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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 13:08:36 GMT -5
Rate the countries of Balkan from 1 to 5, and explain why.
In alphabetical order:
Albania 1 Bosnia 2 Bulgaria 4 Croatia 3.5 Greece 3 Macedonia 3Montenegro 2.5 Romania 4 Serbia 3 Slovenia 4.5
Bosnia and Albania are Muslim terrorist/criminal hubs of Europe (funded by Saudis and US). Bosnia a bit better due to 50% of Christian population.
Montenegro is autocratic dictatorship for last 30 years,now even under NATO protection. Serbia and Macedonia in pretty similar positions, both poor but still not so decadent as previous 3. Serbia trying to keep status quo but at a cost of declining into serious mafia-owned locked-down anarchy-to-be, Macedonia trying to fix foreign relations and prestige with the help of wrong people's money.
Bulgaria and Romania doing much better these days. They managed to do some great things for their citizens in terms of quality of life and their economy in general, but they are still not wealthy enough to be masters of their own destiny. Heavily dependent on NATO on foreign issues.
I would've said the same for Croatia until recently, but their current government has task to replace their population. Ridiculous, borderline fascist, nationalistic policy lost them more than half million people in last few years and 0.5 points, or else they would to be on the same terms with Romania or Bulgaria. Slovenia sitting sole on top. In the last 30 years they played the way they should in order to protect good life of their citizens. They are very close to the rich country in terms of standard of living, but they have balanced aid from the government.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 13:11:06 GMT -5
Greece has stupid backward government, that has the goal to decline the life of everyone (but mostly those of anti-West views) and create one big chaos. Their foreign policy has been wrong for long period. They can easily put their people in war they will lose smoothly (vs Turkey).
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 29, 2019 8:43:57 GMT -5
dude, if e.g. we speak about OS or platforms it would take pages and pages to do a semi-decent benchmark. When we speak of nations, then it would take 100s of pages.
But if we could normalize data, so that the denominator could be made constant, then by far the leaders in this list would be the Serbs.
Also if I had to follow your standards (which I dont) I would put 3 on Bosnia as well.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 29, 2019 10:06:45 GMT -5
Rate the countries of Balkan from 1 to 5, and explain why.
In alphabetical order:
Albania 1 Bosnia 2 Bulgaria 4 Croatia 3.5 Greece 3 Macedonia 3Montenegro 2.5 Romania 4 Serbia 3 Slovenia 4.5
Bosnia and Albania are Muslim terrorist/criminal hubs of Europe (funded by Saudis and US).
Bosnia a bit better due to 50% of Christian population.
Montenegro is autocratic dictatorship for last 30 years,now even under NATO protection.
Serbia and Macedonia in pretty similar positions, both poor but still not so decadent as previous 3.
Serbia trying to keep status quo but at a cost of declining into serious mafia-owned locked-down anarchy-to-be,
Macedonia trying to fix foreign relations and prestige with the help of wrong people's money.
Bulgaria and Romania doing much better these days. They managed to do some great things for their
citizens in terms of quality of life and their economy in general, but they are still not wealthy enough
to be masters of their own destiny. Heavily dependent on NATO on foreign issues.
I would've said the same for Croatia until recently, but their current government has task to replace their
population. Ridiculous, borderline fascist, nationalistic policy lost them more than half million people in last
few years and 0.5 points, or else they would to be on the same terms with Romania or Bulgaria.
Slovenia sitting sole on top. In the last 30 years they played the way they should in order to protect good life
of their citizens. They are very close to the rich country in terms of standard of living, but they have balanced
aid from the government.
Fully agree with everything you said ulf.
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Post by Duško on Jan 29, 2019 10:41:32 GMT -5
But if we could normalize data, so that the denominator could be made constant, then by far the leaders in this list would be the Serbs What world do you live in? There's no confidence in the law, so many people walking around free who should be arrested for theft and corruption, and they would have in a western country. Serbia's judicial system is the reason why the country is backwards and that's nothing but corruption, our corruption. Politicians who have 5 houses and we're talking villas, businessmen who bought companies for 1USD during/after the war, how are they not arrested? More shockingly, how are these people not ashamed to show their faces.
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 29, 2019 12:57:10 GMT -5
But if we could normalize data, so that the denominator could be made constant, then by far the leaders in this list would be the Serbs What world do you live in? There's no confidence in the law, so many people walking around free who should be arrested for theft and corruption, and they would have in a western country. Serbia's judicial system is the reason why the country is backwards and that's nothing but corruption, our corruption. Politicians who have 5 houses and we're talking villas, businessmen who bought companies for 1USD during/after the war, how are they not arrested? More shockingly, how are these people not ashamed to show their faces. google "denominator" and "normalization". Any other country would have easily collapsed under this international hostile environment. Everybody knows that. (even the aliens in your freaking planet where you live in)
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Post by Duško on Jan 29, 2019 13:14:12 GMT -5
What world do you live in? There's no confidence in the law, so many people walking around free who should be arrested for theft and corruption, and they would have in a western country. Serbia's judicial system is the reason why the country is backwards and that's nothing but corruption, our corruption. Politicians who have 5 houses and we're talking villas, businessmen who bought companies for 1USD during/after the war, how are they not arrested? More shockingly, how are these people not ashamed to show their faces. google "denominator" and "normalization". Any other country would have easily collapsed under this international hostile environment. Everybody knows that. (even the aliens in your freaking planet where you live in)
How does this have anything to do with what I said? Hostile international environment vs internal corruption and thievery. These are two seperate issues.
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 29, 2019 14:49:29 GMT -5
google "denominator" and "normalization". Any other country would have easily collapsed under this international hostile environment. Everybody knows that. (even the aliens in your freaking planet where you live in)
How does this have anything to do with what I said? Hostile international environment vs internal corruption and thievery. These are two seperate issues.
of course it is relevant to what you said. and the two you mention are highly correlated. that's basic stuff.
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Post by Duško on Jan 29, 2019 18:44:44 GMT -5
How does this have anything to do with what I said? Hostile international environment vs internal corruption and thievery. These are two seperate issues.
of course it is relevant to what you said. and the two you mention are highly correlated. that's basic stuff.
Reason and decency is at an all time low and this is fully in our control regardless of who occupies us. As a non-Serb I can see how you don't understand, but the Serbian people have degraded horribly when comparing to not that long ago. What the internationalists are doing to Serbia in reality is about 30-40% of the damage, the rest is on us.
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 30, 2019 0:32:13 GMT -5
of course it is relevant to what you said. and the two you mention are highly correlated. that's basic stuff.
Reason and decency is at an all time low and this is fully in our control regardless of who occupies us. As a non-Serb I can see how you don't understand, but the Serbian people have degraded horribly when comparing to not that long ago. What the internationalists are doing to Serbia in reality is about 30-40% of the damage, the rest is on us.
This is the reason why I understand, and you cannot. Because I see it from the ex-non-Slavic POV. When things are marginal, even a 1% can make the damage.
And I repeat, the OP posed the question of : COMPARISON, and I added the notion of NORMALIZATION in order the comparison to be sound and valid. This is very clear. And explicit. And measurable if you wish. Law-system in Serbia sucks, that's for sure, but it could be in a much better condition than in Greece for FAR LESS MONEY. EFFICIENCY this is the key word. And ALL Slavic balkans has this in much greater quantities than some much praised western colonies like Greece. fact is fact.
BTW, has anyone noticed that the same exact degradation that Serbs experience also happen in every single Slavic country (and worse)? Will anyone see the elephant in the room eventually ?
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 30, 2019 2:10:14 GMT -5
Lets keep the conversation as civil as possible. No reason to question who lives in what world for instance. I would hate something trivial as that to divert this interesting conversation.
Personally I believe this degradation to be an organized globalist trend that has been going on since the 1960s
and not unique to Serbs only. Implemented primarily through media (whether JK influencing young teen girls to
become promiscuous or whether Farma is normalizing abnormal behavior) and lately being more and more openly
pushed by state institutions (gay and trans agenda, feminism, early sexualisation of children, global warming, evolution and many dogmas masquerading as science (ex. vaccines which are FULL of neurotoxins targeting children) ,
open praise of abortions (lately even late term abortions which is more the likely merely a 'ritual' ) and
other forms of brainwashing that all have clearly one thing in common, which is promotion of depopulation.
It all started with famous "sex, drugs and rock and roll" in the 60s at the era when TV were practically made to become
mandatory in all the homes across the west (obviously one reason is for teens to be influenced by rock and roll).
(for anyone unware of what is being said here!)
I am afraid we are dealing with something that is extremely well thought out and it is being laid out gradually and this something has superb (if not complete) understanding of human nature and understands all our weak points.
I highly doubt that this something has one ounce of sympathy for humans.
Strip away village-life, family-structure, traditions and religion. Move people to cities which gradually degrade everything above. Plus humans (serfs) fully depend on some factory or government handouts. Inability to even produce your own food.
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 30, 2019 10:22:12 GMT -5
Admin I agree with you that this is 101% westo business. But I somehow feel two things happen here : 1) the majority of Serbs dont complain because of "evil zionist gay / lesbo depopulation pro-islam, anti-white" etc agenda, but because they dont have the stability, access to funds, economy and development like westo countries enjoy 2) indeed majority of countries where the alleged NWO agenda thrives, also they have almost perfect systems and great economies
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Post by Duško on Jan 30, 2019 12:04:16 GMT -5
Lets keep the conversation as civil as possible. No reason to question who lives in what world for instance. I would hate something trivial as that to divert this interesting conversation.
Personally I believe this degradation to be an organized globalist trend that has been going on since the 1960s
and not unique to Serbs only. Implemented primarily through media (whether JK influencing young teen girls to
become promiscuous or whether Farma is normalizing abnormal behavior) and lately being more and more openly
pushed by state institutions (gay and trans agenda, feminism, early sexualisation of children, global warming, evolution and many dogmas masquerading as science (ex. vaccines which are FULL of neurotoxins targeting children) ,
open praise of abortions (lately even late term abortions which is more the likely merely a 'ritual' ) and
other forms of brainwashing that all have clearly one thing in common, which is promotion of depopulation.
It all started with famous "sex, drugs and rock and roll" in the 60s at the era when TV were practically made to become
mandatory in all the homes across the west (obviously one reason is for teens to be influenced by rock and roll).
(for anyone unware of what is being said here!)
I am afraid we are dealing with something that is extremely well thought out and it is being laid out gradually and this something has superb (if not complete) understanding of human nature and understands all our weak points.
I highly doubt that this something has one ounce of sympathy for humans.
Strip away village-life, family-structure, traditions and religion. Move people to cities which gradually degrade everything above. Plus humans (serfs) fully depend on some factory or government handouts. Inability to even produce your own food.
Correct. This degrade in the West started in the Frankfurt School.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jan 30, 2019 16:23:18 GMT -5
Rate the countries of Balkan from 1 to 5, and explain why.
In alphabetical order:
Albania 1 Bosnia 2 Bulgaria 4 Croatia 3.5 Greece 3 Macedonia 3Montenegro 2.5 Romania 4 Serbia 3 Slovenia 4.5
Bosnia and Albania are Muslim terrorist/criminal hubs of Europe (funded by Saudis and US). Bosnia a bit better due to 50% of Christian population.
Montenegro is autocratic dictatorship for last 30 years,now even under NATO protection. Serbia and Macedonia in pretty similar positions, both poor but still not so decadent as previous 3. Serbia trying to keep status quo but at a cost of declining into serious mafia-owned locked-down anarchy-to-be, Macedonia trying to fix foreign relations and prestige with the help of wrong people's money.
Bulgaria and Romania doing much better these days. They managed to do some great things for their citizens in terms of quality of life and their economy in general, but they are still not wealthy enough to be masters of their own destiny. Heavily dependent on NATO on foreign issues.
I would've said the same for Croatia until recently, but their current government has task to replace their population. Ridiculous, borderline fascist, nationalistic policy lost them more than half million people in last few years and 0.5 points, or else they would to be on the same terms with Romania or Bulgaria. Slovenia sitting sole on top. In the last 30 years they played the way they should in order to protect good life of their citizens. They are very close to the rich country in terms of standard of living, but they have balanced aid from the government.
the countries which are most western are top ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 3:19:54 GMT -5
the countries which are most western are top ? Every Balkan country is pro-Western. There is no big difference in "amount of Westerness" between them. Only difference is in amount of corruption, greed, cultural marxism, and other things which one can put in a single category namely - entropy of a society.
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 31, 2019 4:34:41 GMT -5
the countries which are most western are top ? Every Balkan country is pro-Western. There is no big difference in "amount of Westerness" between them. Only difference is in amount of corruption, greed, cultural marxism, and other things which one can put in a single category namely - entropy of a society. your so called only difference is rather a consequence of an explicit policy and not something builtin or inherent. There is a huge difference in "westerness" between balkan countries. On a scale between 1 and 10 (with 10 being Anglia) I would put them : Slovenia : 9 Cyprus : 9
Croatia : 8.5 Bosnia : 8.4 Serbia : 8 Bulgaria : 8 Makedonia : 8
CG : 7 Greece : 1 Albania : 1
^^^ Under normalization of course.
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 31, 2019 5:14:51 GMT -5
But there are a lot of fields actually :
civil planning
performance on the engineering sector perf on manufacturing on design on organization on scaling capabilities on integration speed of transition and adaptation
economy of transition
effectiveness on budgeting
adherence to rules discipline
and many others
DIVIDED by the funds and positive advertising coming from westo countries ... which is pretty much the known Dostojevski's formula .
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 31, 2019 6:01:05 GMT -5
But there are a lot of fields actually :
civil planning
performance on the engineering sector perf on manufacturing on design on organization on scaling capabilities on integration speed of transition and adaptation
economy of transition
effectiveness on budgeting
adherence to rules discipline
and many others
DIVIDED by the funds and positive advertising coming from westo countries ... which is pretty much the known Dostojevski's formula .
in my POV , the winners :
civil planning : Slovenia/Croatia/Bosnia performance on the engineering sector : Serbia by far perf on manufacturing : Serbia by far on design : Serbia by far on organization (smaller scale) : Slovenia/Croatia/Cyprus on scaling capabilities : Bulgaria on integration : Bulgaria speed of transition and adaptation : Bulgaria economy of transition : Serbia effectiveness on budgeting : Serbia adherence to rules : Bulgaria discipline : Bulgaria
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Post by branislavnusic on Jan 31, 2019 12:33:21 GMT -5
the countries which are most western are top ? Every Balkan country is pro-Western. There is no big difference in "amount of Westerness" between them. Only difference is in amount of corruption, greed, cultural marxism, and other things which one can put in a single category namely - entropy of a society. other than that I agree with the list
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 14:43:59 GMT -5
Every Balkan country is pro-Western. There is no big difference in "amount of Westerness" between them. Only difference is in amount of corruption, greed, cultural marxism, and other things which one can put in a single category namely - entropy of a society. your so called only difference is rather a consequence of an explicit policy and not something builtin or inherent. There is a huge difference in "westerness" between balkan countries. On a scale between 1 and 10 (with 10 being Anglia) I would put them : Slovenia : 9 Cyprus : 9
Croatia : 8.5 Bosnia : 8.4 Serbia : 8 Bulgaria : 8 Makedonia : 8
CG : 7 Greece : 1 Albania : 1
^^^ Under normalization of course.
Ever heard of Serbs that tell their children to work in Belarus? How about Mongolia? But you have plenty of them in Slovakia or Czech Republic lately.
Also, take note I said from 1 to 5, not from 1 to 10.
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