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Post by terroreign on May 20, 2008 15:07:10 GMT -5
Good documentary, shows the facts of the pre-independence Montenegro without the bias and mistruths
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Post by radovic on May 20, 2008 22:50:24 GMT -5
^ Propaganda. Even the immensely pro-independence Liberal Alliance of Montenegro criticized Djukanovic for claiming that a war would occur with Milosevic.
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Post by terroreign on May 20, 2008 23:44:26 GMT -5
^lol
You are a laugh-riot, I think you spew more propoganda than any media-service could (even foxnews LOL)
Did you watch the part in the northern serb village? The serb says (in english) "If it comes down to independence, we will use guns(we will shoot)"
Then not to mention the milosevic supporters raiding the presidential office with AK's
You're so oblivious
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Post by radovic on May 21, 2008 8:00:45 GMT -5
^lol You are a laugh-riot, I think you spew more propoganda than any media-service could (even foxnews LOL) Did you watch the part in the northern serb village? The serb says (in english) "If it comes down to independence, we will use guns(we will shoot)" Then not to mention the milosevic supporters raiding the presidential office with AK's You're so oblivious Lol. Are you even aware that the main destabilizing force in Montenegro in the late 90s was the Montenegrin republican police.
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Post by terroreign on May 23, 2008 3:22:40 GMT -5
No, the main destabilizing force were supporters of the milosevic-regime in montenegro
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Post by Anthologic on May 23, 2008 16:28:30 GMT -5
But you wouldn't know, you weren't there. So why would anyone be inclined to believe you?
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Post by terroreign on May 23, 2008 17:14:29 GMT -5
Watch the documentary, according to it Milosevic-regime supporters were destabilizers of the region.
I'm not saying what I think, or what I wish, just what's there...
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Post by radovic on May 23, 2008 19:29:52 GMT -5
No, the main destabilizing force were supporters of the milosevic-regime in montenegro The Montenegrin police numbeed some 25,000-35,000 in the late 90s (for a population of less then 650,000) while the army at most had only 10,000 troops in Montenegro (with most of them - 70% -- being from Montenegro). In addition to that the Montenegrin authoritities illegally received weapons and supplies from the west superior to those the VJ had and most of these were distributed to a group of Brdjani in Cetinje called COP. Furthermore, the very people in power in Montenegro now and then were the biggest supporters of Milosevic after Kosovo Serbs until a dispute over cigarette smuggling profits.In fact the COP were a bigger threat then VJ ever was to Montenegro. They actively attacked VJ on one occasion during the bombing, and they attacked Montenegrin authorities on several occasions for not pursuing radical enough policies or when the Montenegrin police tried to disarm them.
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Post by terroreign on May 23, 2008 20:46:08 GMT -5
Stupid statement with nothing to back it up.
All of your numbers and percentages have no merit until your provide evidence.
I'm going by the documentary and logic, which states that the police force was formed after hostilities from the milosevic-regime, which denied montenegrin-independence
And the JNA btw dominated the montenegrin police force, no matter how many montenegrins were leaving it.
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Post by radovic on May 23, 2008 21:05:41 GMT -5
Stupid statement with nothing to back it up. All of your numbers and percentages have no merit until your provide evidence. I'm going by the documentary and logic, which states that the police force was formed after hostilities from the milosevic-regime, which denied montenegrin-independence And the JNA btw dominated the montenegrin police force, no matter how many montenegrins were leaving it. The Montenegrin police force was under the direct control of the Montenegrin authorities. The Montenegrin police force was under republican jurisdiction. Furthermore. Milosevic couldn't deny Montenegrin-independence since: - Montenegro was not independent and was part of FRY. - Montenegro voted to be part of the union of FRY. - Montenegro made no independence declaration or referendum.
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Post by terroreign on May 23, 2008 21:39:14 GMT -5
I did not mean it that way, and you know it.
I meant it had pro-independence leanings, and additionally because of the fact Milo Djukanovic refused to denounce the NATO bombings
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Post by radovic on May 24, 2008 9:22:48 GMT -5
I did not mean it that way, and you know it. I meant it had pro-independence leanings, and additionally because of the fact Milo Djukanovic refused to denounce the NATO bombings Yet, Milosevic did nothing to directoly attack these pro-independence leanings. All he did was condemn it. And the fact that Djukanovic supported NATO bombings -- which themselves were not supported by Montenegrin and which bombed Montenegro also -- means that he should have been tried for treason after Oct 5.
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Post by terroreign on May 25, 2008 17:07:00 GMT -5
Djukanovic didnt support the bombings, he didn't denounce them, theres a difference.
Treason?? lol Milosevic should have been tried for genocide, wait he was wasn't he?? LOL
Milosevic was the aggressor and Djukanovic did what he had to to protect Montenegro's interests (Independence) and prevent war.
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Post by vinjak on May 25, 2008 18:01:28 GMT -5
All I can say is Thank God there was no War between us...... Apart from Siptar inspired Montes I still consider Crnogorci Brothers, and I dont care about backgrounds and such, We are Brothers and Allies................
However if the Government bows to US and Siptar pressure and recognizes the fake state then I personaly would consider this as a betrayal and all ties and relations should be broken off.
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Post by terroreign on May 25, 2008 18:46:49 GMT -5
Crnogorci - One word
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Post by vinjak on May 25, 2008 18:54:13 GMT -5
Hehehehe al si brz. ;D
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Post by terroreign on May 25, 2008 19:03:08 GMT -5
;D
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Post by radovic on May 26, 2008 10:25:19 GMT -5
Djukanovic didnt support the bombings, he didn't denounce them, theres a difference. Treason?? lol Milosevic should have been tried for genocide, wait he was wasn't he?? LOL Milosevic was the aggressor and Djukanovic did what he had to to protect Montenegro's interests (Independence) and prevent war. Djukanovic supported the bombings. He openly declared he would allow NATO to use the Bar port, rail lines in Montenegro, Montenegrin airspace for it's operations. He also said that he wanted Montenegro to join NATO. Unless you are a shiqptar called terroreign this is clear that he supported NATO. Do you even know what treason is? When was Milosevic tried to genocide? The Hague dropped all charges related to Bosnia & Croatia, these chargese as well as does for Kosovo didn't mention genocide. In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one's sovereign or nation. Using this definition your hero Djukanovic did commit treason. How exactly was Milosevic the agressor: - He was not attyacking a seperate country. - Montenegro was part of his country. - Djukanovic at the time was calling for "more autonomy" not independence. - Djukanovic supported Milosevic's actions until the bombing began. How was Djukanovic preventing war: - He supported Milosevic's actions in Kosovo. - He himself opposed all peace efforts, as confirmed by Italian analyst and former diplomat d'Alema.
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Post by terroreign on May 27, 2008 19:55:54 GMT -5
He never publicly supported the bombings, stop your trash.
And stop trying to defend milosevic you chetnik, you're a lost cause....
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Post by radovic on May 27, 2008 20:12:49 GMT -5
He never publicly supported the bombings, stop your trash. And stop trying to defend milosevic you chetnik, you're a lost cause.... Lol. I'm just stating the facts. Clearly it angers you that what I've said is the truth.
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