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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 4:42:31 GMT -5
Why must this Tatar minority be anti-Slavic?
I dunno, its a buzz word in the pro-Slav slang. In Makedonia Tatars they call the anti-Slavs, anti-Yugoslavs.
I would argue that the tatars are those that oppose EU and NATO integration and instead favour Russia and China. What could be more Tatarist than support for a Eurasian Union and alliance with actual Tatars and Mongols
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 4:43:36 GMT -5
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 4:43:58 GMT -5
I dunno, its a buzz word in the pro-Slav slang. In Makedonia Tatars they call the anti-Slavs, anti-Yugoslavs.
I would argue that the tatars are those that oppose EU and NATO integration and instead favour Russia and China. What could be more Tatarist than support for a Eurasian Union and alliance with actual Tatars and Mongols that's the good thing about them
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 4:45:03 GMT -5
No it’s not, but most Macedonians are in favour of EU and NATO membership, despite their feelings for Serbs. But nothing will change for Macedonia. They'll just again become pecalbari like in the Ottoman days. That is already happening. 100,000 Bulgarian/EU passports have been issued to Macedonians who are now working in EU countries.
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 8, 2018 4:45:51 GMT -5
Anyways, pls lets keep the thread clean.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 4:48:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 4:51:06 GMT -5
Why must this Tatar minority be anti-Slavic?
I dunno, its a buzz word in the pro-Slav slang. In Makedonia Tatars they call the anti-Slavs, anti-Yugoslavs.
Some Serbs and Macedonians often use it as if being Tatar is something derogatory, but I don't get why? Because they are Mongoloid race? That's not good in my opinion. Perhaps Mongoloid are different than Europeans but they are quite smart.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 4:52:18 GMT -5
But nothing will change for Macedonia. They'll just again become pecalbari like in the Ottoman days. That is already happening. 100,000 Bulgarian/EU passports have been issued to Macedonians who are now working in EU countries. A reason more why you should not just give in. Or else Macedonia wont be yours, or worse you wont be Macedonian anymore if some other country lays it claw on your land.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 4:55:47 GMT -5
Sultan Mehmed IV to the Zaporozhian Cossacks: As the Sultan; son of Muhammad; brother of the sun and moon; grandson and viceroy of God; ruler of the kingdoms of Macedonia, Babylon, Jerusalem, Upper and Lower Egypt; emperor of emperors; sovereign of sovereigns; extraordinary knight, never defeated; steadfast guardian of the tomb of Jesus Christ; trustee chosen by God Himself; the hope and comfort of Muslims; confounder and great defender of Christians - I command you, the Zaporogian Cossacks, to submit to me voluntarily and without any resistance, and to desist from troubling me with your attacks.-Turkish Sultan Mehmed IV
Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are thou, that canst not slay a hedgehog with your naked a*se? The devil sh*ts, and your army eats. Thou shallt not, thou son of a wh*re, make subjects of Christian sons; we have no fear of your army, by land and by sea we will battle with thee, f*ck thy mother.
Thou Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-f*cker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our d*ck. Pig's snout, mare's a*se, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow, screw thine own mother!
So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord, the day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our a*se!
- Koshovyi otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 5:11:18 GMT -5
That is already happening. 100,000 Bulgarian/EU passports have been issued to Macedonians who are now working in EU countries. A reason more why you should not just give in. Or else Macedonia wont be yours, or worse you wont be Macedonian anymore if some other country lays it claw on your land. Macedonia out of the EU and NATO would hasten what you are suggesting. The West would support NATO members Albania and Bulgaria in dividing Macedonia with the blessing of Greece. The cards were on the table if we didn’t receive our NATO invitation. Now we are just another satrapy like the rest of our neighbors (bar Serbia - for now). Serbia will need to choose a side eventually - the West or Tatar East.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 5:18:03 GMT -5
A reason more why you should not just give in. Or else Macedonia wont be yours, or worse you wont be Macedonian anymore if some other country lays it claw on your land. Tatar East. Tatar East.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 5:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 5:31:39 GMT -5
A reason more why you should not just give in. Or else Macedonia wont be yours, or worse you wont be Macedonian anymore if some other country lays it claw on your land. Macedonia out of the EU and NATO would hasten what you are suggesting. The West would support NATO members Albania and Bulgaria in dividing Macedonia with the blessing of Greece. The cards were on the table if we didn’t receive our NATO invitation. Now we are just another satrapy like the rest of our neighbors (bar Serbia - for now). Serbia will need to choose a side eventually - the West or Tatar East. Ok, but you're siding with your enemies....
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 5:36:45 GMT -5
Great, allies with the brown and yellow people. How many Chinese and Vietnamese in Serbia already?
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 5:39:22 GMT -5
Great, allies with the brown and yellow people. How many Chinese and Vietnamese in Serbia already? The number of Chinese people in Serbia according to 2011 census is 1,373
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 5:41:59 GMT -5
Macedonia out of the EU and NATO would hasten what you are suggesting. The West would support NATO members Albania and Bulgaria in dividing Macedonia with the blessing of Greece. The cards were on the table if we didn’t receive our NATO invitation. Now we are just another satrapy like the rest of our neighbors (bar Serbia - for now). Serbia will need to choose a side eventually - the West or Tatar East. Ok, but you're siding with your enemies.... That’s your opinion. The Independent State of Macedonia was created in 1944 before The Socialist Republic of Macedonia became a Yugoslav Republic. So it was the Axis in the end that supported an independent Macedonian state albeit in the dying days of WW2, whilst the Communists supported Macedonia being in Yugoslavia.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 5:42:17 GMT -5
also Serbia is a CSTO observer
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 5:43:57 GMT -5
Great, allies with the brown and yellow people. How many Chinese and Vietnamese in Serbia already? The number of Chinese people in Serbia according to 2011 census is 1,373 Get ready for more. Is there a Chinatown in Belgrade?
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 5:44:53 GMT -5
also Serbia is a CSTO observer Great, you get to fight alongside Kazakhs and Tatars.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 5:47:05 GMT -5
also Serbia is a CSTO observer Great, you get to fight alongside Kazakhs and Tatars. Let's not forget the Iranians rushing to Serbia because they can come visa-free
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