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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 5:47:39 GMT -5
Since Serbia’s Government abolished visa requirements for Iranians more than a year ago, the number of Iranian migrants in Bosnia increased drastically because they can travel to Serbia as tourists. The number of Iranian migrants that have entered Bosnia in 2018 is more than 100 times higher than the year before. According to data from Bosnia’s Foreigner’s Affairs Service, 16 Iranians have requested asylum in the country last year. But only until September this year, this number stands at 1,647 already. After 27 years, the first Iran Air aeroplane has landed in Belgrade in March this year. Two more followed suit the same month - Qeshm Air and Mahan Air. More than 20,000 passengers have arrived in Serbia from Iransince then. According to Serbia’s Statistics Agency, nearly 16,000 Iranian tourists have stayed in Serbia within the first seven months of the year. According to the director of Serbia’s Info Park, a refugee centre in Belgrade, part of the Iranian tourists coming to Belgrade continue their path illegally toward Western Europe. ‘If the numbers of tourists coming from Iran on arriving flights to Belgrade are compared to those returning to Teheran, there is a 30 percent difference. The people who are missing on returning flights continue their path toward Europe,’ Paunovic said. He said that, according to data which the Info Park got with the help various of NGO’s, including FRONTEX, the European Border and Coast Guard Agency, more than 40,000 Iranians have entered Serbia since the visa requirement was abolished. The ‘fake Iranian tourists’ issue was also raised by the Chairman of Bosnia’s Council of Ministers, Denis Zvizdic, who said he alarmed European Commissioner for European Neighbourhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations Johannes Hahn about it. ‘The issue is that Serbia abolished the visas, establishing a non-visa regime between Serbia and Iran,’ he said, pointing out that there are three direct flights to Serbia from Iran within this week. ‘Fact is that they come to Serbia as tourists, and emerge in Bosnia without any identification documents. Of course, this will be stopped. It will have to,’ Zvizdic said. Of the total number of Iranian migrants that have entered Bosnia this year, mostly via Serbia, 50 were accommodated in an immigration centre, 66 were sent back to the country they came from, and 18 returned voluntarily.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 5:50:11 GMT -5
Great, you get to fight alongside Kazakhs and Tatars. Let's not forget the Iranians rushing to Serbia because they can come visa-free You support this?
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 5:52:36 GMT -5
Let's not forget the Iranians rushing to Serbia because they can come visa-free You support this? if they are staying in Serbia then no. if they continue to EU/NATO countries then it is fine.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 5:59:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 6:09:37 GMT -5
Ok, but you're siding with your enemies.... That’s your opinion. The Independent State of Macedonia was created in 1944 before The Socialist Republic of Macedonia became a Yugoslav Republic. So it was the Axis in the end that supported an independent Macedonian state albeit in the dying days of WW2, whilst the Communists supported Macedonia being in Yugoslavia. So you rather be a voiceless puppet of the Nazi's then part of the greater South Slavic consensus?
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Post by Sokol on Sept 8, 2018 6:17:06 GMT -5
That’s your opinion. The Independent State of Macedonia was created in 1944 before The Socialist Republic of Macedonia became a Yugoslav Republic. So it was the Axis in the end that supported an independent Macedonian state albeit in the dying days of WW2, whilst the Communists supported Macedonia being in Yugoslavia. So you rather be a voiceless puppet of the Nazi's then part of the greater South Slavic consensus? South Slavic consensus? That died with Yugoslavia. Slovenia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Montenegro and now Macedonia all NATO members - that is the new consensus amongst South Slavs. Serbia and Bosnia (if it survives) can allie with the Mongols.
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 8, 2018 7:01:53 GMT -5
I dunno, its a buzz word in the pro-Slav slang. In Makedonia Tatars they call the anti-Slavs, anti-Yugoslavs.
Some Serbs and Macedonians often use it as if being Tatar is something derogatory, but I don't get why? Because they are Mongoloid race? That's not good in my opinion. Perhaps Mongoloid are different than Europeans but they are quite smart.
for political reasons .
e.g. tatars in Ukraine were 100% pro-west. That's just weak.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 7:04:31 GMT -5
So you rather be a voiceless puppet of the Nazi's then part of the greater South Slavic consensus? South Slavic consensus? That died with Yugoslavia. Slovenia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Montenegro and now Macedonia all NATO members - that is the new consensus amongst South Slavs. Serbia and Bosnia (if it survives) can allie with the Mongols. I was talking of 1944 because the way you wrote it favored Nazi's. Right now only Serbia and Bosnia are two remaining South Slavic countries. Croatia, Slovenia and Bulgaria no longer are Slavic. Your country is on the crossroads. Montenegro never was, except the Serb element there.
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 8, 2018 7:07:38 GMT -5
Ok, but you're siding with your enemies.... That’s your opinion. The Independent State of Macedonia was created in 1944 before The Socialist Republic of Macedonia became a Yugoslav Republic. So it was the Axis in the end that supported an independent Macedonian state albeit in the dying days of WW2, whilst the Communists supported Macedonia being in Yugoslavia.
absolutely normal. No wonder that NAZI GOTHS 70 years ago and NAZI SAXONS now choose exactly the same ANTI-SLAV policies in order to kill their ancient enemy the SLAVS. Prepare for vicious albanization .... hopefuly some revolution wont let that happen.
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 8, 2018 7:18:45 GMT -5
Serbia and Bosnia (if it survives) can allie with the Mongols.
Who are the mongols
the people who TRANSFERRED SLAVIC CULTURE TO THE SEA OF JAPAN AND MADE "ASIANS" TO LOOK LIKE THIS :
And also SPEAK SLAVIC?
if yes, then Sokol, you have serious issues to solve, or you just keep positions in your albanian party (with Zaev) and just have great expectations for a job......
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 8:15:37 GMT -5
So you rather be a voiceless puppet of the Nazi's then part of the greater South Slavic consensus? can allie with the Mongols. you speak of Russia Iran and China as if they are bad....
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Post by rex362 on Sept 8, 2018 11:34:06 GMT -5
bcs that is what Pyrros's math equation says
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Post by rex362 on Sept 8, 2018 11:39:02 GMT -5
But nothing will change for Macedonia. They'll just again become pecalbari like in the Ottoman days. More and More Albanians will come to Macedonia, like in ottoman days.
cant stop laughing ...........ahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahah
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Post by rex362 on Sept 8, 2018 11:42:39 GMT -5
So you rather be a voiceless puppet of the Nazi's then part of the greater South Slavic consensus? South Slavic consensus? That died with Yugoslavia. Slovenia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Montenegro and now Macedonia all NATO members - that is the new consensus amongst South Slavs. Serbia and Bosnia (if it survives) can allie with the Mongols.
"South Slavic consensus? That died with Yugoslavia."
man ...I was about to pot same exact wording to him
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Post by rex362 on Sept 8, 2018 11:51:41 GMT -5
Macedonia is making correct move so to move forward .......ONWARD !!!!!
nema levo - nema desno ......Samo pravo
Pyrros math does not compute here
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Post by rex362 on Sept 8, 2018 12:07:28 GMT -5
Macedonia is tired & worn of playing politics......time to do life
Forward !
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Post by rex362 on Sept 8, 2018 12:34:13 GMT -5
signed in my backyard ...Prespa
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 13:42:46 GMT -5
More and More Albanians will come to Macedonia, like in ottoman days.
cant stop laughing ...........ahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahah
But its true. I saw Vasil Kanchovs census for year 1900. For example Ohrid and Struga regions. There were only Bulgarians (Macedonians) there according to him. The only difference is there was small Muslim Bulgarians (Macedonians) minority, and Orthodox Christan Bulgarians majority. Albanians were as much as Turks. Now its like 20 times more Albanians than Turks. Turks are now no more than 1000, as much as there was back then in that census. You do the math.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 8, 2018 13:48:37 GMT -5
cant trust census from 10 years ago let alone from 100 years ago when they were really trying to make a country or politics
struga is Albanian by far .....ohrid use to be
btw those alb in many areas were called turks
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 14:23:33 GMT -5
cant trust census from 10 years ago let alone from 100 years ago when they were really trying to make a country or politics
struga is Albanian by far .....ohrid use to be
btw those alb in many areas were called turks
Demographic history of Kosovo 1321-1331-Serbs 96,6% 1455-13 000 serb houses, 46 albanian houses 1500-1525-Serbs 94% 1591-Prizren-Serbian with small number of albanians, Gora-Serbian, Opolje-Albanian 17c- The war of 1683–1699 between the Ottomans and the Habsburgs led to the flight of a substantial part of Serbian population to Austrian held Vojvodina and the Military Frontier - about 37,000 families of Serb refugees were led by Patriarch Arsenije III Crnojević settled in the Habsburg Monarchy, mostly from today's Kosovo. And then again, from the period between 1717 and 1737, the Second Migration of Serbs. 19c- 19th century data about the population of Kosovo tend to be rather conflicting, giving sometimes numerical superiority to the Serbs and sometimes to the Albanians. A study in 1838 by an Austrian physician, dr. Joseph Müller found Metohija to be mostly Slavic (Serbian) in character. Müller gives data for the three counties (Bezirke) of Prizren, Pec and Djakovica which roughly covered Dukagjini , the portion adjacent to Albania and most affected by Albanian settlers. Out of 195,000 inhabitants in Dukagjini, Müller found: 114,000 Muslims (58%): c. 38,000 are Serbs(19%) c. 86,000 are Albanians (39%) Christians: 73,572 Eastern Orthodox Serb(38%) 5,120 Roman Catholic Albanians (3%) 2,308 other non-Muslims Müller's observations on towns: Peć: 11,050 Serbs, 500 Albanians Prizren: 16,800 Serbs, 6159 Albanians Đakovica: majority of Albanians, surrounding villages Serbian A study done in 1871 by Austrian colonel Peter Kukulj for the internal use of the Austro-Hungarian army showed that the mutesarifluk of Prizren (corresponding largely to present-day Kosovo) had some 500,000 inhabitants, of which: 318,000 Serbs (64%), 161,000 Albanians (32%), 10,000 Roma 2,000 Turks Modern Serbian sources estimated that around 400,000 Serbs were cleansed out of the Kosovo between 1876 and 1912, especially during the Greek-Ottoman wars in 1897. 1921- Albanian 65.8%, Serb 26% 1931- Muslims 378,981 muslims, 150,745 Serbs WWII-During World War II , with the fall of Yugoslavia in 1941, Italians placed the land inhabited by ethnic Albanians under the jurisdiction of an Albanian quisling government. That included Kosovo . Kosovo's inclusion into a geo-political Albanian entity was followed by extensive persecution of non-Albanians (mostly Serbs) by Albanian fascists. Most of the war crimes were perpetrated by the Skenderbeg SS Division and the Balli Kombetar . Some 10,000 to 30,000 Serbs were killed and another 100,000 driven out. the then Prime Minister Mustafa Kruja of Albania , was in Kosovo in June 1942, and at a meeting with the Albanian leaders of Kosovo, he said: "We should endeavor to ensure that the Serb population of Kosovo be – the area be cleansed of them and all Serbs who had been living there for centuries should be termed colonialists and sent to concentration camps in Albania. The Serb settlers should be killed." In April 1943, Heinrich Himmler created division manned by Albanian and Kosovar Albanian volunteers . From August 1944, the division participated in operations against Yugoslav Partisans and in massacring local Serbs population. Albanians in Kosovo after World WarII: 1948-498,244 68.5% 1953-524,559 64.9% 1961-646,605 67.1% 1971-916,168 73.7% 1981-1,226,736 77.4% 1991-1,096,072 81.6%
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