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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 15, 2013 0:43:18 GMT -5
^^^^ very correct, but there is more!!!! My grandpa served as luetenant in the greek army in the north ipiros front... He wrote down every detail... (the first i know of having such a determination to detailed description of events.. must have been due to remote SERBIAN ancestry, if i judge by the surname)... Well, there was NOT A SINGLE FIGHT AGAINST GERMANS.... When the army was commanded to withdraw, the process was anarchic, any one could steal weapons, ammunition, animals, artillery, machinery , etc.... My grandpa, NOT BEING AN ALBANIAN (like the majority of neo-greeks), decided to lead his team in discipline and return to south Ipiros , and deliver the animals, machinery to whatever had remained of the state. SURPRISE!!! passing through the villages of thesprotia .... the locals .... stole the animals!!!! LOL!!! does this remind the story with Bush's watch ?? LMAO!!! yes!!!, and then granndpa told the older man there, that they better return the stolen animals or they will get all shot in their f**king albanian head..!! That is the heroic greece!!! LMAO!!!! LMAO to the bone... Now what this albo-karta says about yugoslaviia is natural... I SAY THIS FOR THE 100000000th time... GREEK-SERBIAN FRIENDSHIP IS AN ENGLISH JOKE.... Those albanian snakes CAN BARELY ACCEPT THEIR SUPERIOR AS EQUAL........ NO!!! they want to be the superior!!! See how this albanian s**t karta puts out hatred against anything slavic/common here? He does not know that amount of germans assigned of guuarding ex-yu was in the ranks of 500,000 whereas in greece some peanuts here and there?? (ONLY IN CRETE HAD GERMANS FULL DIVISIONS... CAUSE CRETANS ARE TRUE INDO_EUROPEANS WARRIORS JUST LIKE THE TRUE SLAVS = SERBS). And now, what most greeks dont wanna hear... and really really hate..... numbers..... the foe of Karta... who wakes up and sleeps with what those clowns (Curchill) said..... Well well welll 60,000 greeks soldiers died during the civil war (44-50). LESS THAN THAT IN THE 39-44 war + occupation!!!! LESS THAN THAT IN THE 39-44 war + occupation!!!! LESS THAN THAT IN THE 39-44 war + occupation!!!! LESS THAN THAT IN THE 39-44 war + occupation!!!! f**kING SURREAL!!!! When about 1,000,000 SERBS and other TRUE SLAVS died by the german bullet ... In every Serb family *someone* was killed by Germans.... in greek families ? hmmmmmm if they dont belong to dikorfo or kalavryta massacres (1000 ppl in total) then simply no!!! NO RESISTANCE!!! LOL BUT!!! lots of people talk about a heroic 500,000 greeks dead in the WWII... hmmmm!!! LOLZZZZ those are the victims of FAMINE.... caused when .... this pig, this antichrist, this deamon named CHRCHILL (and whom this pitiful albanian karta just quoted in PRIDE LOL! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO) ... decided to cut-off pireaues port.... to put pressure in the communists ... 500,000 instant deaths at CHURCHILL DISPOSAL.... Later, when Greece came (naturally) into the sphere of England/USA those 500,000 became the HEROES!!! karta, you are laughable ... The west has created a very funny nation, not able to organize not even the basics...... (let alone think)... let some greeks self-organize and they are gonna blow themselves up in minutes... or start fights .... all this in peace!!! not war!! LOL
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 15, 2013 8:56:18 GMT -5
I have respect for greeks defending their fatherland. and you have nothing in common with your grandpa what a shame... Slavoromanianvlach !!
Stop to write Bulls**t here ....
People dont believe the fairy tales of sorryp,because he is a complete idiooot !
How to detect bulls**t - written by 'Silly' and a 'Laughable idiot , Pyrros,sorryp,Balkaneros
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Indeed, the Nazis feared the fierce Greek Resistance fighters so much that Hitler was .... with the 3½ years during which Greece was occupied by the Axis powers.
Greece was the only country to stand against the Pact of Steel and the dreaded Nazi and Fascist regimes of Adolf Hitler and Mussolini.
The Greeks where truly the best/bravest soldiers. First off, at a speech at the Reichstag, Hitler said that the Greeks where the best and bravest warriors that they had ever faced... Here are some quotes... 1. "For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only the Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death.." - Adolf Hitler (speech he gave at Reichstag, 4 May 1941)
"The word heroism I am afraid does not render the least of those acts of self-sacrifice of the Greeks, which were the defining factor in the victorious outcome of the common struggle of the nations, during WWII, for the human freedom and dignity. If it were not for the bravery of the Greeks and their courage, the outcome of WW II would be undetermined." - Winston Churchill (speech to British Parliament, 24 April 1941)
"Until now we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes. Now we shall say: The heroes fight like Greeks." - Winston Churchill (From a speech he delivered from the BBC in the first days of the Greco-Italian war)
"I am sorry because I am getting old and I shall not live long to thank the Greek People, whose resistance decided WW II." - Joseph Stalin (From a speech of his broadcast by the Moscow radio station on 31 January 1943 after the victory of Stalingrad and the capitulation of German 6th Army Field Marshal Von Paulus)
"If the Russian people managed to raise resistance at the doors of Moscow to halt and reverse the German torrent, they owe it to the Greek People, who delayed the German divisions during the time they could bring us to our knees." - Georgy Constantinovich Zhoukov (Field Marshal of the Soviet Army: Quote from his memoirs on WWII)
"Regardless of what the future historians shall say, what we can say now, is that Greece gave Mussolini an unforgettable lesson, that she was the motive for the revolution in Yugoslavia, that she held the Germans in the mainland and in Crete for six weeks, that she upset the chronological order of all German High Command's plans and thus brought a general reversal of the entire course of the war and we won." - Sir Robert Antony Eden (Minister of War and the Exterior of Britain 1940-1945, Prime Minister of Britain 1955-1957 - Paraphrased from a speech of his to the British Parliament on 24/09/1942)
"It would not be an exaggeration to say that Greece upset the plans of Germany in their entirety forcing her to postpone the attack on Russia for six weeks. We wonder what would have been Soviet Union's position without Greece." - Sir Harold Leofric George Alexander (British Field Marshal during WWII -Paraphrased from a speech of his to the British parliament on 28 October 1941)
"I am unable to give the proper breadth of gratitude I feel for the heroic resistance of the People and the leaders of Greece." - Charles de Gaul (From a speech of his to the French Parliament after the end of WWII).
"Greece is the symbol of the tortured, bloodied but live Europe. Never a defeat was so honorable for those who suffered it." - Maurice Schumann Minister of the exterior of France 1969-1973, member of the French Academy 1974 (From a message of his he addressed from the BBC of London to the enslaved peoples of Europe on 28 April 1941, the day Hitler occupied Athens after a month war against Mussolini and six weeks against Hitler).
"You fought unarmed and won, small against big. We owe you gratitude, because you gave us time to defend ourselves. As Russians and as people we thank you." - Moscow, Radio Station When Hitler attacked the U.S.S.R
"The war with Greece proved that nothing is firm in the military and that surprises always await us." - Benito Mussolini (From speech he delivered on 10/5/1941)
"On the 28th of October 1940 Greece was given a deadline of three hours to decide on war or peace but even if a three day or three week or three year were given, the response would have been the same. The Greeks taught dignity throughout the centuries. When the entire world had lost all hope, the Greek people dared to question the invincibility of the German monster raising against it the proud spirit of freedom." - Franklin D Roosevelt, US President 1933 - 1945
"The heroic struggle of the Greek people... Against Germany 's attack, after she so thunderously defeated the Italians in their attempt to invade the Greek soil, filled the hearts of the American people with enthusiasm and moved their compassion." - Franklin D Roosevelt, US President 1933 - 1945
On 10 April 1941, after the Greek capitulation to Germany, the northern forts of Greece surrendered. The Germans express their admirations to Greek soldiers, declared that they were honored and proud to have as their adversary such an Army and request that the Greek commandant inspect the German army in a demonstration of honor and recognition! The German flag was raised only after the complete withdrawal of the Greek Army ****
A German officer of the air force declared to the commander of the Eastern Macedonia division group, Lieutenant General Dedes, that the Greek Arm was the first army on which the Stuka fighter planes did not cause panic. "Your soldiers" he said, "instead of fleeing frantically, as they did in France and Poland, were shooting at us from their positions."
if you think about it, without the greeks stalling the germans, germans would have taken the soviets and then the axis would have been victorious, causing many other things to happen.
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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 15, 2013 10:15:07 GMT -5
little ignorant albanian...
if Greeks were so heroic against the germans.. lay down the vcitims... by country
Czech Slovakia Ukraine Poland RUSSIA Yugoslavia
come on albanian... show to all of us the GREAT NUMBERS OF GREEK VICTIMS....
come on.....
let us hear NUMBERS...
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 15, 2013 10:40:21 GMT -5
ridiculous slavoromanianvlach accept it !
the quotes said all ...
the greeks where truly the best/bravest soldiers the greeks , fight like heroes. therefore the greeks they have no so much victims.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 15, 2013 13:54:39 GMT -5
karta, why are you quoting Stalin? He was a satanic beast responsible first-hand for the greatest genocide in European modern-history against Europeans. If it were up to him he would have slaughtered the Greeks the same way he was slaughtering Russians for communism. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Of course he will cheer the Greeks if the Greeks are fighting the Germans, don't be fooled. Churchill was a war monger it was his fault shit went upside in Europe and why communism ultimately won. here's a golden quote; "You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or national socialism, but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all, regardless of whether it is in the hands of Hitler or a Jesuit priest". Source - Winston Churchill His Career In War and Peace by Emrys Hughes page 145 "I have always said that if Great Britain were defeated in war I hoped we should find a Hitler to lead us back to our rightful position among the nations. I am sorry, however, that he has not been mellowed by the great success that has attended him. The whole world would rejoice to see the Hitler of peace and tolerance, and nothing would adorn his name in world history so much as acts of magnanimity and of mercy and of pity to the forlorn and friendless, to the weak and poor. ... Let this great man search his own heart and conscience before he accuses anyone of being a warmonger." -Churchill Churchill never took negotiations with Hitler seriously enough to (want to) prevent war, this is the part of history which is hidden from us. The "west" was pushing for war the same way the West-today pushes for war, and guess what... and it's for the same reasons.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2013 19:17:07 GMT -5
ALBS IN THEIR OWN BACK YARDS .....Albs in greece
OPA !
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2013 19:18:37 GMT -5
more .....
OPA !
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2013 19:22:19 GMT -5
and OPA ! Karta
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 15, 2013 21:10:40 GMT -5
Stalin the butcher killed 20million people ... www.everyculture.com/Russia-Eurasia-China/Greeks-History-and-Cultural-Relations.htmlWithout the Greek resistance, the German military would have for sure taken the U.S.S.R. hands down, (It was the summer) By the end of the resistance happened (which I believe was done at the perfect time, but somewhat by fluke,) it was the cold, harsh Soviet winter, which not only was it impossible to take the USSR, but the Germans were not prone to winter warfare. (Blitzkrieg) Greater Germany lost WW2 smashed once and for all !!! The End of Greater Germany !! upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Deutscher_Bund.png1. Germany, Germany above all * Above everything in the world * When, always, for protection and defense Brothers stand together. From the Maas to the Memel From the Etsch to the Belt, Germany, Germany above all Above all in the world. 2. German women, German fidelity, German wine and German song, Shall retain, throughout the world, Their old respected fame, To inspire us to noble deeds For the length of our lives. German women, German fidelity, German wine and German song. 3. Unity and right and freedom For the German Fatherland; Let us all strive to this goal Brotherly, with heart and hand. Unity and rights and freedom Are the pledge of fortune grand. Prosper in this fortune's glory, Prosper German fatherland. *The sentiment of the first two lines is: "Esteemed above everything in the world", (as most citizens express of their homeland) not "rulers of the world." At the time it was written, it was a call to unite the many independent states into one unified Germany. Verse 4. was a short-lived afterthought by another author and is seldom seen. Today only the third verse is the official anthem but there are movements that consider even the second verse offensive and that wish to ban the entire song.
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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 16, 2013 1:52:52 GMT -5
First i want to correct this albanian karta: Germans had airbases around Beograd and could flatten the capital since day one, without moving forces into yugoslav ground. The same technique employed by NATO, who with the help of Turkey, Italy, GREECE, and other satanic prostitutes of horor, used the airbases of Italy and Greece to attack Serbs from the ... stratosphere.... And, in addition, between the operation begun and till BG was surrendered, passed ONE WHOLE MONTH. Now.... Marita??? LOL... germans had no airbases near athens... HOWEVER!!! ON FOOT!!! Germans managed to strike through the BRITISH resistance, capturing 8000 BRITISH soldiers, and reaching Athens (i repeat on foot) ... in just 3 weeks!!! LMAO!!!! Needless to say, the same .... BRITISH later put in death easily 500,000 greeks, in order to put pressure on the communists (who were the only group capable of self-organizing and effectively fighting against the Germans). British supported EAM ELAS for 8 years 41-49 and finally fucked them as they do with anyone. karta, why are you quoting Stalin? He was a satanic beast responsible first-hand for the greatest genocide in European modern-history against Europeans. Man, in all respect, stop being pro-german to the point of being anti-slav. Or even worse : to the point repeating USA/American propaganda, i mean reading this post of yours was like reading New York post or the Times. I don't recall anyone being genocided under Stalin or Russia. In fact, two Pontian ex-communist greek ladies i have here at work, who have happened to have lived their childhood in USSR (Moscow and Khazakstan respectively) have *ONLY* good words to say about the regime. Also occasinally we spend some time trying to excercise some inter-slavic speech, me Serbian and they Russian. Stalin, today is used as vehicle for the further demonization of the Slavs. Therefore i will try to support the Slavs, even if occasionally supporting Stalin. At least, among foreigners (as is this albanian karta here) we must not do such mistakes. Everybody wants to minimize the Slavs. We must not let them. Germans/Saxons all of them are late offspring of the SLAVS, the basic and older european national mega-entity. Seeing the German, English, Swedish languages, and how they managed to loose all the beauty of the original slavic tang, i can only conclude HOW GREAT THE SLAVS are... Man, you see it in Croatia/Hungary... They are semi-disciplined/clean... but also ultra fascist and with limited imagination... *NOT* an attractive culture. Not a plethoric culture. Slaves of the Vatican and the west. Would you like to see Serbs like that?? Or do you really see the FREE-Slav as superior? Personally, i think that the FREE SLAV, can kill any enemy any time. The Free SLAV show its capability during USSR, and of course Yugoslavia. If Yugoslavia, was anti-west and with close ties to the USSR, then this would be the ideal.
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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 16, 2013 1:53:28 GMT -5
pls delete this, double post.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 16, 2013 12:15:37 GMT -5
pls delete this, double post. How am I being anti-Slav by saying that Stalin was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of ethnic SLAVIC Russians? He didn't do anything to prevent it? Or about Holomodor? ... was he not responsible for the 6-7 million peasants SLAVIC Ukrainians killed through an artificial famine? His close friend Lazar Kaganovich (NOT Russian or Slavic but rather a Jew) was also responsible for that. "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts." - Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich (He said this while standing on Church rubble. The Soviet union was anti-Russian = anti Slavic, how do you not see this by now Pyrros? The ideology Stalin was following was not Russian or Slavic, it was completely foreign - we can all thank Lenin for the s**t that stirred up, and get this, Lenin wasn't Russian nor Slavic, so wtf... here; There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times (the percentage of Jews in democratic and proletarian movements is everywhere higher than the percentage of Jews in the general population). Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other workers, adding their might (both in Russian and in Jewish) to the creation of an international culture of the working class movement, are continuing the best traditions of Jewry. - Vladimir Lenin^ there's your "Globalization", "NWO", "police state" or w/e people want to call it nowadays... Lenin was sent into Russia by the Germans in the same way that you might send a phial containing a culture of typhoid or of cholera to be poured into the water supply of*great city, and it worked with amazing accuracy. No sooner did Lenin arrive than he began beckoning a finger here and a finger there to obscure persons in sheltered retreats in New York, in Glasgow, in Berne, and other countries, and he gathered together the leading spirits of a formidable sect, the most formidable sect in the world, of which he was the high priest and chief. With these spirits around him he set to work with demoniacal ability to tear to pieces every institution on which the Russian State and nation depended. Russia was laid low. Russia had to be laid low. She was laid low to the dust. - Winston Churchill
really you think so? That would actually be devastating, Yugoslavs had it fairly well compared to how the Soviets lived, then again Yugoslavia didn't go completely communist that's why. the end result is the same, look what Serbs got out of Yugoslavia and what Russians got out of the Soviet Union. Churchill, Truman, and Stalin, best buds? lol don't be surprised, Churchill and Truman are known freemasons. 1941 Truman: "If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible."
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 16, 2013 15:28:46 GMT -5
This is the biggest bunch of bull sht propaganda I've ever heard.
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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 17, 2013 2:01:33 GMT -5
This is the biggest bunch of bull sht propaganda I've ever heard. sorry but it is true. Do you want names? phones? addresses ?? i can provide to you only if you promise to delete your account here and never write again.
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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 17, 2013 2:15:17 GMT -5
That would actually be devastating, Yugoslavs had it fairly well compared to how the Soviets lived, then again Yugoslavia didn't go completely communist that's why. the end result is the same, The british have fucked yugoslavs in every possible hole with every kind of lubricant and in every possible position and we keep blaming the bad Stalin and the bad soviets? ?? The brits are responsible for distancing the yugoslavs from their northern brothers ... It is no secret that today majority of GODD TRUE SLAV SERBS have positive emotions about yugoslavia and also GOOD TRUE SLAV RUSSIANS have positive emotions about CCCP, and that those british prostitutes are the ones who created hatred between the Russians and the Serbs... and then all scratched their heads why Russian didn't intervene in 1999.... why? because Serbs were laughing at their "inferior" neighbors for about 40 years ... they kept going to Hungary/Czechoslovakia, screw any female walking around and then come back and brag about the greatness of western yugoslavia..... Same thing Greeks did from 1990->2010, same thing with the fucking arabs in the arabian emirates... THAT IS WHAT THE WESTERN SATANS DO TO PPLS MINDS... Don't know about USSR... but if they really killed anything bad inherent within the outdated russian soul.. it was a good thing.. Question : how many INVENTIONS were happening during USSR by slavs? ? now? ?? ok, i agree that jews were behind, they were/are/will be ALWAYS behind.. Isn't alarming the fact that this albanian Karta seem to have similar opinions with you about bad communists, bad russians, .... "Bad Stalin" is used as platform for demonization of the SLAVS.... i wont buy it thanx... And the albanian here is the proof. Through concepts like "bad Stalin" he feels free to unleash his anti-slavic sentiments, against Russians, Slavs, and as you saw by yourself ANTI-SERBIAN as well.... Wanna know what i think?? I agree communism was a NWO. Jews were behind it, as you have shown.... Jews must have been behind America/UK/Germany and every other freaking empire on this earth, you name it.. I have a pelestenian friend who also supports that Jews were behind the Pharao's in Egypt, Roman empire, Holy Roman german empire and so forth... He is too gay to admin that Jews might have been behind the Arabic empire as well... nooooooo the Arabs were the good guys.... Same thing i tell him that the Slavs are the good guys and each one tries to portray his own like the good ones... i have read a piece of speech by Stalin just before WWII... this is so interesting ...
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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 17, 2013 2:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by Краљ Ватра on Sept 17, 2013 9:36:54 GMT -5
And something else...
We all know the west fucked Serbs very badly. We also know that the west fucked all eastern europe badly as well...
YET!!! still i can hear Serbs that will talk against communist Russia, IN THE SAME MANNER THAT THE AVERAGE WESTERN SATAN WILL SPEAK AGAINST SERBS!!!
What both stupid Serbs and stupid Russians fail to realize, (and all stupid slavs) is that, even of they want to differentiate themselves from the rest of Slavs (ahh we are better, we are more western, we are less communism, or OTOH, ahh we are better communists, the yugos whored to the west, etc... etc....), well , what every slav fails to understand is that :
THE WESTERN PROSTITUTES OF HORROR HAVE ALREADY CLASSIFIED *ALL* SLAVS as being ONE IN THE SAME, and apply the EXACT SAME METHODOLOGIES AGAINST THEM... but the slavic sheep are so asleep that fail to see that...
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Post by kartadolofonos on Sept 17, 2013 16:11:08 GMT -5
The Greeks were the only one who show Serbophilia ,Slavophilia. Anti-Slavic racism was an essential component of Nazism. Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party movement regarded Slavic countries and their peoples as Untermenschen (subhumans), one of a number of inferior "foreign races" that were, unlike the "Aryan master race", although there were exceptions for some ethnic Slavs. Hitler considered the Slavs to be inferior as the Bolshevik Revolution had put the Jews in power over the mass of Slavs, who were, by his own definition, incapable of ruling themselves but instead being ruled by Jewish masters. Because according to the Nazis the German people was in need for more territory to sustain its surplus population, an ideology of conquest and depopulation was formulated for Eastern Europe according to the principle of Lebensraum, itself based on an older theme in German nationalism which maintained that Germany had a "natural yearning" to expand its borders eastward (Drang Nach Osten).This drive was focused especially towards the Soviet Union, as it alone was deemed capable of providing enough territory to accomplish this goal, although they reached a much more advanced state in occupied Poland due to its immediate proximity to Germany. According to the resulting genocidal Generalplan Ost, millions of German and other "Germanic" settlers would be moved into the conquered territories, while the original Slavic inhabitants were to be annihilated, removed, or enslaved.
Anti-Slavism, also known as Slavophobia, a form of racism or xenophobia, refers to various negative attitudes towards Slavic peoples, most common manifestation being claims of inferiority of Slavic nations with respect to other ethnic groups. Its opposite is Slavophilia. Anti-slavism reached its highest peak during World War 2 when Nazi Germany declared Slavs to be subhuman and planned to exterminate majority of Slavic people. Anti-Polonism,Anti-Ukrainian sentiment Pan-Slavism,Russophobia,Serbophobia of Nazi-Germany !
In Soviet historiography, Anti-Slavism in Albania was inspired by the Catholic clergy who had studied in monasteries in Austria-Hungary which took position against Slavic people because of role the Catholic clergy had in preparations "for Italian aggression against Albania" and because Slavs opposed "rapacious plans of Austro-Hungarian imperialism in Albania". "We Albanians are the original and autochthonous race of the Balkans. The Slavs are conquerors and immigrants who came but yesterday from Asia."
Anti-Slavism was notable in Italian Fascism and Nazism prior to and during World War II.
In the 1920s, Italian fascists targeted Yugoslavs—especially Serbs—and accused Serbs of having "atavistic impulses", claimed that Yugoslavs were conspiring together on behalf of "Grand Orient masonry and its funds" and one anti-Semitic claim that Serbs were part of a "social-democratic, masonic Jewish internationalist plot".
Benito Mussolini identified Yugoslavs as a threat to Italy and as competitors over the region of Dalmatia which was claimed by Italy, and claimed that this threat rallied Italians together at the end of World War I, saying: "The danger of seeing the Jugo-Slavians settle along the whole Adriatic shore had caused a bringing together in Rome of the cream of our unhappy regions. Students, professors, workmen, citizens—representative men—were entreating the ministers and the professional politicians"
Hitler perceived the development of the modern Russian state had been the work of Germanic elements in the nation and not that of Slavs, but that those achievements had been undone and destroyed by the October Revolution.
The Nazis policy towards Slavs was exploited through propaganda during the war in according to the plans to expel, enslave or even exterminate the vast majority of the Slavic population and repopulate their land with millions of ethnic Germans and other Germanic peoples. In order to deviate from their ideological theories for strategic reasons by forging alliances with Croatia (a puppet state created after the Invasion of Yugoslavia) and Bulgaria, the Croats were officially described as "more Germanic than Slav", a notion supported by Croatia's fascist dictator Ante Pavelić who maintained that the Croatians were descendants of the ancient Goths and "had the Panslav idea forced upon them as something artificial". Hitler also deemed the Bulgarians to be "Turkoman" in origin
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 17, 2013 21:22:59 GMT -5
That would actually be devastating, Yugoslavs had it fairly well compared to how the Soviets lived, then again Yugoslavia didn't go completely communist that's why. the end result is the same, The british have f**ked yugoslavs in every possible hole with every kind of lubricant and in every possible position and we keep blaming the bad Stalin and the bad soviets? ?? The brits are responsible for distancing the yugoslavs from their northern brothers ... It is no secret that today majority of GODD TRUE SLAV SERBS have positive emotions about yugoslavia and also GOOD TRUE SLAV RUSSIANS have positive emotions about CCCP, and that those british prostitutes are the ones who created hatred between the Russians and the Serbs... and then all scratched their heads why Russian didn't intervene in 1999.... why? because Serbs were laughing at their "inferior" neighbors for about 40 years ... they kept going to Hungary/Czechoslovakia, screw any female walking around and then come back and brag about the greatness of western yugoslavia..... Same thing Greeks did from 1990->2010, same thing with the f**king arabs in the arabian emirates... THAT IS WHAT THE WESTERN SATANS DO TO PPLS MINDS... Don't know about USSR... but if they really killed anything bad inherent within the outdated russian soul.. it was a good thing.. Question : how many INVENTIONS were happening during USSR by slavs? ? now? ?? ok, i agree that jews were behind, they were/are/will be ALWAYS behind.. Isn't alarming the fact that this albanian Karta seem to have similar opinions with you about bad communists, bad russians, .... "Bad Stalin" is used as platform for demonization of the SLAVS.... i wont buy it thanx... And the albanian here is the proof. Through concepts like "bad Stalin" he feels free to unleash his anti-slavic sentiments, against Russians, Slavs, and as you saw by yourself ANTI-SERBIAN as well.... Wanna know what i think?? I agree communism was a NWO. Jews were behind it, as you have shown.... Jews must have been behind America/UK/Germany and every other freaking empire on this earth, you name it.. I have a pelestenian friend who also supports that Jews were behind the Pharao's in Egypt, Roman empire, Holy Roman german empire and so forth... He is too gay to admin that Jews might have been behind the Arabic empire as well... nooooooo the Arabs were the good guys.... Same thing i tell him that the Slavs are the good guys and each one tries to portray his own like the good ones... i have read a piece of speech by Stalin just before WWII... this is so interesting ... Lots of content here, amazing. Let's just be clear that by seeing Stalin as anti-Russian/Slavic, he therefore does not represent Slavism regardless of what others' think. There's just too much evidence of crimes and policies he enacted himself in which primarily effected the native Slavic peasant/population, they were being sacrificed literally. I mean, if you read western sources it's very bad, just imagine how much worse material of evidence the Russians have documented, there's a reason why today in Russia we see a rise in nationalism, their wounds from the soviet era plus the effects of the cold war are healing. They're finding their way now, we see they are getting stronger, ie Syria - Russia (or any other country) for the first time in a long time directly threatened the USA. On the other hand Yugoslavia was something different but still based on marxist principles. Karta's view on communism isn't linked to Slavs, from what I am getting. Even if so, it's wrong and doesn't offend me because it only means he doesn't understand. That;s not true from where I am standing. Being communist here is "cool" among the young adults, leftist extremism in general and among the degenerates its' "anarchism", what mainstream music is all about if you actually listen or read the lyrics of top 40 hits. Majority of the youth are too stupid to really see what they're calling for and that's the point, and why they wont self proclaim themselves as communists, their ideals in disguise are. a clear and yet basic example is this; A Soviet propoganda poster I believe from 1939 promoting open-homosexuality among the new proletariat. *I'll get back you later about the speech you posted, I want to take my time with reading it.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 17, 2013 21:46:32 GMT -5
Karta, this is all lies.
Communist lies at that.
The Aryans, even according to Hitler/ThirdReich are all Indo-Europeans. Its only been documented ONCE that two National Socialists anthropologists tried to evaluate Slavic inferiority in order to explain their drift into Communism (something inherently seen as anti-European), but this research immediately stopped when their findings showed Slavic influence, both genetic and historic throughout Germany and Austria, and specifically in the region where Hitler was from. Nowhere, in Nazi policy did they see Slavs as non-European, inferior or classified among the Untermensch this is what the communist side was pedaling. because this term was directed at them and all other Bolshevik groups and proxies, and Russians were seen as victims of the Untermensch.
I know I am treading dangerous water here lol but it's true, find me one quote from any Nazi document, or a dictation by a party official who stated Slavs were inferior -
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