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Post by Duke John on May 25, 2008 5:56:16 GMT -5
It has already started, not even 500 years, sooner ;D.
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Post by yahadj on May 25, 2008 7:45:12 GMT -5
So you were there and know, as always. No comment. Then why don't you become a Buddist and live your life... Is somebody forcing you to believe in monotheistic Abrahamic religions? BTW who told you that Buddhism is theistic religion. What is the name of their God? Buddhism can better be described as phylosophy rather than religion. Their theachings are based on the belief that everything- the reality is illusion, so don't care about those worldly issued and then you achieve enlightment!!! Go and enjoy that! Let me tell you. The greatest misery is to die without believe or believe in polytheism... The religions are not responsible for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the second World war, for the Jewish Holocaust, for Stalin's or China's monstrocities, Vientnam or Native Indians' massacres... Wake up! Don't talk with cliches. The greedy and selfish humans are responsible for the wars and the misery. And that will always be the same...Islam is perfect but followers are not. PEACE
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 25, 2008 8:46:47 GMT -5
I don't feel intimidated - why should I? As long as I live my life as a good person I need not fear hell. Its only those that have skeletons in their cupboards that should feel intimidated.
BTW as Yahac said nobody is forcing u to believe in anything. This subject is about sex and religion and I think u will find Islam is quite easy going and pro womens sexuality compared to other religions that only use sex for pro creation.
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Post by jerryspringer on May 25, 2008 12:08:12 GMT -5
Islam is an organized religion which, at times, has spread its word with the sword. You people turn to that establishment, and therefore you should count your religion as accountable for the crimes that your establishment has committed.
Why I don't become a Buddist is irrelevant, since you asked me to give you examples of religions that don't condemn to hellfire. If you can't debate as a doctor would, or even as a normal person would, then perhaps you should take a hike.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 25, 2008 14:04:31 GMT -5
Since day began people killed each other for what they believed in - especially if they were attacked, as self defence. Therefore human kind is responsible for every murder on this earth. If we go according to your logic.
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Post by vinjak on May 25, 2008 18:36:47 GMT -5
Personaly I believe in God I will not attend any church as I believe all organised religion is corrupted by man..I keep my belief to myself and never ever try to convince others of my belief.
As far as Sex goes, it is my belief that it is to be respected as a gift, how miserable would life be without it, the attraction a man feels for a woman and visa versa is one of the miracles of life and should never be abused. The one thing that I belive is that the so called spokespeople of god have brainwashed societys to believe it is somehow a sin unless married and that its dirty etc that to me is ridiculous and only succeded in pushing it underground where others have exploited it. Sex should be between consulting adults, and the only restrictions should be set by the individuals themselves.
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Post by yahadj on May 26, 2008 2:41:15 GMT -5
Cliches, cliches and again cliches. At least once be original and unique bre Anittas. But how can you? I don't blame you.
Don't even start with that one. Then somebody would start with your Crusader swords. Your swords didn't even give innocent civilians a chance to live not to mention about any chance of conversion... Crusaders reported back to the Pope with pride and joy that they were victorious riding their horses in the rivers of blood of innocent civilians up to their knees... What a pride... Phee...
PEACE
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Post by yahadj on May 26, 2008 2:44:04 GMT -5
So your "God" allows all the sins forbiden by the Abrahamic religions? Wow! Well, did you know that the religion of yours is called Satanism...
PEACE
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Post by jerryspringer on May 26, 2008 9:27:09 GMT -5
Yahac, you're right: compared to you, I'm not original. The only chance I have to compete with you is by writing a screenplay about a retard who cries all day to his God, condemns others to Hell, and calls their beliefs for being Satanic.
As for the Crusaders, they are your type of people. I don't know if you've ever heard of Greek Orthodox, but that's what Romanians belong to: and we didn't report to the Pope. The alliance that we had with the Pope wasn't until late 15th century--and there were no crusades back then.
Yahac, you are a retard. You don't know the history of your own people. Begone, filth!
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Post by vinjak on May 26, 2008 19:39:32 GMT -5
Yahac
Wow how quick you are to label me which proves my point of how brainwashed people are in organised religions.
I live my life according to my heart I do not deliberatley hurt people,I live and let live,I do not judge people,I do not steal etc
I believe in one god (so he is not just my god) I will never force my beliefs on anyone, everyperson is given a sense of right and wrong and everyone has a purpose in life which has been designated by God ........ My purpose is probably way different to yours and we each have a path to follow how we get there and the choices we make to get there is left to us. Every choice we make in life affects many and thus changes the world.
Sex is something amazing and as I said before is a gift as long as its consensual and not harming either person then the gift should be used whenever and wherever.
If we F^%$ed more I bet the world would be more peaceful.
As I said before I wont ever push my veiws or belief on anyone and with this post I aint trying to persuade you or anyone it is how my heart and soul guides me to live. I bow to no man,statue,relic,symbol,building, no matter how many try to convince me that this or that is representing God or Gods house etc because to me it is a man made thing...oh it might have been created/built with the best intentions but it matters not to me,I will only ever bow to my God and it may suprise you but I do pray, not for favour or gain but of thanks.
Now if you see fit to judge me and my belief as Satanic then that is your opinion but I really think you have no authority to judge anyone.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 27, 2008 9:35:53 GMT -5
YAHAC U CANNOT JUDGE ANYONE IN ISLAM.
u r acting like a fanatical FETULLAH GULEN FOLLOWER (which im sure u are) STOP!!!
SATANISM, BY THE WAY, IS WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL.
Fethullah Gulen is brainwashing people left right and centre.... don't people have their own brains to think and decide with.
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Post by vanilo on May 27, 2008 9:58:24 GMT -5
No matter what you believe in - or don't believe in - I think it's sucky to be an extremist and judgemental in your beliefs. Doesn't matter if you're Muslim, Christian or an Atheists...if you're a hateful extremist in whatever you believe in you suck just as much as the one you point fingers at and call extremist.
In the end, I think most of us are of the opinion that religion is a personal matter other people just need to get their noses out of. No one can say it's better to have a religion or it's better to not have one. I'd feel very empty and confused about my existance if I had no belief or answer to what the hell the point of living, and being good in life, is. How can anyone tell me that I need to not have a religion because it'll make me happier and a better person? That's basically what you do when you tell someone the world would better if such and such...
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Post by SKORIC on May 27, 2008 10:01:40 GMT -5
Yahac Wow how quick you are to label me which proves my point of how brainwashed people are in organised religions. I live my life according to my heart I do not deliberatley hurt people,I live and let live,I do not judge people,I do not steal etc I believe in one god (so he is not just my god) I will never force my beliefs on anyone, everyperson is given a sense of right and wrong and everyone has a purpose in life which has been designated by God ........ My purpose is probably way different to yours and we each have a path to follow how we get there and the choices we make to get there is left to us. Every choice we make in life affects many and thus changes the world. Sex is something amazing and as I said before is a gift as long as its consensual and not harming either person then the gift should be used whenever and wherever. If we F^%$ed more I bet the world would be more peaceful. As I said before I wont ever push my veiws or belief on anyone and with this post I aint trying to persuade you or anyone it is how my heart and soul guides me to live. I bow to no man,statue,relic,symbol,building, no matter how many try to convince me that this or that is representing God or Gods house etc because to me it is a man made thing...oh it might have been created/built with the best intentions but it matters not to me,I will only ever bow to my God and it may suprise you but I do pray, not for favour or gain but of thanks. Now if you see fit to judge me and my belief as Satanic then that is your opinion but I really think you have no authority to judge anyone. Indeed if everyone was having more sex then less people would be judging others like yahac just did. Less people would be comdemning others to hell and worrying about other people disobeying their man-corrupted religions. And i agree with you that the church is corrupted by man. I only go to church for christening/weddings/funerals.
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Post by jerryspringer on May 27, 2008 10:36:55 GMT -5
Yeah, you're right: people are afraid of being good, unless there's an award coming for them.
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Post by vanilo on May 27, 2008 12:20:02 GMT -5
You're twisting my words, Anittas . It has nothing to do with fear, I never mentioned anything about it .
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Post by jerryspringer on May 27, 2008 16:29:09 GMT -5
Check what Zoroastranism says about altruism. That's the religion you should belong to, anyways.
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Post by Mimi on May 27, 2008 17:32:30 GMT -5
There's no crime in a woman wanting to experience all the good things in life, and feel attractive and sexy - not at all. It's human nature to want attention and recognition for who one are, what one looks like, what one does, what one accomplishes etc. But personally, I think a woman must have extremely low self-esteem and perception on her self-worth if "goodies in life" and "feeling sexy" is something she gets out of men who percieve her as a pair of breasts and a vagina. Exactly, i so agree with you. great post i just dont see any fault for a woman to be intelligent, smart, powerful, successful and at the same time look sexy and noticeable who enjoys attention but she also has to know how to dress as well, depending where she is going. she cant for exampel wear sexy clothes in a office if she wants to be taken seriously.
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Post by yahadj on May 27, 2008 22:47:10 GMT -5
Yahac Wow how quick you are to label me which proves my point of how brainwashed people are in organised religions. I live my life according to my heart I do not deliberatley hurt people,I live and let live,I do not judge people,I do not steal etc I believe in one god (so he is not just my god) I will never force my beliefs on anyone, everyperson is given a sense of right and wrong and everyone has a purpose in life which has been designated by God ........ My purpose is probably way different to yours and we each have a path to follow how we get there and the choices we make to get there is left to us. Every choice we make in life affects many and thus changes the world. Sex is something amazing and as I said before is a gift as long as its consensual and not harming either person then the gift should be used whenever and wherever. If we F^%$ed more I bet the world would be more peaceful. As I said before I wont ever push my veiws or belief on anyone and with this post I aint trying to persuade you or anyone it is how my heart and soul guides me to live. I bow to no man,statue,relic,symbol,building, no matter how many try to convince me that this or that is representing God or Gods house etc because to me it is a man made thing...oh it might have been created/built with the best intentions but it matters not to me,I will only ever bow to my God and it may suprise you but I do pray, not for favour or gain but of thanks. Now if you see fit to judge me and my belief as Satanic then that is your opinion but I really think you have no authority to judge anyone. I really liked the most important part of your belief, which is bow no to any man or anything created. Bow only to Almighty God. Also praying for thanking God. We really think the same on these most important issues. But you have to accept that if there was a God it wouldn't let His creations down, too. That all Loving and Caring God would let his creations know about the definition of good and bad so they can thank him better by living better way of life... And he did in numerous occasions. That is why have the Holy scriptures. They tell us about what is good and what is bad. Guess what, adultery is as an important sin as stealing and killing. Because if you pratice it eventually the life of an inniocent baby would be hurt sometimes fataly. This has been proven so many times. Read Qur'an and you will see what wisdom and blessing the One and Only God of all Worlds - Allah, has given us. Elhamdulillah! I appologize if I hurt you before. You seem to have pure soul. May Allah forgive me if I have sinned towards you! PEACE
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Post by yahadj on May 27, 2008 22:57:02 GMT -5
YAHAC U CANNOT JUDGE ANYONE IN ISLAM. u r acting like a fanatical FETULLAH GULEN FOLLOWER (which im sure u are) STOP!!! SATANISM, BY THE WAY, IS WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL. Fethullah Gulen is brainwashing people left right and centre.... don't people have their own brains to think and decide with. Fethullah would be last person I would like to be associated with. Hashaa. Don't talk without knowing. I thought you were giving me a lesson regarding "judging others"?!? You surely ridiculed yourself!!! ;D By the way who are you to decide who to shut up and who to talk. Grow up lady... This is free internet. Bring good arguments. In Islam and in any other Abrahamic religion, sex can only be justified within a marriage, I you know it. But some people take religion as simple hobby, only in the free time. No problme with that. Everybody would get whatever he/she earns... PEACE
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Post by yahadj on May 27, 2008 23:01:10 GMT -5
Who take somebody seriously if he/she chooses to show off his/her body instead of his/her brains. That would only water the mouths of a bunch of losers. Sucess by sexiness would take you only to the bed of somebody...
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