Christian
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Post by uz on Oct 22, 2012 16:09:31 GMT -5
I thought you were from Macedonia. Uz..........The Balkans is Albanian playground .......all of it ! Novi ......I have never said I am Christian I'm surprised. I actually gave you more credit but sadly you dissapointed me. You yourself are unware of wtf you are and where you came from. If you can't be consistent on that, then where and how am I expected to see constiency with you anywhere.
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Post by uz on Oct 22, 2012 16:19:09 GMT -5
moviments like GD are a gateway to radicalism, balcans people are some backwards people who have a very short lived memory and short sightedness, you can't be calling about a mass expulsion of immigrants when all of us have millions of our own people who have migrated to various countries around the world, from a moral standpoint that is contradiction. the biggest threat to people in the balcans are inept and corrupt politicians, how about we build proper institutions that are independent of one another and start making officials accountable for their actions? then there'll be no need for hardline moviments that promote hatred and right wing policies, we're going back centuries. there's a difference between immigrants and illegal-immigrants you fuking tool.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 22, 2012 16:42:00 GMT -5
^It's all bullshit. Greece invited these illegal immigrants just like the US does.....cheap labor. Big business always wins.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 22, 2012 17:35:15 GMT -5
there's a difference between immigrants and illegal-immigrants you fuking tool. pipe down you fucking halfwit, grown ups talking
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 22, 2012 18:01:40 GMT -5
^It's all bulls**t. Greece invited these illegal immigrants just like the US does.....cheap labor. Big business always wins. Greece invited Pakis,Aghgans and Iraquis to sneak in through Turkey? Get the fuk outta here.... Golden Dawn is not after Albanians,Serbs and Poles that are legally in Greece... For the record my dad came to Canada in 1958,my uncle put up a $3000 bond for him and signed a waiver in case he got hurt or lost his job.... There was no welfare or unemloyement insurance or free medical for the first 10 years..
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 22, 2012 18:11:14 GMT -5
^It's an EU nation that is trying to model itself after western europe and the US. Is it really that hard to monitor the border with Turkey?
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Post by uz on Oct 22, 2012 18:13:23 GMT -5
^It's an EU nation that is trying to model itself after western europe and the US. Is it really that hard to monitor the border with Turkey? Under the current Government YES. Which is what this is all about What Right does the EU have to critisize Greece for deporting Illegal-immigrants? the term "illegal" is inserted there for a reason.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 22, 2012 18:20:20 GMT -5
^Exactly. Thats what I mean by being allowed in. Kanaris is saying its bullshit. And is GD really gonna do anything to change it? I don't see the EU tolerating that. You want in EU you are compromising your sovereignty. Good luck Greece!
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 22, 2012 18:26:13 GMT -5
I didn't know you were such a moron..I had you for being sharper. Now drop your hate for Greece and put on your thinking cap and reread my second last post in this thread.
Don't forget we have a crap of a country east of us with a porous border... and I m sure they are not sweating catching illegals as they wail through into greece.
Greece is in dire straights.... we don't need no stinking illegals... if you feel sad for them open your doors and take them in.
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Post by uz on Oct 22, 2012 18:28:54 GMT -5
Immigration is a big part of their platform, if they win you be sure they'll follow through but the EU wont tolerate it, you're right about that.
Good to see that you see the EU-scam.
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 22, 2012 18:30:36 GMT -5
FTR,they can take their 'western' culture and shove it up their ass...after all it was the ancient greeks that came up with the concept of a western society..I use to love greece of pre 80's. All greek... everyone was happy... no allophones just greeks,except for the summers when the population would double due to tourists...now that too is threatened...
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 22, 2012 18:32:30 GMT -5
Immigration is a big part of their platform, if they win you be sure they'll follow through but the EU wont tolerate it, you're right about that. Good to see that you see the EU-scam. I don't expect Albanians to understand the problem or even side with Greeks on this matter...
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Post by uz on Oct 22, 2012 18:36:28 GMT -5
Immigration is a big part of their platform, if they win you be sure they'll follow through but the EU wont tolerate it, you're right about that. Good to see that you see the EU-scam. I don't expect Albanians to understand the problem or even side with Greeks on this matter... This is where Babylon nailed it. The albs fear a strong-proud Greece. They fear a Greece that exists for Greeks-first. they have the same sentiments towards Serbia.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 22, 2012 19:02:26 GMT -5
I don't expect Albanians to understand the problem or even side with Greeks on this matter... This is where Babylon nailed it. The albs fear a strong-proud Greece. They fear a Greece that exists for Greeks-first. they have the same sentiments towards Serbia. bs
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 22, 2012 23:15:15 GMT -5
I didn't know you were such a moron..I had you for being sharper. Now drop your hate for Greece and put on your thinking cap and reread my second last post in this thread. Don't forget we have a crap of a country east of us with a porous border... and I m sure they are not sweating catching illegals as they wail through into greece. Greece is in dire straights.... we don't need no stinking illegals... if you feel sad for them open your doors and take them in. You're an idiot. I'm not advocating for Greece to allow illegals. I'm criticizing it for letting it happen. Do you not understand basic English?
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 22, 2012 23:19:12 GMT -5
Uz and Kanaris f**k off. What interest do Albanians have to see a weak Greece. Albanians blindly want to get into EU. Same s**t will happen there.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 23, 2012 3:15:57 GMT -5
uz, i implore you to stop participating on this topic as you are completely out of your element and you go off on a different tangent all the time, kindly go fuck yourself.
mike, greece is an EU country, it sought membership out of its own free well, when you make such a committent you adhere to certain rules and basic social standards, thant includes dealing with immigrants in a humane way and following pocedure.
my point was about GD manifesto, their central thesis and core values of such a party, they hold immigrants accountable, they promote a greece for greeks only, they call for a christian greece which is islam-free...they do not distinguish between legal or illegal, they out all foreigners in the same bracket, this type of mindet undermines what you signed on for when you received EU tenureship, goes against the very western values you aspired to but now tha its not convenient you say 'fuck the west'.
the west did not bring about this utter mess in greece, immigrants certainly did not(if anything immigrants gave your economy a massive boost at its peak). It was greeks that caused all of this, your ineptitude, inability to forge independant institutions, failure to curve your greedy ways....you can't put lipstick on a pig i am afraid(pardon the pun).
now GD comes out of the woodwork with a shiny new set of radical views to rally up all greek people behind them and cater to a country which is going through social and economical upheal and struggling to hold on to the last straw....by blaming the easiest of target, immigrants. Why are immigrants such a major cause of concern?? Greece doesn't even offer any social benefits, no hausing, it has virtually zero responsibility towards them, oh i get it they have taken over a couple of neighbourhoods in athens and it is not as clean as it used to be and they steal a few purses every now and then, DAMN YOU PAKIS! you ruined our financial eco-system!
immigrants in Greece are severily secluded and marginalised, they barely feature in day to day life, how are they threatening your ways?
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