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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 16:52:53 GMT -5
See that's the thing with history books, or rather history in general. They can be easily forged, made up or just written in accordances to someones need. That's why they should not be taken seriously. I mean, if Albanians are so old and ancient they should be as good as Italy by now. That's why science work very simple. Genetics say the modern Serbs are very old in this part of Europe, older than certain other nation ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
Albanians or Illyrians ?
bcs Pyrros also read this book .......15th century /Albanians identified as Illyrian
Balkan Studies Volume 20. Page193 -1415-
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 16:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 15:54:48 GMT -5
for Pyrros's fantasy play ...."ancient serbs "
According to Hofmann, Johann Jacob (1635-1706): Universal Lexicon, Historiam Sacram Et Profanam Omnis aevi, Omniumque Gentium;
The slaves (slaves, , robbers, serfs) are a Skythas people and in Europe they have come
serbs are apparently called slavons because they are still missing (seventh century) ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) and all the settlements inhabited by slavons were ruled by the Bulgarians....
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 15:45:23 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 15:42:31 GMT -5
don't say that............
if you dont answer him he'll self explode. All it needs is attention. You can direct your Serbiab/Slavic strengths to better targets.
So the early slavic conquests are in fact avaro-Bulgarian conquests, which are well documented, and their traces are found in Albania with totally Bulgarian and no serb toponyms. bcs .....whatever the serbs were back then , this name "serb" may have involved many communities or tribes, they were dissolved under the great Bulgarian-a var-ungro-crown invaders
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 15:21:36 GMT -5
Dusan ....
who in his intentions of power transformed the Church of serbia from a archbishopric in the patriarchate. In his thirst for power, he opposed the Eastern Roman Empire to resist and sought the help of Asian Turks, bringing them for the first time in Europe. ....so as you can see, there are no wars between ethnicities , but the priests' struggles for power and domination.
btw .....can you give me any major battles between serbs and Albanians before 1800 ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) I DOUBT IT VERY HIGHLY
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 15:16:37 GMT -5
don't say that............
if you dont answer him he'll self explode. All it needs is attention. You can direct your Serbiab/Slavic strengths to better targets.
nope ....I am giving you the bigger picture of why slavic topoy's
bro
so I am starting from the main ingredients
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 15:14:27 GMT -5
little guys like that are abundant in your history ......
simple pig farmers,whoever had the most pigs was the boss and they dealt in pazars selling pigs to other people
and picked up other languages maybe ...
I like talking about the big names ....like Dusan
Stefan Dusan, is a very dark figure who is himself a Roman emperor of so called serbs (Bασιλεὺς καὶ αὐτoκράτωρ Σερβίας καὶ Pωμανίας)-Empire of the East- unlike most of today's leaders he did not fight (though no battle of his was documented) for a Greater serbia but to rule over the Roma people, not only in serbia, but also in Epirus, or what was geographically known as greece. For this he requested permission from the Pope. ......So everywhere he had romaioi citizens, who knew the dependence of the kings roared without contradiction. This is perhaps the reason why he did not face resistance and therefore no battle was documented. slightly a single battle has been documented , in the Laberis mountains, where it was badly broken, but it certainly happened in that part of Rumelia, where people were pagan and knew about god and their princes, who respect the blood ties and not the religion (Albanians )
He was simply a Priest-Monarch and possibly not even slavic by blood one bit
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 15:02:35 GMT -5
I want to tell you that what unites the slav people is language and religion. ...from the racial side they are totally different from each other.... but for at least the last 1000 years, they had a religion that her liturgy kept and keeps in a language that served the priests,not only to perform pledges but also for administrative needs such as tax collection. This made it possible to transfer it to the people by replacing or overlapping the vernacular languages, from which it was artificially created at the top of their eras.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 14:59:10 GMT -5
then again I am not saying serbs are Bulgarian (or am I ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) )....bcs even Bulgarian have Asiatic/Iranian roots as serbs and possibly they became SLAVIC in the Balkans as did you only when they came into contact with the slavic Church
And the invaders have never been imposed on the language of the afflicted. Then where did these people of Central Asia benefit from slavic language? Only in one place ? in the Church ......... initially the ruling elite and then the population. And they were everywhere mentioned South slavs
no... Bulgarians were slavicized before their christianisation same way Serbs were slavicized before christianisation.
serbs have the darkest and most unpredictable history of all the Balkan peoples. They themselves claim to have come in the 6th century, while the Bulgarians a few centuries later....but then serbs make baba of Old Church Slavonic and have leaders that are simply Priest Monarchs
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 14:48:20 GMT -5
well yea ..Dusan took orders from the Pope
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 14:46:54 GMT -5
then again I am not saying serbs are Bulgarian (or am I ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) )....bcs even Bulgarian have Asiatic/Iranian roots as serbs and possibly they became SLAVIC in the Balkans as did you only when they came into contact with the slavic Church
And the invaders have never been imposed on the language of the afflicted. Then where did these people of Central Asia benefit from slavic language? Only in one place ? in the Church ......... initially the ruling elite and then the population. And they were everywhere mentioned South slavs
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 14:28:03 GMT -5
I dont care about tito mito or frito ......my main thing here is that ethnos was made based on religion
and thus religion having control over your historic leaders and your language from then till now ....
Even in Stephan Dusan' time
do you know of any battle that Dusan has developed to become emperor?
Nothing...no battles
Why did this happen? Because in an almost orthodox population (with small exceptions) in the Balkans, Roman-Orthodox princes-despots, they could proclaim and receive under their possession all the territories under the name Romaioi, though in many ethnicities. No population, regardless of its ethnicity and the spoken language will not oppose any prince-despot that would be proclaimed Roman by seeking possession for the sake of its ethnos. It was the religion that ruled the rulers, regardless of their ethnic origins (which in their case has never been important and clear). This is the reason that there were often rulers of slavic, greek, Venetian, and Latin denominations.
pyrros would understand this more than you Brani
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 14:02:01 GMT -5
whereas to an Albanians eyes
a serbian fighting a bosnian or croat is simply a slav on slav crime
we dont differentiate blood as different just bcs a different religion or no religion and
this is what pyrros admires of us Albanians
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 13:56:58 GMT -5
them fighting is not the issue .....what did they have in common ?
Bingo ....being Albanian still regardless of religion ....
religion did not make them Albanian or not Albanian
and they could of been fighting over a chicken ....dont matter
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 13:52:35 GMT -5
wrong ...not in America
Albanians are the only people an ethnic group whose language has never ceased talking in our family homes and the bonding force was not faith but blood ties and tongue .
The Muslim northern Albanian tribes participated in the Ottoman campaigns against Christian Albanian tribes, such as in 1876 when they devastated the territory populated by the Mirditë Catholics.
I expected something like this from you....came early
your talking skirmishes ....but fact is still Albanian on both sides
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 13:48:38 GMT -5
and divided by religion ....so simply an ethnos by religion
case closed !
same goes for every other nation on the planet ........ wrong ...not in America
Albanians are the only people/ ethnic group whose language has never ceased talking in our homes and the bonding force was not faith but blood ties and tongue .
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 13:36:40 GMT -5
and divided by religion ....so simply an ethnos by religion
case closed !
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 13:01:09 GMT -5
greeks and serbs have both been rounded up as one ethnic bcs of a common religion right after their revolutions
whereas the Balkan slavs have divisions bcs of religion IS PROOF ie Croatian / Bosnian /serb
where as Albanians have multiple religions and it did not justify as a qualifications for nationality acceptance
but then again what do I know ....I'm just a sheep herding Albanian villager
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2018 12:28:08 GMT -5
GF mod should move this to sf so I can better continue
I dont want to dirty it up more as the few have done already
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