Slavic toponyms of Epirus

[Deleted]

enlighten me, it seems that most of the slavic toponyms are bulgarian but maybe not? what happened to the slavs that once lived there?

[littleboyfatman]

Jan 16, 2013 19:06:13 GMT -5 @sorcelow said:

enlighten me, it seems that most of the slavic toponyms are bulgarian but maybe not? what happened to the slavs that once lived there?

they got to bulgaria to serbify themselfes...

[rex362]

For all you greeks to read and enjoy

Τό
σωστό είναι πώς οί "Ηπειρώτες στή μεγάλη τους πλειοψηφία ήταν Ιλλυριοί.
Σέ ποιά δμως ράτσα άνήκανε δέν τό~ξέρουμε. Τό μόνο πού είναι πολύ
πιθανό είναι δτι στά παραθαλάσσια τής "Ηπείρου άπ' τά προελληνικά χρόνια
ήρθαν Φοίνικες.
p.172

[Kralj Vatra]

Jan 16, 2013 19:06:13 GMT -5 @sorcelow said:

enlighten me, it seems that most of the slavic toponyms are bulgarian but maybe not? what happened to the slavs that once lived there?

www.fallingrain.com/world/index.html is your self-debunking tool.

good luck. hopefully you will get self-debunked once and for all.

NOTE

some : bulgarisms (e.g Suha vs Suva, Svoboda vs Sloboda, etc...) may VERY WELL be connected with Russians/Ukranians rather than Bulgarians...

bear in mind that when those slavs came to Greece, Bulgars were still speaking an non-slavic language.

[rex362]

The Bulgars with their Church Slavonic laid the foundation for anything Slavo Balkan alphabet and language and sorry to say but a mocked up history so to give it some sort of substance to stand on .

[rex362]

[Kanaris]

Jan 31, 2013 9:30:54 GMT -5 rex362 said:

Priceless,where's Chentovist who thinks he's Macedonian from 3000 years ago....  

[Kralj Vatra]

Jan 31, 2013 9:30:54 GMT -5 rex362 said:

LMAO!!!!

CANT HELP IT!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!

dude Bulgaria was founded by non-Slav Khans in 681 AD LOL!!!!!

Agree that Bulgaria absorbed much of the slavic element of Thrakia, etc..... where current Bulgaria exists..

But to link those old slavs to Bulgars is so amusing !!!!

It is like saying that the Saxons of northern Germany are ..... AMERICANS!!! lol just because some *OTHER* saxons (English) *MUCH* later founded a country based on this Saxonic (English) language.

This is hilarious ...

please ...

[Kralj Vatra]

I have read strategikon. Nothing about Bulgarians. All he mentions is "SLAVENOI".

So i see you bitches like to talk with irrelevant rantings ...

Wanna get into a REAL toponym contest

PS

also it is amusing to see chechens licking Slavic butts (Rex licking Bulgarians), .... if only this chechen had felt the Bulgarian sword... he would not talk like this ... lol.....

albs are the most pathetic creatures of earth.

[rex362]

thats all you got bro ...?



just translate this chit for me and stfu ...its a school project for me


Lampros Koutsonikas
Genikē historia tēs Hellēnikēs Epanastaseōs

[Kralj Vatra]

stop jumping from defeat to defeat. Be a real man and fight till death.

now bring me some proof that the Bulgarian-like toponyms of ipiros/albania are more numerous than the Serbian-like.

come on... uncle *not* is awaiting ...

[rex362]

ah yes ..."uncle Pyrros will show the way "


ahhahhahahahahahahahahaha


anyways ...I just needed a fast translation ...and thats only bcs when I have you do these translations and deciphered by you ....its just a standard I set on what/how you translate for future reference bcs Rexxy always knows what it says I am just simply metering your responses .....thanks anyway bro

[rex362]

Uncle Pyrros ....how can you mention serbian toponyms in our areas when serbia itself has Bulgarian toponyms ?


you ever been in staribrod or vosiligrad  ? 


your a traveled man

[rex362]

and uncle dont forget to look up

Ivan Asen II of Bulgaria

[rex362]

Slavic toponyms simple as that ....especially when it came to old church slavonic

Slavic is not specifically only serbian just bcs counting 1-10 is the same ...malaka vlacho

[rex362]

uncle Pyrros ..do this one for me ..


books.google.com/books?id=GX1EAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA181&dq=%CE%A0%CF%81%CF%8E%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B9+%CE%BA%CE%AC%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B9+%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82+%CE%97%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%AF%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%85+%CE%99%CE%BB%CE%BB%CF%85%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%BF%CE%AF&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BL0LUaCEEpDptQaCoIHgCQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%CE%A0%CF%81%CF%8E%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CE%BA%CE%AC%CF%84%CE%BF%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B9%20%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%82%20%CE%97%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%AF%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%85%20%CE%99%CE%BB%CE%BB%CF%85%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%BF%CE%AF&f=false


this one in greek book puts Illyrians same as Dardans


Ίλλυριοϋ Δέρδα   / same people ...same race

 the purpose of this book was/is to prove at any cost that anything Epirotica was greek from the beginning.....It is interesting how the author accepts an Illyrian element....although limits in its separate parts so to weaken it and make it obscure like  ....the continuation of the passage is a ranking of some selected arguments based on freewheeling interpretations of Herodotus, Polybius ect.... even though  ongoing part speaks for  an Epir of Pelasgians.

[kartadolofonos]

bla  bla bla ...

Slavic toponyms of Epirus !!

But how were all these Slavic name? Historically we know that the Slavic invasions in Greece started in 5th-6th AD century and toponyms in Epirus were estimated in the 7th century. According to the linguist Max Vasmer Epirus recorded 412 Slavic names, which sometimes were simply translations of older Greek names.

[atdhetar]

Agree 100% with you re kartaqi just replace greek with albanian and you've nailed.

[Deleted]

Feb 2, 2013 4:53:13 GMT -5 atdhetar said:

Agree 100% with you re kartaqi just replace greek with albanian and you've nailed.

lol

[Kralj Vatra]

Feb 1, 2013 23:03:26 GMT -5 kartadolofonos said:

bla  bla bla ...

Slavic toponyms of Epirus !!

But how were all these Slavic name? Historically we know that the Slavic invasions in Greece started in 5th-6th AD century and toponyms in Epirus were estimated in the 7th century. According to the linguist Max Vasmer Epirus recorded 412 Slavic names, which sometimes were simply translations of older Greek names.

bro you know this is royal BS.

Max Vasmer's book came in 1940s+, and contains not even 20% of the total slavic placenames of Greece.
Much earlier in 1926-1928 and in other waves as well, there have been MASSIVE greekifications of the toponyms
to make them sound non-slavic.

Proof?

There you have it :  pandektis.ekt.gr/pandektis/handle/10442/4968

for every "Profitis Ilias" or "Agia Marina" most probably there used to be a Slavic/Serbian tponym there before 1920.

In fact, i do not know of more than 2-3 villages in Epiros which had no Slavic/Serbian previous placename.