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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 0:22:28 GMT -5
For me its not about choosing between Western version and some other version. Rather its about choosing the best version for creating a good and stable society in future. I can't see how this version can help us build a good society because it lies on the foundation that "we are first, and others are beneath us", and in my mind it can make snobbish people.
I was not even thinking along these lines.
I was thinking along the lines of what actually happened.
But lets also thin k along these lines:
It seems to me that ancient Greeks thought along these lines and (1) perceived everyone else as Barbarians and underneath them (and only were interested in adapting more superior foreign technology from foreigners) and as far as I know were pretty successful as a culture. Until they started (2) adapting foreign cultural ways and (3) perceiving foreigners as equal to them after what they gradually disappeared. During 2nd and 3rd stages you have demilitarization of the society as well as feminization of the males (which are the reasons numbers 2 and 3 are allowed through compassion which is rather a feminine trait).
Same example from the Romans who also underwent same process (1-3) and experienced same outcome at the end.
*Stages 2 and 3 have to do with also dealing with cultures which were not as advanced which degrades the original more advanced culture especially if these kind of foreigners far outnumber Romans lets say (such as village dwelling Celts, forest dwelling Germanics that Tacitus calls half-humans, naked painted Britons or Picts, etc).
Middle Asian Turkics came across more superior Persian culture and quickly adapted their ways and used it in their favor which later greatly benefited them in many ways. So this also works in reverse in a favor of advancing culture as long as IQ differential between the two populations is not that great such as between Persians and Turkics (average 90).
Arabs had a similar view and this in my view helped spread Islam as a religion. They are still holding strong and 2 and 3 haven't occurred yet for most part. Saudi Arabia seems to be under western pressure to give women rights and they just might have made some moves in that department. Referring to certain laws in which case it should be beginning of the end for them as they will mimic the west.
Western countries were running strong as long as 1 was strictly implemented. 20th century sees swift implementation of 2 and 3 (especially last 20-30 years). We see that the west is undergoing an advanced form of social and soon governmental self-destruction which mass migration should complete and act as the final nail in the coffin for the west.
China until now has been implementing primarily stage 1 without giving much attention to 2 or 3 as is the case with say Japan and India.
Jews as people have this view (1) and have strengthened this view since 2WW and holocaust and have even reversed beginning stages of (2) which was especially happening to German Jews who were becoming increasingly assimilated into Germans. Marx might be an example of this (2). Many Jews (average IQ 120-130) on one hand seem to be great proponents of insisting that white countries (IQ=100) adapt great number of migrants from middle east (IQ=80-85) or subsaharan africa (IQ = 65-70). Figure heads of France (Macron) and Canada were even blunt as saying that new race mixing will be underway which will see white people in these countries disappear through race mixing which they welcomed as a great development. Kalergi calls for this and openly states that the new mixed breed will be easier to control and lesser threat. New Europe, at the end of this imagined story, will most likely be composed of a mix that would have 60% Subsaharan, 20% middle eastern and 20% white (average IQ should be no more then 75-80). On the other hand, same Jews are closed to the idea to having Israel adapt some millions of these migrants. But please lets now view this as a double standard as that would be anti-semitic (which is an interesting term as Ashkenazim, who are 80% of Jews, are clearly European in origin and gentically most similar to Balkan people which is also interesting).
(Just for comparison purposes Chimps are 99% genetically identical as humans, thus practically human as far as genes are concerned, can also inbreed with them and create fertile offspring and their IQ = 30-50. Perhaps if we inbreed with them in correct proportions we can create a mixed breed with IQ = 60-65 which would be easier to control by this who though of these things like Kalergi)
I am not saying we need to hate anyone or fear any one but need to just analyticalally review the given data and make the most rational conclusion and take emotions fully aside (such as compassion, guilt etc which are used through various media to program whites). According to some research children are 100% product of genetics as far as behavior is concerned. Adults are 80% genetics and 20% environment. Also my assessment is that every single person is different as, on one end, no one has identical set of genes (other then identical twins) and , on the other end, no one has identical day to day environmental influences (not even identical twins). Genes within a given group will likely be mutually more akin vs some other one (which explains IQ differences as well as differences appearances and behavioral patterns). According to some research no group where average IQ is under 80 can achieve civilization of its own and or maintain one "inherited" (crash of Zimbabwe as an example and currently we can see this unfold in SAR).
Again going back to the topic Vatican seems very involved in gradually degrading Serb ethnic space as well as Russian ethnic space and seems to be very successful in creating Uniate (western Ukraine and probably currently occurring in Montengro) or outright catholic (western Herzegovina and or probably currently occurring in Montenegro). In these examples you can clearly see revision of history as hand. It seems to me that this revision of history happened in 19th century when in comes to much of Balkans. It is also coincidence that by late 19th century you have Germans hosting themselves as ruling royal families in Greece, Bulgaria and Romania (all three seem to have undergone historical revisions also).
If we do not start analyzing this analytically and long term we will not even see what is actually happening.
Great Info here! need more time to read it all carefully.
BTW, do you have any more info about Chimps and humans? I mean certain types of canides cannot interbreed with dogs.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 1:07:32 GMT -5
Looking into it, the Soviets made an attempt to interbreed Chimpanzee and human but it didn't work. Best case it would not be fertile. In any case I guess the lower the IQ the greatest the anarchy and indiscipline. So it might work the other way.
About stage 1) -> 3). I guess the dream of every civilization is to reach a point when it is global. And there are more than one way to do this : - Latin - Arabic - Slavic way : teach your ways / language to others - SAXAN way : impose by force, followed by ultra clever propaganda
- Gothic-German-Albanian way : kill all others and breed as fast as you can
I guess the more "christian" and best way is 1st.
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Post by branislavnusic on Dec 11, 2018 1:18:23 GMT -5
Who do you read from, Deretic? ? hahahahaahahaha
Deretic is good as a starting point. But like many others he makes mistakes and has no knowledge of southern balkans at all. He considers ancient greeks to be african ("Skopjan" version), while in fact ancient Greeks were copy/paste from the Slavs. I am not sure which cloning happened first : Slavs -> Latins or Slavs -> Greeks
That could be easily studied by lexicographical and phonetic distance between most basic words.
Those are the true questions historians should care about. Posing trivialities like the one you are posing is only holding research back.
AND ULF..... BRANISLAV....
THERE IS MORE HERE :
101% of neo-greeks believe whatever silly story local propaganda generates (with help from the west of course). In fact HERE IN GREECE , you are considered a TRAITOR if you don't go along those lines. (same like in Albania)... Brane you got a point here.
in SERBIA? ?? About 99% of the people will tell you that Deretic is charlatan, pseudi-istorija, what happened is not relevant any more, who cares, etc... all it matters is today to make a better future etc... Vucic is traitor, etc ... (Ulf's take).
So, I don't think Serbs are anywhere "greek" "dangerous" levels, as far as ULF's worries are concerned.
Lol what Deretic says can not be backed up by any linguistic/historical analysis.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 2:16:05 GMT -5
Lol what Deretic says can not be backed up by any linguistic/historical analysis. You start to remind me the western tactics : isolate -> ridicule -> downgrade -> repeat .
So : 1) BE MORE SPECIFIC ON WHICH POINTS YOU DISAGREE WITH DERETIC 2) IT IS NOT ONLY DERETIC . THERE IS AN ARMY OF SLAVIC PEOPLE WHO START TO WAKE UP, MAKE INDEPENDENT STUDIES , AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM REACHING THE SAME CONCLUSIONS.
In western history things are simple : anti-slav west creates history *CENTRALLY* and sells it to the nations : and the crowds of zombies believe. Simple process.
But now, we got here NUMEROUS *INDEPENDENT* (how much more can i stress that??) researchers with : - NO FUNDING - NO CENTRAL AUTHORITY - NO COORDINATION
who ALL of them reach the same results...
Brane sine moj, by all chances *YOU* and your english lies have the defect and not the independent researchers.
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Next time try to be more specific .
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 8:51:46 GMT -5
Great Info here! need more time to read it all carefully. BTW, do you have any more info about Chimps and humans? I mean certain types of canides cannot interbreed with dogs.
I did find something before but not able to find it now. But lets look at bellow articles and entertain the idea that it is accurate and the lets use logical deduction.
now lets see
Science seems t believe now that Orangutans are genetically closer to us vs Chimps. I am not going to argue with science. I will substitute words chimp with orangutan then for precision purposes and to simplify the story.
PS: My line of thinking with chimps is that considering they are 98-99% genetically identical and until recently perceived to be the great ape that is closest to us genetically that considering orangutan can inbreed with human that surely chimp can as well. Still my view on chimps being able to inbreed with us has not changed. Article bellow adds to that.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 9:08:47 GMT -5
Orangutans appear little more intelligent then Chimps.
If chimps are 30-50 on human IQ scale then orangutans are probably ~ 40-55.
PS: Unrelated. Interesting to note that Australian aboriginals and Somalis and Haitians are ~65.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 9:26:40 GMT -5
Now lets spice this story up and concentrate on 400,000 years ago.
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Now lets look at sumerian tablets and their creation story
(Sumer is first human civilization in human history that sprung up out of nowhere really)
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Research more: Annunaki 400,000 years ago
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=annunaki+400%2C000+years+ago
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 9:42:19 GMT -5
These Annunaki are described as white (giant in form).
Ashkenazim (eastern European genetically, Balkan to be precise) are IQ=120-130. I am assuming that there has been some selective breeding going on for centuries to get to these numbers.
Through their selective breading probably annunaki (or human part) increases and thus ape ("cave man") decreases
Europeans range around 100.
I am assuming that European numbers 100 years ago were at least by 10 higher and that since then
Europeans have undergone intellectual regression especially since the 2WW. And this has accelerated
in the past 20-30 years.
There is a pressure on all (and only) white countries to accept migrants. They are to inbreed and IQ would drop to max 75-80. (probably averaging at 75).
That would increase caveman part to a point probably deemed as irreversible.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 10:47:07 GMT -5
New species are emerging Admin.
In the meantime, talking about IQ, how do you comment on the fact that most IQ maps try to show Serbs as low as they can?
Are Humans/Slavs creations of GOD, and Germans/Saxons products of the Anunakis?
Does God wants us *THAT* smart in the first place? (clearly NOT).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 11:09:46 GMT -5
That's from series of Earth Chronicles, a quasi-archeology set of books written by economonist and mythologist Zecharia Sitchin. He was Azerbaijani born who emigrated to UK, and became very famous by such fringe theories of early human history.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 12:11:21 GMT -5
Any sane person with half a brain can see that SLAVIC is the oldest of the IndoEURO tangs... I can't get why so many Serbs want to punish themselves endlessly like their face in the mirror is the biggest threat to humanity ever.... Hilarious...
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 12:17:19 GMT -5
Hej samo sada sam guglirao o Miljkovicu, Gospodin Miljkovic je iz Nisa, zbog toga, ja branim za njega jos vise!!! Sretan sam kada ima Srba kao on!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 13:16:08 GMT -5
Any sane person with half a brain can see that SLAVIC is the oldest of the IndoEURO tangs... I can't get why so many Serbs want to punish themselves endlessly like their face in the mirror is the biggest threat to humanity ever.... Hilarious...
Indo-European language have origins north of Caspian and Black sea. Those are historical regions of the Slavs. Nobody denies that. We know Slavs are old, but sheer name Slavs appeared later. The most probable theory for me is that forefathers of Slavs existed before they formed tribal alliance and became known as Slavs, but each tribe had different tribal name, to a degree different culture, that probably merged into one, and also you have to know there were surely more smaller tribes. For example Russians, are not just Moscow people, but also Tver, Novgorod and others and each was at one point independent state. Poles were not only Poles etc. Belarussians had a couple of their own smaller tribes there, etc.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 13:17:29 GMT -5
That's from series of Earth Chronicles, a quasi-archeology set of books written by economonist and mythologist Zecharia Sitchin. He was Azerbaijani born who emigrated to UK, and became very famous by such fringe theories of early human history.
I looked up criticism on him on wikipedia just to get a quick general idea.
I honestly dont see anything concrete enough to outright dismiss this guy.
In fact what i see is more related to technicality.
I am sorry but I have doubts about many things as I believe something is preventing us from learning the truth.
That same something is pushing things like evolution in the schools since around 100 years ago (interesting enough
to note that this is the first thing communist would push on pupils once they come to power) even though this is just
a theory and without any actual proof that evolution occurred. In fact there is no transitional animal ever discovered
and they have never even discovered full skeleton from 'ancient' animals. Just whole lot of speculation.
Another theory that makes no sense is theory of big bang and generally atheistic view of the world. World came out
of chaos and disorder even though everything seems to function based on some kind of set of laws. If that was not the
case no science would be able to exist in the first place.
Now climate change is being pushed by so called scientists even though I am convinced there is a 2030 agenda at hand and that is part of it. There is ample of scientific research that disproves that average human being has anything much to do with climate change and that is not to say that governments (via chem trails, not even all that hidden any more) and big corporations are not the main culprits in this story as it can be seen by ultra-polluted cities in India and China.
Annunaki story completes the logical wholes here to be honest.
Less then IQ=80, means inability to create civilization and proves are all around the world.
How else other then annunaki story can one explain that on one extreme you have Australian aboriginal (IQ=60-65)
, who until Europeans arrived lives clearly as cave-men, and on the other hand you have Ashkenazim (IQ=120-130)
and even though one has DOUBLE the IQ of the other they are perceived as members of the same specie.
Where else in the animal kingdom do you have such examples?
(lets ignore that nearby low IQ populations you can find almost genetically identical apes, especially akin to these
populations, where IQ is 40-50)
We need to stop feeding our self with the programming that the system is trying for us to absorb.
Technicalities will not work here. (especially when vast majority of the rest of the mosaic is untouched)
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 13:32:24 GMT -5
New species are emerging Admin.
In the meantime, talking about IQ, how do you comment on the fact that most IQ maps try to show Serbs as low as they can?
Are Humans/Slavs creations of GOD, and Germans/Saxons products of the Anunakis?
Does God wants us *THAT* smart in the first place? (clearly NOT).
In the meantime, talking about IQ, how do you comment on the fact that most IQ maps try to show Serbs as low as they can?
Keep in mind that Serbs are undergoing a silent genocide since at least 2WW and especially since the 90s. Incompetent politicians (which is what they usually are but these really take the cake and take it to the next level) installed by WE to gradually degrade the economy further and further as well as social fabric (farma, JK, etc etc) . More intelligent and highly qualified people gradually move out every year (to the tune of 40-50,000 a year. Multiply this by say at least 25 years and this becomes 1,500,000. That is one a huge number!!! What or who is left behind then. People who believe that Vucic or Tadic or whoever will save them.
Still there is many intelligent Serbs but many moved out and the overall percentage in the total population have depleted.
That was and is the point.
Currently Serbs are at 95 I believe.
Add diaspora and surely this would jump to 105.
Are Humans/Slavs creations of GOD, and Germans/Saxons products of the Anunakis?
Sumerian scripts were showing them as individuals with their own personalities. Some were pro-human and some were against. They appear to me as a kind of humans with advanced technology and ability to live 1000 year life-spans. I do not perceive as
actually something divine although some of the at least want to preset themselves as such for easier control over humans.
Does God wants us *THAT* smart in the first place? (clearly NOT).
I don't believe that they would want us to be all that advanced that we could rival them (which might be next to impossible to achieve btw) . According to Sumerian text we are merely an experiment. Considering the speed we are multiplying and using human resources I would not be surprised to think that at least some of them perceive us as a growing virus overwhelming the body (earth) that might need some kind of gradual correction over a long term time span.
PS: Now whether demons and Devil has anything to do with annunaki or is something all together separate I am not sure to be honest and I find it foolish to just outright dismiss things I don't have an ability of understanding. I tend to believe this might be a separate topic also.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 13:37:50 GMT -5
Was thinking about bellow topic as I was thinking about Annunaki.
If bellow info is accurate then they would probably be at least number 2 or number 3 civilization.
PS: Anther separate but related question is what would give Kardashev idea to even come up with this scale?!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 13:44:25 GMT -5
This is what I believe, see whole:
Inventing great history of the past won't make you great, and is thus useless.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 11, 2018 14:27:09 GMT -5
Really nice video.
I agree that cowardice is paralyzing today's world and destroying it gradually.
So many things are being overlooked as a result plus thru media (cultural Marxism)
I think cowardice here is related to living in big cities where person doesn't grow their own food and thus depends on
working for someone else (basically voluntary serfdom) .
How can someone living in a big city as a voluntary serf be truly a free person and brave?
I am not concerned about being great.
I just want to have a more precise picture about what really happened and hopefully learn from the past.
How can someone be truly free if they are prevented at every turn from from learning truth.
That is not a free person, that is a small child in actuality or at least treated as such.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 14:28:32 GMT -5
that probably merged into one,
hmm it might.... but it seems to me that since the separation started it was steadily getting worse and worse.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 11, 2018 14:34:02 GMT -5
I am not concerned about being great.
I just want to have a more precise picture about what really happened and hopefully learn from the past.
How can someone be truly free if they are prevented at every turn from from learning truth.
That is not a free person, that is a small child in actuality or at least treated as such.
100% agree. Truth (good or bad) is the #1 prerequisite for anything. And what teaches us as history is plain BS.
If you guys could see the extends of history butchering has happened in Greece you would be shocked.... We are talking about extreme stuff...
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