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Post by Pyrros on Jul 9, 2019 3:26:47 GMT -5
Any greko here know the Slavic Greek revolution of 727 ? When true Greeks and SLavs from today Greece fought against the Romans of "Polis"? huh? Any greko know the Greek Cretan revolt against the whesto satanic bitches of Byzantium in 961? And how the satans of Nikoforos fokas killed 100,000s of Greeks?
No??? this is because the pseudo-greko-bot don't know chit.
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Post by rex362 on Jul 9, 2019 10:03:44 GMT -5
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well ...then in that case you serbs must be the Illyrians
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Post by rex362 on Jul 9, 2019 10:08:15 GMT -5
So you admit your Asian ?
wtf .....fairy-tales
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Post by rex362 on Jul 9, 2019 10:23:06 GMT -5
Any greko here know the Slavic Greek revolution of 727 ? When true Greeks and SLavs from today Greece fought against the Romans of "Polis"? huh? Any greko know the Greek Cretan revolt against the whesto satanic bitches of Byzantium in 961? And how the satans of Nikoforos fokas killed 100,000s of Greeks?
No??? this is because the pseudo-greko-bot don't know chit.
your the only greko here
besides all fairyland stuff
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 9, 2019 14:45:45 GMT -5
So you admit your Asian ?
wtf .....fairy-tales
all my family has SLAVIC surnames.. who knows bro?? maybe yours too??
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 9, 2019 14:46:24 GMT -5
Any greko here know the Slavic Greek revolution of 727 ? When true Greeks and SLavs from today Greece fought against the Romans of "Polis"? huh? Any greko know the Greek Cretan revolt against the whesto satanic bitches of Byzantium in 961? And how the satans of Nikoforos fokas killed 100,000s of Greeks?
No??? this is because the pseudo-greko-bot don't know chit.
your the only greko here
besides all fairyland stuff
I am the only one who cares abour TRUE Greeks, that's for sure.
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Post by Duško on Jul 9, 2019 16:56:18 GMT -5
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well ...then in that case you serbs must be the Illyrians I don't beleive the Serbians evolved from the Illyrian ethos, we're definitely Slavic. The illyrians went extinct, which means their ethos disappeared, nothing evolved from them. The only thing left is DNA which definitely survived because there was no wipe out of illyrians or mass genocide against them, they totally assimilated into the higher dominant cultures around.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 10, 2019 0:52:03 GMT -5
but who tells us that Illyrians and Thracians were not Slavic? Especially about Thracians everything written is like describing Slavs.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 3:19:25 GMT -5
but who tells us that Illyrians and Thracians were not Slavic? Especially about Thracians everything written is like describing Slavs. DNA data from excavation sites. They were genetically close to modern Spanish people or northwestern Italians. All modern nations of Balkans have some Eastern European input. Albanians or Greeks don't cluster with neither Thracian nor Illyrian samples, let alone South Slavic population.
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Post by rex362 on Jul 10, 2019 10:06:02 GMT -5
but who tells us that Illyrians and Thracians were not Slavic? Especially about Thracians everything written is like describing Slavs. DNA data from excavation sites. They were genetically close to modern Spanish people or northwestern Italians. All modern nations of Balkans have some Eastern European input. Albanians or Greeks don't cluster with neither Thracian nor Illyrian samples, let alone South Slavic population. Illyrian & Thracians .....Albanian words to a 8 year old
Illyr /Ilir ---- Free man/freedom
Thrac / Thracin /Thrac jan -------- scream/ yelling /the loud ones
lets keep it simple and not inject fairy tales
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Post by rex362 on Jul 10, 2019 10:17:58 GMT -5
So you admit your Asian ?
wtf .....fairy-tales
all my family has SLAVIC surnames.. who knows bro?? maybe yours too??
yea ....your in laws ...how about back home ?
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Post by Duško on Jul 10, 2019 16:38:45 GMT -5
Anything left of the Illyrians was swallowed up by the Jugo-Slavs (Serbians and Croatians).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 16:53:30 GMT -5
DNA data from excavation sites. They were genetically close to modern Spanish people or northwestern Italians. All modern nations of Balkans have some Eastern European input. Albanians or Greeks don't cluster with neither Thracian nor Illyrian samples, let alone South Slavic population. Illyrian & Thracians .....Albanian words to a 8 year old
Illyr /Ilir ---- Free man/freedom
Thrac / Thracin /Thrac jan -------- scream/ yelling /the loud ones
lets keep it simple and not inject fairy tales
Don't try to diverge this to a level of a 5 year old retarded kid. DNA is science. Clustering DNA samples of modern populations and ancient population is well established method and it knows no passport or national identity. And it proves how Balkans is one big mix. There is no pure nation here. We were not isolated like greater part of Scandinavia, Oceania, remote parts of Siberia or Himalayas. So, if you think Albanians (or Greeks) are more worthy than South Slavs because they are longer (degenerate theory as they are all mixed) in the Balkans you're approximately at the level of those Talibans that still fight wars over territory in distant parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 11, 2019 10:08:21 GMT -5
all my family has SLAVIC surnames.. who knows bro?? maybe yours too??
yea ....your in laws ...how about back home ?
i am not talking about inlaws bro... you know leka, Krasniqe , etc
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 11, 2019 10:15:02 GMT -5
but who tells us that Illyrians and Thracians were not Slavic? Especially about Thracians everything written is like describing Slavs. DNA data from excavation sites. They were genetically close to modern Spanish people or northwestern Italians. All modern nations of Balkans have some Eastern European input. Albanians or Greeks don't cluster with neither Thracian nor Illyrian samples, let alone South Slavic population.
I am under the impression that I have proven with simple maths that modern DNA "tests" are silly and provide no knowledge to the real origins of one's ancestors...
example, lets say, I got 1024 known ancestors, of which 512 are male and 512 female. Lets suppose that 1023 of them are Slavs, whereas 1 is SURE to have been 100% Magyar. (of course Magyars are SLavs as well but that's another story). Now lets sppose that this 1 magyar represents the top left ancestor in the patternal lines of me and all the members above me on the left.
So we got a person which (even by this assumption of the genetic tests as the ultimate criterion of ancestry) is 100% Slav but the poor DNA test claims otherwise.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 11, 2019 10:21:10 GMT -5
Illyrian & Thracians .....Albanian words to a 8 year old
Illyr /Ilir ---- Free man/freedom
Thrac / Thracin /Thrac jan -------- scream/ yelling /the loud ones
lets keep it simple and not inject fairy tales
Don't try to diverge this to a level of a 5 year old retarded kid. DNA is science. Clustering DNA samples of modern populations and ancient population is well established method and it knows no passport or national identity. And it proves how Balkans is one big mix. There is no pure nation here. We were not isolated like greater part of Scandinavia, Oceania, remote parts of Siberia or Himalayas. So, if you think Albanians (or Greeks) are more worthy than South Slavs because they are longer (degenerate theory as they are all mixed) in the Balkans you're approximately at the level of those Talibans that still fight wars over territory in distant parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
That's the problem when you keep the ball in known territories. Some albo incredible creature will spoil it all. We gotta step up the game to the new level. A level where no albo can play. I have proven that DNA tests are worthless and that they serve the greatest saksan ideal. What I have indications for but cannot prove is that even if DNA tests become reliable and trussworthy and meaningful , EVEN THEN, they would tell a SMALL part of the story. I believe there is something more than DNA. More important to the mindset of the nations. And this is also inherited by biological means.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 14:07:22 GMT -5
DNA data from excavation sites. They were genetically close to modern Spanish people or northwestern Italians. All modern nations of Balkans have some Eastern European input. Albanians or Greeks don't cluster with neither Thracian nor Illyrian samples, let alone South Slavic population.
I am under the impression that I have proven with simple maths that modern DNA "tests" are silly and provide no knowledge to the real origins of one's ancestors...
example, lets say, I got 1024 known ancestors, of which 512 are male and 512 female. Lets suppose that 1023 of them are Slavs, whereas 1 is SURE to have been 100% Magyar. (of course Magyars are SLavs as well but that's another story). Now lets sppose that this 1 magyar represents the top left ancestor in the patternal lines of me and all the members above me on the left.
So we got a person which (even by this assumption of the genetic tests as the ultimate criterion of ancestry) is 100% Slav but the poor DNA test claims otherwise. You're wrong because you talk of Y-DNA test, and I was speaking of autosomal DNA test. In case you don't know what automsomes are check more here.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 12, 2019 1:52:37 GMT -5
I guess you know the fundamental flaws of any DNA-related approach. I can mathematically destroy it by deduction. Easily .
I don't want the future of Slavic youth to be dependent in childish castles made of paper.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 2:49:26 GMT -5
I guess you know the fundamental flaws of any DNA-related approach. I can mathematically destroy it by deduction. Easily .
I don't want the future of Slavic youth to be dependent in childish castles made of paper.
Order of these biomolecules is what determines us the way we are. Fundamental flaw of any DNA-related approach is when people who try to 'destroy' it don't possess enough data to rightfully do it so, hence they bring the wrong conclusions. If it were the case, then the whole DNA science now would be discarded, gene therapies would be useless, troubleshooting the inherited illness and/or potential threats to immune system would be completely wrong, and people would heal with prayers and holy water.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 12, 2019 3:56:33 GMT -5
I dont question the medical aspect. I question the methodology regarding conclusions on the ethnology of nations. And currently this methodology is so idiotic that it strikes me how clever ppl cannot see it.
Of course I can expand this down to mathematical level.
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