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Post by c0gnate on Dec 12, 2007 12:34:17 GMT -5
Kosovo was the heartland of Serbian medieval Empire while it was at its peak (in the 13th-14th centuries). That Empire and that dynasty are the foundations upon which the modern Serbian national identity is built. With all due respect, Mapko, the Serbian empire lasted only nine years, from 1346 to 1355. There was no empire before that, or after. Dushan the Mighty proclaimed himself emperor of the Serbs and Romaioi, but no other power, secular or religious, recognized him as such. Not the Patriarch in Constantinople, not the Pope, not the Magyars, not the Ottomans, not the Austrians, the Venetians, the French or the English. On Dushan's death in 1355 the empire disintegrated in internecine fighting. Sixteen years later at Maritsa, the dominant Serb faction suffered the first of a series of defeats at the hands of the Ottomans that a few years later included the famous battle at Kosovo. It's true that in addition to Knez Lazar's Serbs, the Christian side at the battle of Kosovo in 1389 included Albanians, Magyars, Bulgarians and Vlachs (sent from Wallachia, now part of modern Romania). I realize that if you asked the average Serb, one you might run into in the street, about the Serbian Empire, he will say that it lasted a couple of centuries, but that's a myth.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Dec 12, 2007 15:56:10 GMT -5
"Kosovo has always been a majority Albanian"Imas li ti neki link sa popisom iz recimo 1830. ili 1328. godine? "In 1389 war Serbs, Albanians fought against a common enemy Turks. This is what Serb historians missed."Ako si slusao narodnu guslarsku pesmu "Boj na Kosovom Polju" cuo bi da se pominje Kapetan Leka. "Since Serbs took over the Kosovo (after WW2)"Srbi su (ponovo) uzeli (vratili) Kosovo (i Metohiju) posle prvog Svetskog Rata a ne drugog. "This myth did exist in Serbian history books and songs as a once upon a time story, but did not have a significant meaning until Milosevic made it significant in 1981."Kosovo i Metohija su duhovni i verski centar Srba. Tokom komunizma (1945-1980) vera je bila tako reci zabranjena pa su Kosovo i Metohija sa svojim crkvama i manastirima bili zapostavljeni. Ako si citao na primer Njegosa (a trebao bi ako si isao u osnovnu skolu, zakljucujem posto si sluzio JNA) znao bi sta Kosovo i Metohija znaci za Srbe. + Milosevic je 1981. godine bio samo clan Komunisticke Partije. 1984 je postao predsenik komunisticke Partije za okrug Beograda. 1987 postaje predsenik KP Srbije. "At that time (WW1) the first contact any Albanian made with Serbs would result in a killing, that's how it was, so they had no choice but run for their lives into Kosovo, which in turn increased the number of Albanians to make it a proportional 9:1."To je verovatno zato sto su Srbi zli i zaboravili su kako su im Albanci bacali cvece kad su se povlacili preko Albanije. I jos dva pitanja. Kako se na Albanskom kaze ptica kos (blackbird)? Da li znas sta znaci rec metohija? Hvala unapred na odgovorima
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Post by c0gnate on Dec 12, 2007 16:07:59 GMT -5
"Dushan the Mighty proclaimed himself emperor of the Serbs and Romaioi"Dusan je bio Car Srba i Grka a ne Srba i Rumuna (ma sta znacilo Romaioi) Dusan was Emperor of Serbs and Greeks not Serbs and "Romaioi". Why don't you try typing "Romaioi" into Google, good buddy.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Dec 12, 2007 16:10:40 GMT -5
"Dushan the Mighty proclaimed himself emperor of the Serbs and Romaioi"Dusan je bio Car Srba i Grka a ne Srba i Rumuna (ma sta znacilo Romaioi) Dusan was Emperor of Serbs and Greeks not Serbs and "Romaioi". Why don't you try typing "Romaioi" into Google, good buddy. I have checked it, my bad. You are right.....sorry. (I will edit my post above).
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