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Post by Sokol on Sept 18, 2018 1:39:25 GMT -5
It's thanks to your "european" brothers that the KLA came to makedonia in the first place.
shhhhhh you'll wake him up.
hope you like chinese food
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 18, 2018 1:42:29 GMT -5
shhhhhh you'll wake him up.
hope you like chinese food
I prefer SERBIAN (which is 99.99999999999999999999999999999% like Makedonian).
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Post by rex362 on Sept 18, 2018 10:14:20 GMT -5
1991/2 - JNA withdraws from Macedonia and takes all weapons with it. 1999 - Bulgaria donates 100 T-55 tanks to Macedonia 2001 - Ukraine supplies helicopters and Sukhoi fighter jets to Macedonia So you do the math here. Serbia takes all weapons. Bulgaria and Ukraine supply weapons.
JNA withdraws from Macedonia? Makedonia wanted independence from Jugoslavija. So Jugoslavija had to secure the rest of places where loyal Jugoslavs still had a chance.
Loads of Slovenes and Croats in JNA at the time.
serbia gathered all yugo weaponry from all bases and not all overnight /at once ....after other republics started taking notice including jna troops which simply just packed a pillow case and walked out ....home bound ...like a walk out ,no orders were given no paper work ....
lots of these weapons were delivered to serbian enclaves in other republics throughout Yugo like gifts
I had a younger cousin still in the jna when the shit started in Slovenia ,he and his whole vod were put in transports trucks without them knowing what where who ,once at destination it took em hours to figure out where they were and what was going down non-serbs were put in front line he told me the serbs behind him were pissing in their pants and even crying .... he and many other non-serbs simply laid their arms down and took a bus home ....it was not their battle .....serbs gave in quick in slovenia .....no match for Slovenian brains
60-70% of jna went awol ----->absent without official leave
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Post by rex362 on Sept 18, 2018 10:17:44 GMT -5
yes I know .....I have 2 nephews that are pilots they were here in USA a few times ....and many other people from my area in the military / no jobs
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Post by rex362 on Sept 18, 2018 11:09:23 GMT -5
Slovenes are smart ....they would not allow serbs to obtain residency within ,they come and visit ,work but
not full residency they were on to the historical serbian ways ...... no serb enclaves there and maybe 1% serbs in Slovenia and maybe less
I stayed in Ljubljana almost 4 weeks back in the late 1980's bought a used Merdzho there great people ,respectful,nice place ,clean like being in Germany them Shwabe's The only thing that was noticeable was that it was expensive for outsiders but the
standard was much higher for Slovenes and it seemed like a different country with a much better economy than any other republic by far .
I was also in Ljubljana in 1970 for 4-5 days ,I was just a kid and on my first visit back home ,we landed in Frankfurt and then by train to Ljubljana for a week where my dad bought a 1969 Shkoda ,ugly yellow and we drove all the way
to Prespa Macedonia and the farther we went south the more back in time we went ...as a kid it was very noticeable.
And back throughout all of yugo days the Slovenes were the smartest of the bunch when it came to
any kind of technology and advancements ,the smartest of the bunch .....very industrialized compared
to the rest of the republics
Now imagine if Slovenia had control of yugo instead of the way serbia tried
I honestly believe yugo would still exist 101% and would be a strong economy in Europe
Just to bad that serbia wanted full control and didn't want to oblige by the 2 year rotating republic control setup
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Post by rex362 on Sept 18, 2018 11:41:17 GMT -5
Actually I believe that it was Slovenia that first warned /wanted to breakaway
from yugo and that was exactly the same time I was there in 1987
They saw what time it was after the 1981 Kosova crackdown by serbs .... they smelled the coffee earlier than anybody else did of what was to become of Yugoslavia
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 18, 2018 14:55:45 GMT -5
Slovenes are smart ....they would not allow serbs to obtain residency within ,they come and visit ,work but
not full residency they were on to the historical serbian ways ...... no serb enclaves there and maybe 1% serbs in Slovenia and maybe less
I stayed in Ljubljana almost 4 weeks back in the late 1980's bought a used Merdzho there great people ,respectful,nice place ,clean like being in Germany them Shwabe's The only thing that was noticeable was that it was expensive for outsiders but the
standard was much higher for Slovenes and it seemed like a different country with a much better economy than any other republic by far .
I was also in Ljubljana in 1970 for 4-5 days ,I was just a kid and on my first visit back home ,we landed in Frankfurt and then by train to Ljubljana for a week where my dad bought a 1969 Shkoda ,ugly yellow and we drove all the way
to Prespa Macedonia and the farther we went south the more back in time we went ...as a kid it was very noticeable.
And back throughout all of yugo days the Slovenes were the smartest of the bunch when it came to
any kind of technology and advancements ,the smartest of the bunch .....very industrialized compared
to the rest of the republics
Now imagine if Slovenia had control of yugo instead of the way serbia tried
I honestly believe yugo would still exist 101% and would be a strong economy in Europe
Just to bad that serbia wanted full control and didn't want to oblige by the 2 year rotating republic control setup
Look up serbs in white carnolia
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 19, 2018 3:19:40 GMT -5
And back throughout all of yugo days the Slovenes were the smartest of the bunch when it came to
any kind of technology and advancements ,the smartest of the bunch .....very industrialized compared
to the rest of the republics
Serbia was were the serious industry was. Slovenes made great aesthetics/creams for women, yeah great stuff.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 19, 2018 9:43:44 GMT -5
And back throughout all of yugo days the Slovenes were the smartest of the bunch when it came to
any kind of technology and advancements ,the smartest of the bunch .....very industrialized compared
to the rest of the republics
Serbia was were the serious industry was. Slovenes made great aesthetics/creams for women, yeah great stuff.
you dont know Slovenia in 1970/80's.....
anything industrial /nice serbia has is continuation from the past fruits of yugo as a whole
the whole yugo consensus back in the days was "yugoslavia radi serbija jadi " -fact-
they modernized off the backs off the rest of yugo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 10:39:38 GMT -5
Serbia was were the serious industry was. Slovenes made great aesthetics/creams for women, yeah great stuff.
you dont know Slovenia in 1970/80's.....
anything industrial /nice serbia has is continuation from the past fruits of yugo as a whole
the whole yugo consensus back in the days was "yugoslavia radi serbija jadi " -fact-
they modernized off the backs off the rest of yugo
Thats bullshit. Most of Belgrade was made in Serbia, by Serbs, and those who were pro-Serbian. Modern Macs, Cros, or Slos effort was minimal and so was their grandparents. In fact whenever was there some shit like Skoplje earthquake the most taxes were paid by Serbs. But whatever, I could go on and on and you'll still deny it.
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 19, 2018 10:57:42 GMT -5
Serbia was were the serious industry was. Slovenes made great aesthetics/creams for women, yeah great stuff.
you dont know Slovenia in 1970/80's.....
anything industrial /nice serbia has is continuation from the past fruits of yugo as a whole
the whole yugo consensus back in the days was "yugoslavia radi serbija jadi " -fact-
they modernized off the backs off the rest of yugo
Once again you are looking to ridicule yourself lil alb. Now, if we define as "modern" "industrial" or "advanced" the design of COMPUTER SYSTEMS, then Serbia was on the top of the list. Not to talk about heavy industry.
You keep propagating BS neo-saxon propaganda about how they wished Jugoslavija was and making up slogans ("yugoslavia radi serbija jadi") which no one knows or ever heard of. Man... is there a bottom for you? a limit?
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Post by rex362 on Sept 19, 2018 11:00:29 GMT -5
all you little squirts are to young to remember that slogan .....go ask your father in law
or it might of been ... Jugoslavia radi Beograd jadi ... /same thing
its was a saying in ALL the republics back then ,not just in my village
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 19, 2018 11:10:38 GMT -5
or it might of been ... Jugoslavia radi Beograd jadi ... /same thing
Beograd was the capital of jugoslavija
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Post by rex362 on Sept 19, 2018 11:13:15 GMT -5
oh i thought it was the next village over from mine .....thanks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 11:27:35 GMT -5
And back throughout all of yugo days the Slovenes were the smartest of the bunch when it came to
any kind of technology and advancements ,the smartest of the bunch .....very industrialized compared
to the rest of the republics
Serbia was were the serious industry was. Slovenes made great aesthetics/creams for women, yeah great stuff.
Slovenia was developed prior to Yugoslavia, but the remaining parts of Yugoslavia were less developed than Serbia. Austrians during AH empire invested in some regions like Styria, they considered it core Austrian provinces, but now they're Slovenia.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 11:29:21 GMT -5
all you little squirts are to young to remember that slogan .....go ask your father in law
or it might of been ... Jugoslavia radi Beograd jadi ... /same thing
its was a saying in ALL the republics back then ,not just in my village
There are still a lot of jealous village people. National pain goes away after couple of generation nation-wide speaking.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 19, 2018 11:35:44 GMT -5
so hence .... thats why the others use to say yugo radi beograd jadi
even Slovenian know-how and money built belgrade
you should of seen how pissed serbs were when Tito allowed the building of schools for Albs in kosova ....do you guys remember that one ? not even your parents were married or even met back then
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 11:43:39 GMT -5
so hence .... thats why the others use to say yugo radi beograd jadi
even Slovenian know-how and money built belgrade
you should of seen how pissed serbs were when Tito allowed the building of schools for Albs in kosova ....do you guys remember that one ? not even your parents were married or even met back then
Do Arabs in France learn Arabic or French in schools? How about Northen Africans in Spain?
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Post by rex362 on Sept 19, 2018 11:49:41 GMT -5
villagers dont need nothing but their soil and rivers ....
my parents lived /villagers lived through collective farming (Kolektiv)( after ww2 )
we had 3 horses 2 mules 3 bulls 9 cows maybe 40 sheep roosters and chickens in our household...that was average .....the goverment took all and left 1 donkey 1 of the oldest cows 1 bull....my father could not sell cheese in market anymore and it took 2 bulls to pull the wagon not 1
where did the rest go ??
plus young people 6-16 of age were taken far away to work /volunteer for months at a time ...no pay... in other's fields farming for goverment supposedly , and when they came back home not even a spoiled pepper was allowed /
dont even get me started on Albanian lands that were confiscated by goverment
mind you that this was used on mostly Albanians in Macedonia ...slavs in villages were the poorest and had very few animals and usually were hired by their Albanians neighbors to work seasonally ...otherwise they sat in the shade watching Albs pass by going to tend their fields ..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:00:01 GMT -5
Concerning Belgrade, the best architecture and civil engineering was done during Obrenovic dynasty, so it was done by Serbs. Whatever you see in the old center of Belgrade with exception of with few buildings was done by Obrenovic dynasty, their urbanists and other Serbs. After that a good amount of building during interwar period like the parliament building and main post office was done by mostly Serbs, Russian architects and funded by Karadjordjevic dynasty, so again Serbs. Now, what was built by communists? Only ugly buildings in brutalist style, and some parts of New Belgrade municipality. All that looks disgusting. But even that was all paid by the money of newly arrived immigrants to Belgrade however. In order to get the apartment you had to work for 10-20 years period in public companies, until you pay off the apartments. Don't worry poor Bosnians, Macedonians, Montenegrins, Croats and Albanians certainly didn't paid anythin, not even a single dinar for it, because... they were too poor.
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