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Post by Kanaris on Dec 5, 2012 19:22:47 GMT -5
So how can we identify people if a given name is not important? They are not here to explain it to us. How can someone named Christos Papanicholaou be albanian?
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Post by littleboyfatman on Dec 5, 2012 19:29:47 GMT -5
So how can we identify people if*given name is not important? They are not here to explain it to us. How can someone named Christos Papanicholaou be albanian? well Diva Thin Muffin Pigeen Zappa what is name is this? greek? american? german?
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 5, 2012 20:58:20 GMT -5
Frank Zappa was half Greek and half Sicilian...
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Post by littleboyfatman on Dec 5, 2012 21:04:05 GMT -5
Frank Zappa was half Greek and half Sicilian... i didnt asked you for frank zappa...
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 5, 2012 21:08:42 GMT -5
Well you should have instead of making names up.
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Post by littleboyfatman on Dec 5, 2012 21:12:38 GMT -5
Well you should have instead of making names up. so you ganna tell me what im gonna ask you? lets all students tell their teacher what will he ask them on a test... thats how it goes in greece... maybe...
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 5, 2012 21:14:21 GMT -5
Okay Pandeli,no problem.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 6, 2012 1:46:15 GMT -5
your Toma Preljubovic abused his power when stepping on lands that did not belong to him in the 1300's .. didnt we Albanians kill his dada oh and Toma was killed by his own in Janina and his wife had nothing but Albanian & Vlach lovers see that whole clan of the byzantines were a mix of Bulgars ,serbs and Albanians vlachs and possibly Armenian originally like the dukes of europe from high blooded crazy people that did nothing but kill their own for power...one group loved the green of epirus i dont care who Serb raped what alb. none of my business. FACT my lil cousin boy is that Serbs/Slavs created : - ONE CHURCH (archimandrio) - ONE CASTLE (the castle of Janina) - ONE town JANINA (Janina = daughter of Jana) What did albs created? nothing... so shut the fuck up... Also, why is OLYTSIKA is not name by a vlah / alb word? Why SMOLIKAS is not name by a vlah / alb word? I mean they are huge mountains .... so??? what is your explanation? Weren't the albo-vlahs supposed to be living on top of the mountains....
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Post by atdhetar on Dec 6, 2012 6:14:14 GMT -5
So how can we identify people if*given name is not important? They are not here to explain it to us. How can someone named Christos Papanicholaou be albanian? what are you talking about mike? you changed all you names, you went on a name changing rampage, you made all albanians, vlachs, slavs and turks adopt byzantine greek names, you changed all the placenames in northern part of greece....you can't just auto adjust the organic flow of nature and assume a manufactured image of yourself and then look at us and tell us that we bear a resemblance to your fake new identity, greece of today is different to that of 200 years ago, greeks do not get to claim byzantine, they had a great deal of influence but it was not greek, it was comprised of all the ethnicities in the balcans and it was under roman administration, you do not get to take ownership of everything byzantine, that includes names, just like you do not own th orthodox religion, you have assimilated, persecuted, intimidated minorities, forged your national identities and renamed your toponyms, you guys can not hold up yourselfs to be the higher authority in matters of ethnicity.
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 6, 2012 6:51:22 GMT -5
There are still albanians giving their kids Greek names.... I don't think 'forced' is the right word to use... more of let's go with the flow type of thing and name ourselves to the most popular and powerful nation of the time. This leads me back to my albanian coworker Mehmet.
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Post by atdhetar on Dec 6, 2012 7:13:03 GMT -5
but that is not indicative it of anything dude, parents are giving their kids italian and english names left, right and centre...that doesn't make us any of those nationalities, no one here claimed that greece influenced certain parts of albania historically, that's not the point, you are saying that because someone is named sotir he is greek.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 6, 2012 7:35:33 GMT -5
You telling me the Illyrians didnt produce one single nobleman from 100 to 1000 ad? Kanaris my friend, when the Slavs arrived in Greek/Byzantine territory, especially in Justinians time, many slavs made up the ranks of Byzantine authority/religion etc....whilst there were ZERO ALBANIAN/SHQIPTARS.....why?.....they were still over in Azerbaijan, living in the town called Barda (Bardhe). So my question to people like Rex, wheres the Shqiptars in Byzantine military, government, religion at 5th and 6th centuries?
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 6, 2012 9:06:46 GMT -5
There has to be an albanian clan leader or nobleman of the 5th century.... god dammit it why is it so elusive?
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Post by atdhetar on Dec 6, 2012 9:54:05 GMT -5
Because they were roman subjects and rome did not allow parallel power structures, were there many greek ones?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 6, 2012 10:07:55 GMT -5
Because they were roman subjects and rome did not allow parallel power structures, were there many greek ones? don't know about "nobble" men, but this Greek Mathematician Lady el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%A5%CF%80%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%AF%CE%B1 from 5th century is an example that at least ... Greeks existed back then. (in contrast to albs who where climbing the trees in chechnya)
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Post by rex362 on Dec 6, 2012 10:35:02 GMT -5
In Egypt ...in its pre-prime ^ not Janinna
durring that time we ....Yea WE Our people yours and mine the same back then were being run around by past and future empires we were trying to steal the same chicken to feed the clans bcs all the good meat was going to Alexandria and Constantinople .......
Pyrros Vlah ...who had time in our area's to put their young boy on their shoulders and gaze at the stars teaching them philosophy while wearing nice sandals and white robes ?
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Post by littleboyfatman on Dec 6, 2012 15:33:43 GMT -5
wtf
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 6, 2012 17:14:09 GMT -5
There has to be an albanian clan leader or nobleman of the 5th century.... god dammit it why is it so elusive? Ah Kanaris, you need to be aware of the MOUNTAIN THEORY (Austrian devised, missing link). The Mountain theory speaks of Albanian-Shqiptars inhabiting high up in the mountains, out of sight from civilisation below, they watched like gods, surviving off ice for a 1000 years, until Michael Attaliates went up there to call them down. Always remember of the MOUNTAIN THEORY, its a great western solution to the continuity of Illyrians to Shqiptars.....preserved high in the Mountains to be, as John Wilkes would say, "Short, dark skinned Albanians"
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Post by tsompanos on Dec 6, 2012 21:38:59 GMT -5
albanians are so jealous of greeks its funny, just keep talking out of your asses and claiming ridiculous ideas it's just funny to watch and proves my point.
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 6, 2012 22:06:21 GMT -5
There has to be an albanian clan leader or nobleman of the 5th century.... god dammit it why is it so elusive? Ah Kanaris, you need to be aware of the MOUNTAIN THEORY (Austrian devised, missing link). The Mountain theory speaks of Albanian-Shqiptars inhabiting high up in the mountains, out of sight from civilisation below, they watched like gods, surviving off ice for a 1000 years, until Michael Attaliates went up there to call them down. Always remember of the MOUNTAIN THEORY, its a great western solution to the continuity of Illyrians to Shqiptars.....preserved high in the Mountains to be, as John Wilkes would say, "Short, dark skinned Albanians" Thats why they call them the Eagles....
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