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Post by Duke John on Feb 24, 2013 21:24:05 GMT -5
-BIG POW !-
that should leave them speechless for a few days on this thread.......
They will come with somekind of attempted explanation and filozofizaishon but it will be waste of time, some people sometimes speak something that they cant or dont understand, i dont know if they happen to know also about this: JOHN CHRYSOSTOM forbids use of Greek names«None must call his children the (Greek) ancestors' names, be that of their father, their mother, their grandfather or their great grandfather, but instead you must use those of the righteous (of the Old Testament). books.google.fi/books/about/S_Joannis_Chrysostomi_De_inani_gloria_et.html?id=A4r07SUUbj4C&redir_esc=y
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 24, 2013 23:35:08 GMT -5
We saw the ills of our ways....you didn't...thats the difference,plus they were OUR ANTIQUITES NOT YOURS.
You have done nothing but try it ride on the coattails.... There is nothing you Albanians can bring to the table that will surprise me..
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 24, 2013 23:36:57 GMT -5
-BIG POW !-
that should leave them speechless for a few days on this thread.......
They will come with somekind of attempted explanation and filozofizaishon but it will be waste of time, some people sometimes speak something that they cant or dont understand, i dont know if they happen to know also about this: JOHN CHRYSOSTOM forbids use of Greek names«None must call his children the (Greek) ancestors' names, be that of their father, their mother, their grandfather or their great grandfather, but instead you must use those of the righteous (of the Old Testament). books.google.fi/books/about/S_Joannis_Chrysostomi_De_inani_gloria_et.html?id=A4r07SUUbj4C&redir_esc=yIs that why his last name is Chrystotomos? Go play with your buick and leave the adult stuff alone.... one day you might wake up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 6:45:14 GMT -5
That man "Rassias", is related to me...
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 25, 2013 7:00:03 GMT -5
whenever mike has nothing to retaliate with he says ' you cannot be right because you are a muslim' and he propagates this absurdity further by stating that because albs are muslims we are bretheren with all other muslims of the world,
now i can undrestand those inbreds in greece that are religious freaks and believe anything papu stavros tells them but a person that has lived in canada all his life?
according to mike the participation of people in a conversation is determined by their religion and essentially you can only be right if you are a greek and a christian, by being a muslim you have automatically a skewed image of the world, the truth ultimately resides with kreeks because they are god's chosen ones.
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 25, 2013 7:07:56 GMT -5
kyre eleison amin...
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 25, 2013 8:59:09 GMT -5
ejvalla!
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Post by Duke John on Feb 25, 2013 9:31:35 GMT -5
We saw the ills of our ways....you didn't...thats the difference,plus they were OUR ANTIQUITES NOT YOURS. You have done nothing but try it ride on the coattails.... There is nothing you Albanians can bring to the table that will surprise me.. If you really saw the problems as you desperately now try to explain, you would not write such things in the first place, at this point you shouldent even respond, i think i made clear to you how out of common sense your comment was. No one is trying to ride on the coattails of anyone, if we talk about ancient events, in some cases there is no clear borderline of whom and what people did, there was events of ancient era that some neighbouring people were involved in some events. Did i say that your stones belong to us? so why such childish comment: "OUR ANTIQUITES NOT YOURS", so an outsider can not participate in discussion? is that what you try to say? Now back to your way of thinking, you pulled the religion card, you gave the impression that you are christian and buy that you must be a real christian, if you are then the valuation of artifacts are contrary to your religion, you dont make no sense, deside either you are real greek and a hellen or you are a christian that is against of ancient hellenes, your religion does not allow to valuate artifacts, culture and such of the pagan era, your understanding of religion and other stuff seems to be blur. There is nothing ME as a Albanian to bring something that would suprise you, same goes to you, there is nothing YOU as a Greek to bring something that would suprise me.
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Post by Duke John on Feb 25, 2013 9:48:00 GMT -5
They will come with somekind of attempted explanation and filozofizaishon but it will be waste of time, some people sometimes speak something that they cant or dont understand, i dont know if they happen to know also about this: JOHN CHRYSOSTOM forbids use of Greek names«None must call his children the (Greek) ancestors' names, be that of their father, their mother, their grandfather or their great grandfather, but instead you must use those of the righteous (of the Old Testament). books.google.fi/books/about/S_Joannis_Chrysostomi_De_inani_gloria_et.html?id=A4r07SUUbj4C&redir_esc=yIs that why his last name is Chrystotomos? Go play with your buick and leave the adult stuff alone.... one day you might wake up. He said that not according to his last name but according to his religion, his last name was given after his death a greek epithet(attributed, added or just simply a byname) as chrysostomos, meaning "golden mouthed", so this name does not go contrary to his religion, he dident have greek ancestors names in this case the pagan names that hellenes use to have, i dont know what you tryed to say but you absolutely made no sense. You have very strong and overweening comments without concern, as in this discussion is seen it might be you who should leave stuff alone that you have no idea of, i dont need to wake up, i am awake. Are you?
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Post by Duke John on Feb 25, 2013 9:57:20 GMT -5
That man "Rassias", is related to me... He has some interesting books, first i was douptfull about the sources he uses but looking at them they are accurate.
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 25, 2013 10:39:45 GMT -5
Is that why his last name is Chrystotomos? Go play with your buick and leave the adult stuff alone.... one day you might wake up. You have very strong and overweening comments without concern, as in this discussion is seen it might be you who should leave stuff alone that you have no idea of, Pretty much mimicking most of the albanians here with their claims..99% of Rexxy's claims show no concern at all... as to their impact just spewing as it comes... If we are gonna have a real discussion about history then let's have it... not gonna stand there and read paragraph after paragraph of unsubstantiated writings from unknown authors about how Albanians were the real Ancient Greeks and that present day Greece is filled with gypsies and turks...How the Albanian race stood the test of time and stayed pure in a place like the Balkans...
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 25, 2013 10:53:08 GMT -5
you are incapable of having a serious conversation, unbiased and impartial when it comes to albanian, the hint is in your comment here you allege these authors are unknown therefore we are to dismiss their claims,
first of all, aside from rex at times going overboard with his claims, which is a ploy to get under your skin, he can corroborate most of his claims by providing sources, he is the only one to consistently provide sources,
these authors are all legit mike and its not only one, it is literally a plethora of them, they're far too many to dismiss, the ethnic composition of comtemporary greek is a real question and one which is more relevant today more than ever, too many of your myths have been exposed and refuted,
i would not go so far as to say greeks have nothing to do with ancient greeks, that's be absurd but its also unfair that you try to live off their glory.
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 25, 2013 11:22:21 GMT -5
I am not living off their glory but I will protect them against outlandish claims.I lived on the land I speak their language I live their culture there is no history of anyone else in my family being anything but Greek we have Greek names.. therefore we are Greek.I dismiss most of the authors and notice I said 'most' not all because they are one hit wonders with an opinion.
Lets see some writing from historians such as Gustove Glotz,Richrd C.Hall,Raymond Detrez... and so on...
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Post by rex362 on Feb 25, 2013 16:38:27 GMT -5
are these considered ...."and so on" ...? just a few
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Post by rex362 on Feb 25, 2013 17:27:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 17:32:45 GMT -5
Everything you post is of no importance. We know literally nothing of illyrians, pelasgians, and thracians, so everything these authors say has no proof whatsoever. Rex, I recommend that you start thinking for yourself and listen to common sense.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 25, 2013 17:43:54 GMT -5
Everything you post is of no importance. We know literally nothing of illyrians, pelasgians, and thracians, so everything these authors say has no proof whatsoever. Rex, I recommend that you start thinking for yourself and listen to common sense. The sources they use don't even answer the most important questions. Why did it have to take an oppressive communict regime to "revive" these claims, when their own ancestors prior to Hoxha's time were'nt holding this position.
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 25, 2013 18:43:24 GMT -5
Don't break Rexxy bubble. These sources are just merely saying "maybe" 'supposed' 'unclear' 'most probably' and 'shrouded in mystery" in that sense I too most probably banged Jennifer Aniston last night...
Use your time Rexxy boy on doing research on Albanians between those dreaded times I have told you.... find famous albanians or clan leaders of those dark ages... not just a mention of name that resembles the word Albanian.. Surely you can come up with something...
Why don't you start with some Greek and super analyze his name and put a twist to it that he's most likely an albanian... then we'll take it from there.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 25, 2013 18:43:30 GMT -5
Everything you post is of no importance. We know literally nothing of illyrians, pelasgians, and thracians, so everything these authors say has no proof whatsoever. Rex, I recommend that you start thinking for yourself and listen to common sense. we know that you ignore them all and don't even look at them for over a second
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Post by rex362 on Feb 25, 2013 18:46:21 GMT -5
Don't break Rexxy bubble. These sources are just merely saying "maybe" 'supposed' 'unclear' 'most probably' and 'shrouded in mystery" in that sense I too most probably banged Jennifer Aniston last night... Use your time Rexxy boy on doing research on Albanians between those dreaded times I have told you.... find famous albanians or clan leaders of those dark ages... not just a mention of name that resembles the word Albanian.. Surely you can come up with something... Why don't you start with some Greek and super analyze his name and put a twist to it that he's most likely an albanian... then we'll take it from there. your vili no worky that good for Jenny we dont put Lemon & Oregano on everything to make it greek like you guys
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