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Post by terroreign on Mar 12, 2008 0:31:33 GMT -5
And they are....
If you wish to know where my whole family comes from just ask...
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Post by podgoricanin on Mar 12, 2008 0:46:38 GMT -5
No thanks.....I'm sure all forum members have a pretty good idea where you and your family stem from......Thanks ;D
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Post by terroreign on Mar 12, 2008 1:07:29 GMT -5
You mean you and Yeni Pazar...you dweebs
Most know for a fact I'm from CG, since on the old forum I uploaded pics of me there from summer
So if you feel like speaking govno to me anymore, do so with knowledge, not with your absence of it
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Post by podgoricanin on Mar 12, 2008 1:26:00 GMT -5
All it takes is a airline ticket to go to CG...doesn't mean or prove much to me genius Ej, I have pictures of myself in Canada....you wanna see...do you.....yes......! I'm serious....ohh I also have pics of myself in America...you wanna see...majmune jedan Is that smart enough for you ......NO WAIT daj da stavi onu bijelu tutu na glavu kao sto ti i tvoji nose .....Mozda ce mi dati malo pamet il bar da i nazmisljam kao TI SIPAK
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Post by terroreign on Mar 12, 2008 1:49:43 GMT -5
Well an airline ticket, connecting flights, long process E pa sad kad pricas o tvom kapu Imam sliku s mojom crnogorskom kapom ;D E viva!
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Post by vucigorski on Mar 12, 2008 8:45:33 GMT -5
^^ To be fair im only 1/4 Kuci Im also 1/4 Ozrinici and 1/4 Cuce (Djukanovic represent!) ahahhaa As for Albanians in Kuci............theres no denying that they exist. However they were never a huge part of the tribe. Ide like to think that I have no Siptar blood, but it wouldnt surprise me if i did. I wouldnt really even care, its the Balkans.........were expected to mix ahahahah. Im actually alrite with alot of Catholic Siptars in Montenegro, its the ones in Kosovo that I despise. The only thing that angers me about the Sips in Montenegro is there blatant support of the "Montenegrin ethnicity". They know it doesnt exist..........they just want to break up the Slav unity in Montenegro *Divide and Conquer*. However I cant blame them for this, we would do the same thing in their shoes. Kuci was always a predominatly SERBIAN tribe with an Albanian minority. There were no "Bosnjaks" or "Montenegrins" etc I remember going to an Albanian Catholic wedding in 2002 near Bar. Sako Polumenta was singing.........and right at the end they started waving the Albanian flag alongside the Yugoslav and Montenegrin-Serb tri colour flag. Ive even got it on tape......was a killer wedding!
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Post by montenegrodeki on Mar 12, 2008 9:24:09 GMT -5
Mate, god knows who we are, maybe i have got some african in me for all i know , thats why all this hatred stuff is a nonsense, in the balkans it is such a huge mix, its laughable the way people hate each other so much, Albania greatest ever hero George Kastrioti Skenderbeu was a Montenegrin,The founder of the Montenegrin state Ivan Crnojevic was married to an Albanian, Croatia's greatest ever tennis player Ivanisevic was Montenegrin and ETC, so it all a load of rubbish really, im this im that i hate you because your that. The facts are Montenegrins must be good with all their Nighbours becuase all have a long history together, But most of all Montenegro must be good with Serbia, they are brothers in blood and if we are to have a prosperous and safe Montenegro in the future, we must work with Serbia very closely.
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Post by benzino on Mar 12, 2008 10:50:56 GMT -5
Kuci is an albanian Tribe, if you accept it or not. You dont have no Idea how many Albanians in Kosovo and Albania are from Kucis Tribe. In MNE the Kucis who have been assimilated are minority to the rest of Kucis. Only one little "piece" of them lives in MNE who have been assimilated and feels like Montenegrins the rest and majority are in Albania and Kosovo.
Hajredin Kuçi is a Kosovo Albanian politician and current Deputy Prime Minister of Kosovo.
Kuc/Kuq means in Albanian "Red"
I have no Problem if some in MNE feels like Montes, and i dont wanna try to make them Albanians again, but this is the History of the Kucis.
Majority of the Kucis Tribe are Muslims (Because of Osmans), then Katholics and Orthodox (those who are assimilated and feels now Montenegrins).
The Krasnics (in Kosovo and Albania) are related to Vasojevic´s. Vasa and Krasa were Brothers. But Today the Vasojevics are biggest anti-Albanians and Milosevic was from Vasojevic Tribe.
The People from Velika (near Berane) are from alb. Shalja Tribe, but Today they are assimilated and feels like Srbs and are big Cetniks. There are Montenegrins too near Berane from alb Kastrati Tribe who have been assimilated and feels like Srbs. Today they call themselfs "Kastratovic"....
Bjelopavlics (or in Albanian Pal Bardhajt) are related to Dukagjinis. Only Bjelopavlics have been Assimilated.
Ozrnici are related to Klimenti Tribe.
For some Nationalists this is something unbeliveble and for them the truth hurts.
Ask yourself why Montenegrins and Albanians have Tribe and the Srbs in Srbia not?
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Post by benzino on Mar 12, 2008 11:02:45 GMT -5
Look this Old Pic of Velika and see what they wearing
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Post by terroreign on Mar 12, 2008 12:03:32 GMT -5
Kuci are just Montenegrins and Albanians, a big mix
Albanians in fact were throughout history our most trusted allies
Serbia were our allies, but not trustworthy ;P
I'm actually part Kuci myself, and it is a Montenegrin tribe, maybe in kosovo its albanian or got assimilated into something else
And I've actually been to Velika, do you know why it was named that?
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Post by benzino on Mar 12, 2008 12:26:34 GMT -5
i only know that they are from Salja (Shala)Tribe (confirmend by Gutenberg, E. Durham, Franz Nopca etc). I can also post albanian Facts about Salijans but maybe u dont accept it thats why im tryin to post you only non albanian Facts.
I dont know how come to this Name "Velika", maybe u can tell me something about it.
Kuq(Kuc) means in Albanian "The Red" ( The red one). The Mountains of the Kucis are called "Bjeshket e Kuqe" it means "The red Mountains". The Orthodox Kucis of Montenegro are in Minority (in Number) if you see how many Kucis are in Kosovo and Albania and Part of Malsia.
And yes, today the Kucis are Montenegrin (like you) and Albanian (like your Kuci-blood brothers in Kosovo and Albania ) , your right.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 12, 2008 12:45:30 GMT -5
Yes they have to do with the Salja tribe, my uncle told me a story about them:
His great-grandfather's last name was Shala, and he came from northern albania to Montenegro because of Vendetta, and he came to the village of Velika, and became very popular there among the Montenegrins, and soon enough he became the Leader of the village, from which everyone called him "Knez", from this the Montenegrin last name "Knezevic" comes from.
Anyways Velika, as I was told from the people there, was named during WW1 or 2, somewhere around this time
A small band of Japanese soldiers where lost during the war, wandering the hills in Montenegro, they came upon the village of Velika and were ferociously attacked by the Montenegrins there, all of the japanese soldiers being killed except one. The survivor went back to Japan, and when asked by the Emperor, "What great warriors defeated your men?", the soldier replied with emphasis, "Velika"
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Post by benzino on Mar 12, 2008 13:40:41 GMT -5
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Mar 12, 2008 14:57:02 GMT -5
Hey also i am part of Shala tribes, I heard alot montengrins and Sandjaks are origin of Shala tribes (that assimilatet last 3 Century).
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Post by podgoricanin on Mar 13, 2008 0:22:36 GMT -5
My fathers side of the family is also from Kuci, however told by my great grandfather that our origins came originally from Trebinje area.
Benz....Nice analogy....... I've heard many different versions, and am not neither denying or acknowledging yours.
While on the subject the malisor/serb last name of Bojaj/Bojovic are originally from near Niksic and migrated to malisor populated areas also due to vendetta. Very interesting.
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Post by vucigorski on Mar 14, 2008 0:41:53 GMT -5
Podgoricanin.............kako se prezivas? Imam knjigu kodkuce gdje lista sve porodice Kuci. Ipak se moze desit da smo rodjaci ahahhaha
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Post by montenegrodeki on Mar 14, 2008 4:39:40 GMT -5
Terroreign, Montenegrin Clans are also very much connected to Serbians too, after the Battle of Kosovo many Serbs from Bosnia and Serbia itself Came to Montenegro, these are the clans that were totally against Independece recently and are Fanatical Serbs[ie:Arkan] like Vasojevici and Bjelopavlici. I am from a clan of old Montenegro Katunska nahija, the Pješivci clan, is there any body else from a old Montenegrin Can and does anybody know our Origins, some people Claim we were there way before the Slavs arrived, in the 16th Centuary.
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Post by vucigorski on Mar 14, 2008 7:17:43 GMT -5
^^ Cuce are originally from Hercegovina. Njegusi are orginally from areas around Zenica (Bosna)............well at least the Petrovici were for sure.
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Post by vucigorski on Mar 14, 2008 21:07:33 GMT -5
^^ Aj stfu............youre the least learned person when it comes to knowledge about the history of Montenegrin clans. Remember you were the one who stated that the Vasojevici were the biggest supporters of Independance of Montenegro.
PS. Do you really believe that tribes like NJegusi etc would originally be from Cetinje? Cetinje is surrounded by hills with very minimal agriculture and living standards. There is no way they would have started their civilisation there..................The only answer would have been migration towards this area after the Turks came. Tha explains why Serbs arrived there from conquered areas like Bosna and Kosovo, because it was usually independant.
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Post by podgoricanin on Mar 15, 2008 9:22:11 GMT -5
Podgoricanin.............kako se prezivas? Imam knjigu kodkuce gdje lista sve porodice Kuci. Ipak se moze desit da smo rodjaci ahahhaha
^ Svi smo mi rodjaci na neki nacin.......hehehe......Al se ipak prezivam Perovic the Pješivci clan, is there any body else from a old Montenegrin Clan ^ My mothers side of the family is from there........ Tacno se selo zove Zagorak blizo Tunjevo....il bolje poznato mjesto glava zeta
Terro .............. Sto se tebe tice magare..........ti si samo obicni balavac koji ne umije ni svoj nos obrisat.......NO IDI U KREVET I SPAVAJ( U STALU)
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