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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2018 11:47:15 GMT -5
who said bagpipes ..?? Albs use to play way back but they didn't do a good job of handing it down plus
the technique of making them from lamb or pig .....gajde
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2018 11:25:05 GMT -5
or maybe better to say its not Mediterranean like sounding
What is it then? both ....slavic singing is not natural to the Mediterranean area ....
it's worse than that dreaded turbo-folk crap I cant stand
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2018 11:15:27 GMT -5
it just dont flow with the habitat of the lands pyrros ....you know exactly what I am trying to say
Pyrros ...OP OP OP ....goose bump heaven and flows with all
why when I watch/listen to this I want to pour raki on my hair and rub it in and then have you throw a flaming match to it
while I raise my hands high and dance ....flaming Rexho Saganaki style op op ....op hajde mor'e
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2018 10:37:35 GMT -5
not to be insulting but the singing does not flow into my ear ala'balkania style ...the background music maybe...
the singing does not flow with the Balkan habitat and its not bcs it differ language ,you can
take celtic /Gaelic music /old scottish and it flows well in Balkans landscape...
or maybe better to say its not Mediterranean like sounding
ps ..actually, Gaelic when being spoken or sung has a very much Albanian sound/style to it . I have met Gaelic speakers and whatever they say I can repeat very easily and vice versa for them in Albanian.
same roll of the tongue/mouth and yes Gaelic folk music makes the hairs of my spine rise
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2018 10:14:17 GMT -5
not agree ...your dead wrong ,that music and dance styles we share our the oldest in the Balkans ,since homeric and beyond
...let alone our common polyphonic singing (no music just vocals ) your music is middle eastern, Cifteli Davul Kaval Zurna Sargija etc, also many of your epic songs were transmitted from Serb/Croat ((South Slavic)) Bards for example the Albanian song of the frontier warriors. In Serbia/Croatia there is a form of singing known as Ganga, which was sang by the illyrians: example:
that was bad singing ...no rhythm ....like they were yelling and the background guys way off tune ....
maybe Thracian-illyro's .....Thrac / thres = yeller's /loud ones in alb
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2018 10:04:14 GMT -5
rexho i got like 4 notifications, and all were from you. man, i am not interested in your efforts to act like a human.
well......I cannot be the chechen you want me to be ....Vlah/bro
alb---------english
vëlla, vlah----brother, sibling
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Post by rex362 on Sept 15, 2018 9:51:56 GMT -5
I dont now know ....but when pyrros was born the second person to kiss him (after his mother) was saxon
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 19:14:29 GMT -5
I and other albs have been to many greek clubs /weddings and it usually sounds Balkanik and we can do the same steps within 2-3 minutes of fumbling ....but then again it varies on VILLAGE /AREA & Technique
(Fshat & Zanat/ chorio & zanat ) some areas are same especially from Pyrros's area ....and then the rest it changes bcs of new choreographed modern stuff
and then some transplanted stuff from the east
But when greeks in general come to our clubs /weddings they have no issues (mostly) dancing bcs its very basic and the base of old
Balkan dancing
I remember when I was younger(16) and at an alb wedding at a banquets place ,they had a greek wedding next door 1/3 of the greeks came over to ours and crashed the dance floor for a few hours ....yep old school vlachs ,,,,they heard the base/primative of Balkan music and it attracted them like magic
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 18:54:43 GMT -5
then lets go primitive in the Balkans .....only Albs & Vlachs can do music with no instruments and it goes
hand in hand with life, the landscape and the animals .....you know what I mean bro I dont give a rats ass what you say here .
POLYPHONIC CHAMPIONS WE ARE !! .....others around us or new arrivals copy us like they have already
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 18:05:35 GMT -5
To be honest it sounds most similar to the Native American in the rhythm. I guess because they were herders. But to be completely honest it sounds older than the South Slavic music The Native Americans, I have read, they are of Japanese (Korean?) stock, so this is normal. Also it is true that this music sounds older, because it is more primitive. But more primitive does not mean older *in* the balkans. example : Typical TRUE - ANCIENT Greek music : Some ancient TRUE Greek Dance : True greek war - dance :
bro these 3 video are a complete joke ...combination break dancing mixed with river dancing
.....last one very middle eastern and black sea area /Trabzon
also go watch some Palestinian dances on youtube ..and not akin to anything meditaranian about it.
figure thats what happens when you bring in refugee's en mass and then they take over the culture
and to pretend to of been of the ancients of that same land ....
now I have also heard music from Crete that is very nice also some good pontic stuff thats casual like
and sounds kosher to the Balkan ear
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 17:52:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I purposely picked a southern Macedonian dance because I thought it would be similar.
Check this one too
This one makes me laugh so hard ......it takes Albanian & greek elements and costume
must be for their history making classes
but so corny
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 17:50:15 GMT -5
^^ the dance seems totally albano-vlah. But the music not so much. in Ipiros we got 3 main music scales : 1) this remotely has similar notes with a serbian scale, but not rythm. This is very popular also in all Vlah lands (all Greece) 2) ^^^ Savvas Siatras = best Ipirot singer!!! This 2) is our version of major scale (pentatonic) 3) the most typical of the typical Ipirot vlah: pure pentatonic (Korean/Chinese) - and also BLUES! - this is minor pentatonic (sort of) ^^^^ this is what I truly am. Sometime I will chase my roots in the depths of Asia. BTW, our phenotype is rather white, I mean, even more white than some south slavs. and finally some local traditional rok - stoner :
this stuff I can listen to and enjoy 24/7
but that stoner stuff ...forgetaboutit
and give them whites some outdoor jobs constantly and then come and see me on how white they are
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 17:37:51 GMT -5
When you were complaining about Vlach music, I was expecting something like this:
Which sounds and feels pretty Balkan to me.
This is complete kosovar Alb music and dance ......
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 17:14:59 GMT -5
not agree ...your dead wrong ,that music and dance styles we share our the oldest in the Balkans ,since homeric and beyond
...let alone our common polyphonic singing (no music just vocals )
listen to this flute/kaval/fyell .....every alb-vlach chobani is a natural with it
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 16:59:01 GMT -5
But our Vlah music and dances go like :
this is the music I grew up with...
Very nice .....I grew up with same sound and dance /identical even the fricken same whistling
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 16:04:13 GMT -5
it is played in Greece, but Because it is played in NE of Greece it is probably of bulgarian origin.
Ulf talks about Zurna.
Anyways before the clarinet we had this :
most genuine Vlah music you'll ever get.
and now pls listen to this :
This is the beauty of our Vlah Ipirot soul :
problem :
IT IS ALWAYS SAD
even the major scales are sad....
WHY??
BECAUSE WE NEED THE SLAVS TO SHOW US THE JOY ... THE VIVID SPIRIT.....
and smth more
What are we?? the vlahs???
We are racially Slavs minus the soul... like dead SLavs...
seems SATAN works... here....
so maybe we are SLAVS??? from India/China/Korea???
those vlach tunes with flute (kaval) are beautiful and 99.9% identical to Albanian like all our music and dance is -its our spirit-. you say sadness , yes it might sound sad but what it actually is ...is touching ones soul....happy music does also but it dissipates quickly while the sadness lingers and is more remembered and deeper touched ....makes the hair on my spine rise and maybe a tear or two
but then again it is also in tune with our common landscape and it's histories ,so one must be from the area to appreciated it or forgetaboutit ..as in the 2nd video..one just needs to close ones eyes and listen and then homesickness sets in
and throw all that saxon mumbo-jumbo in the rubbish bin
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 15:35:54 GMT -5
yep, when you turn on your own kind and now they dont /wont give you time of day
except me but I have high hopes you will come back to your senses .
maybe I should ignore you also but then you might turn on hmmm maybe Brani
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 15:08:34 GMT -5
you mean ...slav for the moment ....
slav today Egyptian interests tomorrow or where the highest bid takes him
how long have I been kicking Chechen asses here ?
your not kicking nothing ......your just fodder material for grekoalbanians
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 15:05:09 GMT -5
you mean ...slav for the moment ....
slav today Egyptian interests tomorrow or where the highest bid takes him
because that's what vlachs do, sit and get assimilated. this one does
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Post by rex362 on Sept 14, 2018 14:57:44 GMT -5
you mean ...slav for the moment ....
slav today Egyptian interests tomorrow or where the highest bid takes him
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