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Post by superman on Nov 12, 2007 8:36:52 GMT -5
and Oscar, wbb is one of the representative for the future of Hungary, he represents something, a reality that you try to hide. He is real, and his thoughts are real.
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Post by wbb on Nov 12, 2007 10:18:08 GMT -5
what's makes u thinks that Bonni? did Allah send down 1 of his angel and told u that WBB is actually gonna be the man of the job to save Hungary? man im very surprised what u said , i dont know if my thoughts are real but when Prophet Mohammed was preaching the last commandment from Allah his thought are real, people use to throw rocks at him and put their own chit at his front door step every morning and look what happen right now, too many people including me are now muslims, if it's wasnt for Muhammed's honesty, kindness, generousity, Islam wouldnt spread through out the world. But im not sure about me but if i follow the same way how Muhammed use to do, who knows what happen in the near future.
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Post by superman on Nov 12, 2007 11:27:47 GMT -5
I just don't like that Oscar to say bad things about you wbb. Wbb, are you destructive for Hungary as Oscar said?
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Post by wbb on Nov 13, 2007 0:45:20 GMT -5
no im not, but that's ok, doesnt matter what other hungarians thinks as long as they wont start any civil war with us muslims in hungary, we promote peace.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Nov 13, 2007 5:17:08 GMT -5
You Oscar are just oppressing the human rights of Secui to identity themselves as Secui and not magyars. Secui are so much different, both in physical and social differences of Magyars. Just because, you as a Magyar wants to impose your language to Secui, this is not going to happen. And Oscar, for your information, nobody has to divide and separate you. You're already divided into Hungarian-speaking Romanians and Secui people. Both of the separated community speak almost a different language, have different culture, traditions, religion, etc. There are about two ethinicities here. Secui people have their own right to their ethnicity. You are wanting for Romanisation of a Hungarian people this is what natiolistic politicians like Funar want in Romania and I see you are actively involved in this quest maybe even you are involved in politics to do that also, WBB dont think Bonni is just the innocent kid type character that he could seem he is actually very obsessive nationalist a Romanian nationalist probably even extremist who has same mentality as Funar if Bonni had the power he would Romanise the entire Hungarian community in Erdely very quickly WBB dont be fooled Bonni is y very cunning and sneaky nationalist and I see that very clearly he is as I said a propergansist and political agent and believe me he supports you not because he is a muslim Im sure he is not he supports you because he is playing the very old political game of divide and rule. how can I impose their original language on them Bonni Szekely are the purest Magyars. Secui for me is not a real seperate ethnicity it just mean Szekely but if they themseles call themselves Secui and decide to deny their Hungarianess then my oppinion is plse stop calling yourself Secui and just calll yourself Romanian because Secui is just Romanised Hungarian word the the real meaning is Szekely. This comment proves to me you are some type of Romanian xenophobic politician in same mentality as Funar he tried to use these tactics to under represent the Hungarian population in Transylvania. The fact is majority of Szekely call themselves Szekely and speak Hungarian they are a stubborn minded people that can not be changed so easily. A Romanian from another forum told Me when he went to Haromszek there was many Szekely he met that couldnt even speak Romanian to me I thought it didnt sound right either but he said they all speaking Hungarian and even the few Romanians living there speaking Hungarian. Szekely are not so much different to Hungarians except they ahve been less affected by other more recent influences that went into Hungary for example influences that changed Hungarian language in Hungary whereas Szkely Hungarian didnt change as much and remain more closer to the times of Hungarians of Arpads times. Bonni you infact are the odd one out cause majority Szekely want autonomy but you wanna stop and suppress this so you are in fact the fascist.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Nov 13, 2007 5:25:22 GMT -5
I just don't like that Oscar to say bad things about you wbb. Wbb, are you destructive for Hungary as Oscar said? I dont believe you have any genuine support of WBB Bonni. I might not agree entirely with some of WBB ideas but it doesnt mean I am against him as a person as the man himself no I havnt met him and otherwise maybe we have some differing ideas but I didnt personally attack him in anyway and didnt mean to. Bonni as I said I dont berliev you support WBB at all your motivation for seeming to support him is only for one reason because you want to create division in Hungarian community I am completly right about that in fact WBB is nothing but a tool for you for you to create division and make Hungary weeak thgis is ultimatly what you want and yes Bonni I have exposed you once and for all and I am completly right about that idea I have no doubt.
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Post by superman on Nov 13, 2007 10:07:01 GMT -5
Oscar, I don't believe you, you may say everything you want I don't care. But the problem is you sound more and more not moderate but irredentistic. That's bad. You may be one of those behing Magyar Garda, who knows? You seem to support them and you never said that's bad for Hungary.
I know you would like me and wbb not to be buddies, but have you tried to get along with him? You just attacked him and me all the time, instead you should be more moderate and be more tollerant.
About Secui people, you don't know the realities from Romania. Actually you've never been in Romania so far. So, your opinion is not accurate and very strong bias. Secui people are already assimilated and they speak a different language, soon I've heard it will be lounched Google for Secui people. Then a dictionary Secui-Hungarians. That's the ultimate freedom of human rights. There are more than 850,000 Secui people.
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Post by wbb on Nov 14, 2007 3:44:56 GMT -5
Bonni not even magyar garda behave in a way that oski bacsi behaves, that's how aussies in australia behaves towards none aussies like me, chinese, arabs, indians. so Bonni u shouldnt be surprise that im going back to hungary in 4-5 months insha-allah cause i have been discriminated in australia too much that now i hates so much of being aussie or being integrated in bs aussie society, there's only one nation in the world where i can regard myself as hungarian and that is Hungary. yes bonni australia is a very very primitive country more worst than magyar garda, u have to be mafia or marry a mafia if u wanna live in australia, australia is a home for mafia habib, not for normal person like me. oh well im glad im going back, i had enough of those friken more than 15 years of misery and boring life in australia, im so upset to hear that my step mum and my step-sister wants to move in melbourne in january next year, they are from zuglo too and zuglo is a very good area compare to friken australia believe me bonni, but my step-sister is leaving all her good friends including her szekely friend behind to live in australia, well im not impressed with that, but i hope she will come back to hungary since she will realise that australia is worst than hungary.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Nov 14, 2007 6:13:16 GMT -5
and Oscar, wbb is one of the representative for the future of Hungary, he represents something, a reality that you try to hide. He is real, and his thoughts are real. he represent something in every country Bonni meaning that in every country probably in last 20 years there has been more converts to Islam but prportionatly I doubt Hungary is any different in this respect to any other Western country but its not likely Islam would become majority in those countries its just finding its way in percentages of population around the world. There are more Muslims in Romania than in Hungary Bonni always was I dont say this as bad thing I just stating you a fact.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Nov 14, 2007 6:43:35 GMT -5
Bonni not even magyar garda behave in a way that oski bacsi behaves, that's how aussies in australia behaves towards none aussies like me, chinese, arabs, indians. so Bonni u shouldnt be surprise that im going back to hungary in 4-5 months insha-allah cause i have been discriminated in australia too much that now i hates so much of being aussie or being integrated in bs aussie society, there's only one nation in the world where i can regard myself as hungarian and that is Hungary. yes bonni australia is a very very primitive country more worst than magyar garda, u have to be mafia or marry a mafia if u wanna live in australia, australia is a home for mafia habib, not for normal person like me. oh well im glad im going back, i had enough of those friken more than 15 years of misery and boring life in australia, im so upset to hear that my step mum and my step-sister wants to move in melbourne in january next year, they are from zuglo too and zuglo is a very good area compare to friken australia believe me bonni, but my step-sister is leaving all her good friends including her szekely friend behind to live in australia, well im not impressed with that, but i hope she will come back to hungary since she will realise that australia is worst than hungary. this has always been the problem the only problem I had with You WBB not that your a Muslim no not that your non Australian no, but you talk a lot of BS yes thats it . You dont know anything about me , for example just today I had lunch with my lebanese friend who is a muslim . As I have said before most of my friends I grew up with was from all different backgrounds, Chinese, Indian, Polynesian, European etc. So its BS the type of person you say I am that I treat you bad cause your this or that . As I said the only problem I ever had with you is you talk BS. I never had problem with anything Yeni said he is a muslim the religion makes no difference to me I dont judge by that I judge by how person behave. And from You WBB I see someone who makes up and invents stories about Hungary. Invents natioanlirties and dialect Magyaristaani that dont even exist excvept in your own mind. Even that dont bother me as you can think what you like but you come to the forum and say all these things publicly and create BS impression for other people who maybe dont know you are full of chit, you lying to not just and on behalf of Hungarians but also to other Muslims too. who know's what your problem is as there are many Muslims that look much more Arab than you do that love living in Australia. One of my University lecturers who is Arab from Africa told us Australia is one of best countries in the world and he is so happy to live here. I hope the MagyarGuarda have no problems with decent moderate Muslims as many Muslims are but MagyarGuarda might have some problems with people who talk lot of BS about Hungary.
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Post by wbb on Nov 14, 2007 10:22:02 GMT -5
mint mi pedalul? magyaristani torzrol? azt sem ertem hogy niyert nem hiszeg el amit mondtam neked? magyaristani ez az legy oreg magyar torzs a ozstesz dunyaban, wa megsze van le szerelva a nyelv mar tobb mint ezer eve, a te nagy apad Arpad ezt a nyelvet beszelt nem mint hulye mostani slavozasi-nemet-cigany magyar nyelv, tell me just 1 or 2 words for Hello in hungarian and i will tell u completely if it's hungarian or not, for example szervus and szia, it's isnt hungarian is it? both of them are saxon words, servus is german and szia is originate from "see ya" which is english, but salaam aleykum and merhaba is still not hungarian but that's the original words magyars use to say before when they were muslims, hungarian language is the only language in the world that hasnt have it's own word for hello, now what u say oski? szia and szervus had been established during the habsburg time, but before that what? szalam aleykum and merhaba no? or is it zdravo or buna ziua like the romanians? cmon man. it's already showin millions of time that the magyar christians are the only one that kept on changing the history by inventing fictional stories about our decendent like Finno-Ugric crap which has been invented no previous than 19th century, u wanna know the real history habib? iraq my friend, we decended from iraq and the middle east including the arabian peninsula, and yes we are semetic people because magyar is a semetic name, and many people around the world knows that even if many magyars like u are claiming to be finno-ugric, well read this short paragraph from wiki. Almásy is introduced as 'the English patient', but it is later revealed that he is Hungarian. Similarly, a song that he listens to, which Katharine assumes to be Arabic, turns out to be a Hungarian song: "My dajka sang it to me when I was a child growing up in Budapest".en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_English_Patient_%28film%29even katharine assumes that magyar language is arabic which is semetic, and there are many arabs i know that heard me speaking hungarian on the phone, guess what they ask me? isnt ur language is mixture of Turkish and arabic? i understand some words but other is confusing, did hungarians mixs turkish and arabic words that become hungarian language, and i said yes. cmon, my own mind? go to szentendrei sziget and see if u can find any magyaristanis there, i can easily find them for example Szigetmonostor which in magyaristani dialect is Szigetmecset, Kisorosi which in magyaristani is Kismecset, szentendrei sziget is the place where im actually gonna migrate to once i arrive in hungary. Szentendrei sziget which is in the middle of the duna will soon enough be a muslim majority island before budapest or bakonykuti or Szentendre or Kovaszna in Szekelyfold why? because we muslims are settling in that region by pitching up tents and making kids there before we buy or build houses there. so what is it gonna be? "the only muslim island in europe of the danube" or a magyar muszlim sziget? lol. magyar garda are favouring us muslims, cause we are the only loyal one towards hungary, and no they cant do just chit on us even when we make bs as u refered to.
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Post by superman on Nov 14, 2007 11:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by oszkarthehun on Nov 15, 2007 3:35:09 GMT -5
mint mi pedalul? magyaristani torzrol? azt sem ertem hogy niyert nem hiszeg el amit mondtam neked? magyaristani ez az legy oreg magyar torzs a ozstesz dunyaban, wa megsze van le szerelva a nyelv mar tobb mint ezer eve, a te nagy apad Arpad ezt a nyelvet beszelt nem mint hulye mostani slavozasi-nemet-cigany magyar nyelv, tell me just 1 or 2 words for Hello in hungarian and i will tell u completely if it's hungarian or not, for example szervus and szia, it's isnt hungarian is it? both of them are saxon words, servus is german and szia is originate from "see ya" which is english, but salaam aleykum and merhaba is still not hungarian but that's the original words magyars use to say before when they were muslims, hungarian language is the only language in the world that hasnt have it's own word for hello, now what u say oski? szia and szervus had been established during the habsburg time, but before that what? szalam aleykum and merhaba no? or is it zdravo or buna ziua like the romanians? cmon man. it's already showin millions of time that the magyar christians are the only one that kept on changing the history by inventing fictional stories about our decendent like Finno-Ugric crap which has been invented no previous than 19th century, u wanna know the real history habib? iraq my friend, we decended from iraq and the middle east including the arabian peninsula, and yes we are semetic people because magyar is a semetic name, and many people around the world knows that even if many magyars like u are claiming to be finno-ugric, well read this short paragraph from wiki. Almásy is introduced as 'the English patient', but it is later revealed that he is Hungarian. Similarly, a song that he listens to, which Katharine assumes to be Arabic, turns out to be a Hungarian song: "My dajka sang it to me when I was a child growing up in Budapest".en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_English_Patient_%28film%29even katharine assumes that magyar language is arabic which is semetic, and there are many arabs i know that heard me speaking hungarian on the phone, guess what they ask me? isnt ur language is mixture of Turkish and arabic? i understand some words but other is confusing, did hungarians mixs turkish and arabic words that become hungarian language, and i said yes. cmon, my own mind? go to szentendrei sziget and see if u can find any magyaristanis there, i can easily find them for example Szigetmonostor which in magyaristani dialect is Szigetmecset, Kisorosi which in magyaristani is Kismecset, szentendrei sziget is the place where im actually gonna migrate to once i arrive in hungary. Szentendrei sziget which is in the middle of the duna will soon enough be a muslim majority island before budapest or bakonykuti or Szentendre or Kovaszna in Szekelyfold why? because we muslims are settling in that region by pitching up tents and making kids there before we buy or build houses there. so what is it gonna be? "the only muslim island in europe of the danube" or a magyar muszlim sziget? lol. magyar garda are favouring us muslims, cause we are the only loyal one towards hungary, and no they cant do just chit on us even when we make bs as u refered to. I understand what you said and what you mean about Magyaristani and about Saxon and Slavic influence but what you do WBB is you reinvent in your own mix of words what you call Mgyaristani or if you wanna say you dont and that is from a historical text of archaic Hungarian then plse show me the sources and the evidence, plse show me the sources and the evidence that Hungarians said Merhaba and Salam Aylaykem before they said Szervusz vagy Szia. Maybe some of them had to say those words when they was under Ottoman rule but plse prove to me in the conquest period that they ever said those words. Its always the same thing you make grand statement but you can never back it up with any real evidence. Yes maybe some of those Kabar tribes that travelled with the Magyars was Muslims but its also possible some was Jews as there have been Kabar gravesites found with Jewish artefacts. The Hungarians didnt care what religion anybody was in those times the majority Hungarians had their own religion that I have shown before and it wasnt Islam like you wanna tell evreybody like you wanna believe. Hungarians was already exposed to a few different religions by the time they entered Karpat medenc including Christianity, Judaism, and Islam there is no evidence they was majority in any of those religion but rather they had their own religion untill adoption of Christianity this is the facts the MagyarGuarda if they know Hungarian history will tell you the same any Hungarian will tell you the same you are the one who wanna believe and want everybody else to believe something different. Hungarian is an old language I doubt its semetic as they are not agglutinitive as far as I know and Sumerian wasnt considered Semetic as far as I know either, if you really listen to Arabic or Jewish it dont sound so close to Hungarian. there are words in other languages that do sound close to Hungarian for example the Hungarian word for small = kicsi is simiuliar to both the Persian and Turkic word for small they are both something like kishi. also the Hungarian words " who is it" = ki ez is similiar to in Persian ki e', the Hungarian word for always = Mindig, a bit similiar to the Armenian word always = Mindsh. The Turkic and Persian influence is no suprise as Hungarians were close to and assimilated both but there is no close Arabic connection except for perhaps a few words that may have been passed through by Ottoman Turks who had absorbed some Arabic but even English and many European languages has some Arab words. The Fiino-Ugric is probably the wrong term as Hungarian is partially closer to the Uralic but as to how it is related is more the question as even in that case the relationship is very distant but I wouldnt deny it completly, still many Hungarian words are of unknown origin attesting to fact its very old language maybe even possibly a prelanguage to some other languages as suggested in Ural-Altaic theory. Again you talk in riddles whn you have no real proof for what the fak u talkin about, what the fak u mean by Magyaristani in Szentendre are you talking about Hungarian Muslim converts ? are you talking about Hungarian Muslims from foreign parents eg Bosnians,Arabs, Sudanes ? or you still pretend there is some historical clan that always lived in Hungary that had a continuity of some Hungarian-Turkic-Arab language that hasnt been documented or nobody knows about but you... as I said you talk BS. There is a Hungarian people and dialect called Paloc, some people believe Paloc was from some type of Turkic like Kuns or Petcheneg/Besenyo or something but as far as any history can show they always spoike Hungarian and if they was ever any different they been well integrated for hundreds years , but you didnt even mention Paloc but even still I dont think is any more Turkic words in their language than other Hungarian dialect that is same for Szekely . Hungarian scholar in the 16th century said if you wanna see the very pure Hungarian listen to the Szekely but even Szekely dont have more Turkic words than other Hungarian and Szekely has been less affected by linguistic influences on Hungarian language. [/quote] I am not one of there members but I doubt they would be supporting Islamic republic of Hungary like you do I think if you wanna mention that idea to them in a serious way make sure you are far away from them. Magyar Guarda say they wanna protect and maintain Hungarian culture that means thgey dont wanna overinfluence from Western or absolute Eastern population influx they wanna maintain Hungarian culture as it has been established in last 1000 years in Karpat medenc , erted.
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Post by wbb on Nov 15, 2007 6:00:30 GMT -5
oski bacsi we been practising our own dialect for very long period of time, habib olyan magyar beszelek hogy egy darab magyar nem erti egyem, el hiszeg? mert az en nyelvjarasam ez nem madraszaban tanultam ha nem az apamtol tanultam erted, az en nagyapam isz beszelt magyaristanul, az en nagy-nagy-nagy-nagy apam isz beszelt magyaristanul mert az en csaladom nem volt olyan hogy asszimilasz a macsik nyelvre mint a tobbi magyarok mint szekely vagy palocs, mert szekely es a palocsi nyelvjarasz le van isz mar cserelve tobb mint 300 eve ezelot,
magyarok mindig montad ezt a szot mi elot a kurva saxon habsburgi terroristak be jottek magyarorszagban.
magyarok isz voltak muszlim nem csak a karbari torzs es nagyan risztan volt yahudi nepek a magyar torzsban, a yahudi nepek be jottek magyarorszagban kerubelu az Oszman birodalom ideyen, akkor volt olyan szokkan akit bevandoroltak be a magyarorszagban, minden mostani yahudi nepek ez mind Andeloszbol jottek igen, Andelosz ami mostani Spanyolorszag, a muzsulman ez megy mar reg volta be jottek magyarorszagban a Khan Arpaddal.
csak az egy monosteiszta valasz volt es van most a dunyaban, Iszlam es szemmi masz, az Adam es Eva isz voltak muszlim, a Musza isz, a Yakab isz, a Izrail isz, a Noah isz, es a Jezsus isz, igen Jezsus volt muszlim mi elot a yahudi meg olte ot, mikor Allah meg csinalta ez oztesz dunyat, csak egy valasz volt es ez Islam, utana az ember csinalta a uj valaszt, Zsudaismusz, Kereszteny, Hindu, Buddizsmus, Shamaniszta, polyteiszta, pagoni, meg mit tudom mi, de Iszlam volt az egy valaszt. ezt el hiszeg.
igen es a legy oreg nyelv a szemita nyelv.
igen, magyarisztanul isz van ki ez and kicsi, a magyarisztani nyeljarasz tobb mint 3 csalad nyelv van benne, Turkic, Persian, Semetic.
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Post by superman on Nov 15, 2007 11:19:42 GMT -5
wbb I just want to see the first dictionary of magyar-magyarisztan that would be a very good day for me, and I hope one trilingual as well magyar-magyarisztan-secui ;D
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Post by yeni on Nov 15, 2007 12:39:00 GMT -5
Ok i see its time for martial law and to ethnically cleanse the 'magyarisztani ppl', as WBB and super boni man are constantly ruining the Hun forum, i will close and transfer every new topic about them and made by them and automatically delete every new post of WBB where the words 'islam', 'muslim', 'Allah', or 'magyarisztani' are included. wbb there is a subforum for islamic world and another for religion and i recommend you to ask Aadmin to give you a special forum similar to Bonnies dominion where you can post your fantasy stuff. If you don't like it, you can complain to Aadmin or the Amnesty International.
Köszi, multumesc, shukran, teºekkürler.
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