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Post by terroreign on Apr 21, 2008 5:28:20 GMT -5
My cousin's friend killed a rapist and murderer (the man murdered and raped his sister)
As such it was a vendetta, and he got 4 years. Perhaps due to the fact the man was a rapist and criminal?
And from what I heard of Lausevic's case, he wasn't in jail for even a year, in court he was claimed innocent on accounts of self-defense and let go.
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Post by radovic on Apr 21, 2008 10:25:02 GMT -5
^ Then you have a very broad definition of what a vendetta is.
Until your cousins friend is murdered I wouldn't consider it a vendetta. A vendetta has to be a series of murders between two families. So until a third murder occurs, it's not a vendetta.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 21, 2008 10:29:05 GMT -5
^Look up the meaning of vendetta, and theres no rule about a 3rd killing you buffoon
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Post by radovic on Apr 21, 2008 10:33:03 GMT -5
^Look up the meaning of vendetta, and theres no rule about a 3rd killing you buffoon A feud (pronounced /ˈfjuːd/) (referred to in more extreme cases as a blood feud or vendetta) is a long-running argument or fight between parties—often, through guilt by association, groups of people, especially families or clans. Feuds tend to begin because one party (correctly or incorrectly) perceives itself to have been attacked, insulted or wronged by another. A long-running cycle of retaliation, often involving the original parties' family members and/or associates, then ensues. Feuds can last for generations. 2 murders meet none of the criteria. 2 deaths are not a series and are not cyclical.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 21, 2008 10:35:22 GMT -5
A loose definition of feud can also be between two individuals.
Besides that fact, a vendetta is specifically an act between 2 individuals, involving a third(The one initially killed to commence the vendetta).
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Post by radovic on Apr 21, 2008 11:41:25 GMT -5
A loose definition of feud can also be between two individuals. Besides that fact, a vendetta is specifically an act between 2 individuals, involving a third(The one initially killed to commence the vendetta). A vendetta is a series of cyclical killings between two parties. In the case you listed only 2 have been killed, and it's not cyclical. Until someone from your cousins friends family is killed from parties involved, it is not a vendetta.
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Post by zgembo on Apr 21, 2008 12:30:12 GMT -5
Radovic is right. Merely killing someone in revenge doesn't qualify as a vendetta. If it did, the vendetta would exist in every country in the world.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Apr 21, 2008 13:31:43 GMT -5
Albanians do commit alot of crimes in SWE, they are not respected here at all, thats what i hear from majority of swedees... They ussually hang in groups and beats up blond little swedees and then they take their mobile phones Thats a classic.. If a mobile phone is stolen when ur class has gym class then its probably a albanian involved They also do alot of rap music in their basments, about how hard it is to live in the "gettos" of sweden :/ HAHAAHA pathetic
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Post by radovic on Apr 22, 2008 10:32:35 GMT -5
Radovic is right. Merely killing someone in revenge doesn't qualify as a vendetta. If it did, the vendetta would exist in every country in the world. I don't think terroreign get's this. He's been making these retarded vendetta claims in order to proof some non-existant "Albanianess" of Montenegrins.
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Post by Pejoni on Apr 22, 2008 10:50:12 GMT -5
Albanians do commit alot of crimes in SWE, they are not respected here at all, thats what i hear from majority of swedees... They ussually hang in groups and beats up blond little swedees and then they take their mobile phones Thats a classic.. If a mobile phone is stolen when ur class has gym class then its probably a albanian involved They also do alot of rap music in their basments, about how hard it is to live in the "gettos" of sweden :/ HAHAAHA pathetic Have u been a victim?
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Apr 22, 2008 12:17:34 GMT -5
Albanians do commit alot of crimes in SWE, they are not respected here at all, thats what i hear from majority of swedees... They ussually hang in groups and beats up blond little swedees and then they take their mobile phones Thats a classic.. If a mobile phone is stolen when ur class has gym class then its probably a albanian involved They also do alot of rap music in their basments, about how hard it is to live in the "gettos" of sweden :/ HAHAAHA pathetic Have u been a victim? Nop... But judging from what ive heard and seen there are alot of albanians commiting those things, no offcourse there are normal like everyone else.... But still... Just look at youtube, how many rap songs is there about kill the police bla bla bla.... On the other hand serbs in SWE are more big time criminals wich i dont see up to at all.. And one sicko who killed Anna Lind... Croats are quite calm Bosniaks here do lods f ciggaretes and stuff... So basicly we Balkanians arent such calm people when it comes to crime
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Post by terroreign on Apr 22, 2008 12:27:29 GMT -5
Radovic is right. Merely killing someone in revenge doesn't qualify as a vendetta. If it did, the vendetta would exist in every country in the world. And they do. Just not often... A vendetta is a singular act, a revenge murder. Blood feud is indeed a seperate term. Quite the opposite, in fact it's the "Montenegriness" of the Albanians, since in the balkans Vendetta killings were and are a cultural law of the land (Crnogorska Zakletva). There are many books regarding this issue and the history of it within the Montenegrin people.
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Post by radovic on Apr 22, 2008 13:08:46 GMT -5
A vendetta and a blood feud are the same thing.
A vendetta and blood feud involves a family. A revenge murder does not have to involve families.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 22, 2008 14:24:38 GMT -5
^^I dont know where you live, in America those are not the same.
Blood feud must involve families, Vendettas can but don't have to.
Not only that by your own logic I'm right, since all of the 'vendettas' shown involve a revenging of a murdered family member, not a friend or stranger.
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