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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:43:18 GMT -5
Generally speaking.. Kanaris is a good guy. Just sometimes... you know.. it happens to all of us... after so many years in this forum repeating the same and the same stuff to fanatic newbees... we explode in some posts. Generally.. we come "back "again the next days... Its like an "explotion".. and back to normal again..
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:38:32 GMT -5
Yes, yes the Greek education system can never lie. Give me a break. Greece was doing its best to prevent our declaration of independence in 1912 by making deals with the Ottomans, using its priests and killing our intelligentsia. I can tell you without the need of an education system but based on my grandpa's house that they were bombing the houses of civilians in WW2. Look at the map claimed by Greece in the London Conference; that'll explain why the Greek army was in specific places in 1912, WWI and WWII. P.S When I went to school in Albania there was no communism; so your "Hotza" claims are just straws you're clinging at. It would serve you to read the Megali idea a little. First of all.. during the formation of Albania it was normal since we believe... in south you're Dorians and Greece is your natural environment No need for new countries.. But that a different story. Again there was no state of war or attack from Greek state. Second.. are you sure for the role in Democracy your grandpa played in WW2? He was with.. the Democratic allies.. or with the Fashists. Because what I remember is that many houses belong to the Fashists bombed all over Europe.. not only in Albania. So.. clarify first the role of your grandfather during that period.. and then deal with the "bad" Greeks...
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:29:01 GMT -5
So.. you keep saying that an EU and NATO country would act by itself... and attack a neigboring country.. because the Turkish PM... said it? That is what you said.. dont you?
Listen.. there is a proverb in Greek saying "I cannot empty the content of my head to fill up his/her head"...
PS.... and Greeks troops were mobilizing in North Greek borders... due an upheaval and attack of the citizen in gun supplies... with no police or any other state structure..in the neighboring country... if you can recall..? Not even draft for that mobility among Greek male citizens. It was only units that already were surving their duty. What that has to do with "invade".. and "occupy"" Pfsss.. you're good even for the Turks to manipulate the low mentality of your people.....
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:21:29 GMT -5
The threat from Greece in 97 is a real one. Every Albanian living there at that time can tell you that. That is what I afraid the answer would be.. What about any real politician or any proffesor from a University... would he tell me the same? You know... I was leaving too in Greece and I was 27 years old! Dont you find it normal to remember if my country was ready for war/invade in a different country? Especially me.. in a draft age.... and reading/watching everyday the news ALL my life... pfss... really guys... I really cannot believe how easy you can manipulate the Albanian people. You're like puppets. I can do whatever I want in Albania... just by using rumors.... and 2-3 payed parots. Guys... its really sad... Wake up.... and welcome in Europe.
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:10:07 GMT -5
one more child raised with the American ideals... Always.. Bigger-Faster-Stronger.... and... explosion!
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:09:12 GMT -5
Slovakikou is Slovakian. The pilot was Slovenian.. not Slovakian.
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:06:14 GMT -5
Its called not being a GAYreek. leshte you dont want to start this conversation about the nationality of the guys hanging around the Train Station of Thessaloniki and the central parks of Athens at late hours... dont you?
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 14:04:59 GMT -5
worldpeace "What the hell does the modern "Greeks" has in common with the ancient Hellenes , genetically ? NOTHING !" ---------------------------------------- ... wise wordpeace said... "himara.eu is not an official website , never hear about the FYROMian website florina.org ? Hahaha ! ----------------------------------------" florina.org represents a Political party, not..... a city "tirana.gov.al is an official website ! In hell the EU ! " ---------------------------------------------- Thats an official site too. You must learn genious that today any nation of Europe can use .eu. The idea is every site from European continent the next 10-20 years to have only the .eu. Himara, as more progressive due to the Greek element.. started first..
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 13:57:36 GMT -5
Ah....so you're telling me that Greek army was killing inocent Albanians in Albania during 1912, WW1 and WW2 in order to occupy Albania. Right? What I learn in school is that Greece and Albania had never a war except a small period of time during the alliance of Albania with Faschist regimes of Europe... and even this time the war was more between Greeks and Faschist using the land of Albania than Albanian state itself. So... an education system is lying... and I wonder.. which one? Let me thing... hmmm... the Greek one..... the Hotza one.... hmmmm the answer seems to be very difficult. I need some time to think about it...
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 13:46:05 GMT -5
Worldpeace "Greek-Turkish war ? Hahaha ! In one hour the 72.000.000 Turks will occupy you !" --------------------------------------------------------------- So... the way I see it... we have one hour to send Pasalimani and Turkalbanians to the stone age. Its enough for our F-16's.. You didnt got what I said.. dont you? Forget the Turks. Save your as.s. Even if we have only 1 bomb before Turkey attacks from Asia.. that bomb will be send to Pasalimani... Try to get it.. "In '97 you menace as to take with force "Northern Epirus" , the Turks react by menacing you that they will consider an attack against Albania as an attack against Turkey and they will kick your ass !" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Really, do you know what I wonder everytime I speak with a Turkalbanian? I wonder if stupidity come from the day you were born... or if it comes from Albanian education system and this way even normal Albanians are affected..? Can you answer me that question? Really. Where exactly did you learn that Greece.. an EU country... and a NATO country.... will attack Albania in 1997? In family/friends talkings or in school? I really wonder and I would love an answer... because.. in the first case its ok. The second case is what troubles me... "The Greeks will occupy us ? Yes since the beginning of the WWII Kolas the governor of Corfu ceded the island to the Italians with the condition to unite it with Albania . And Kolas was not Muslim , but an Orthodox Albanophone "Greek" !" --------------------------------------------------------------------- Corfu wanted to unite.. with Albania? Really now.. in shcools or in family/friends.. ?
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 13:24:26 GMT -5
Demosthenes.. someone by looking my Karma.. knows exactly how many times I talked with you. ;D ;D
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 13:23:13 GMT -5
Pyrros "Basil, for the 4th time bro, I WAS NOT THE ONE TO MENTION FIRST THE WORD "BEACH" in this thread. IS THAT TOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? I NEVER SAID I AM GOING TO A BEACH." -------------------------------------------------- You're right on this. I'm Sorry. I was biased from all this Serbolagnia and Albanophobia that usually comes from you and that bias affected my post. Sorry again.
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 13:20:26 GMT -5
Demosthenes.. the "Macedonian" language you mention.. is the one who was spoken by Alexander and his Macedonians... or from Zivkof and his Bulgarians? ;D ;D Because the Macedonian language I mention.. is written on ALL Macedonian unearthed findings... Help me with that...? ;D ;D Sure I will help you. All these years, you say that the ancient Macedonians spoke Greek, wrote Greek and took the Greek culture. I had never had any problems with that. Now you say that they spoke Macedonian, when you contested the existence of the ancient Macedonian language, always asking where is an example. So what is it? Make up your mind. There was the ancient Macedonian language, and there was Greek. You can not mix the two together. First of all, ... as always you dont answer my simple question; Alexander's Macedonian language... or Zivkof's "Macedonian" language? Its amazing simple. Just give me a name. Now, let get to your comments. I always said that Macedonians spoke Doric dialect. A Doric dialect is a Greek dialect. When you say the spoke "Macedonian" you imply their dialect.. is not Greek. As you understand, that cannot happen. Or... it can happen if the next years... some famous historians from your country proove to the world that finally Dorians were not Greeks Also you can mix perfect the ancient Macedonian dialect with the Greek language the same way you can mix perfectly Bavarian dialect with German language. Now regardles what do you believe or what I believe... lets both see what is the ONLY language found on Macedonian unearthed stuff.. And before I close... for one more time... Alexander's or Zivkof's..
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 13:06:43 GMT -5
Demosthenes "Greek is Greek, and if there was a Ponti influence in Northern Greece, that's because they are all Ponti up there." ------------------------------------------------------------------ All Pontians.. "Many" is a different word than "all" and both are tottly different from "influence". Remember who are watching your posts..
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 4:46:27 GMT -5
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 4:17:12 GMT -5
Let me get it right; Pyrro.. you're a Greek... coming from a country that has more beaches than cities or villages from all Europe together....... and you got into a conversation about... Yougoslavian.. beaches? Pyrro... give me a break man.. ;D Its good to love a country... but give me a break.. ;D ;D Try to be impartial once.. Demosthenes.. the "Macedonian" language you mention.. is the one who was spoken by Alexander and his Macedonians... or from Zivkof and his Bulgarians? ;D ;D Because the Macedonian language I mention.. is written on ALL Macedonian unearthed findings... Help me with that...? ;D ;D
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 3:54:18 GMT -5
We speak about Epirots... who moved to work in.. Epirus? Who are not locals in Epirus... the Epirots? Molosoi family and Olympiada, Pyrros (the real one ), Dorians, Dodoni, Aherontas river and all that stuff.... were not local stuff? And who were the true locals who had the true and real relationship with the above words; The Chams? lol lol lolWhat Epirots are you fantasizing about? In your orthoturkolandia dreamworld there’s been no exchange or movement of people’s in 2000 years? Doh…stupidity has no bounds...most of the greeks in Albania after 1945 were commie refugees because you were killing each other Of course. There is always that thing that comes out in our minds everytime.. "Should I be called "Hellen".. or "Albanian", "Turk" etc etc.... and in a weird way.. always it sounds better for us to be called Albanian or Turk. Afterall.. who wants to be part of Hellenic world when he has the chance to be Albanian or Turk.More fantasies…members of the Greek minority in Albania have not lived in Lalaland like you for over half a century, so they have a different concept of the world…they live in a real world, can’t afford to troll on the net…and why the hell bring Turks here? Lol complexes run deep in you, don’t they? Self-Albanizing means they no longer speak the language as they are no longer interested in it. Greek in Albania has become the language of katundars (uncouth villagers)…. in the small Greek villages of the Riviera you no longer hear Greek, just Albanian…I have said it before, the last thing these people need to do to be fully Albanian is to sing songs to the UCK…..soon, very soon. Even in Himara, there’s only one sign (that of a shop) in Greek, all the rest in Albanian, same goes with flags, Alb ones beat the Greek one by at least 10:1 ratio…I have told you orthoturks, hop on a bus in Thessaloniki and come visit since you love and worry for them so much…come see for yourselves…but no, of course trolls will be trolls Google translate this osservatoriocaucaso.org/article/articleview/7851/1/41/Those Greeks have have only seen bad from Greece, first their grandfathers still remember being chased out of their land like animals because they were commies, now their grandchildren can’t become Greek citizens as this would mean Greece would no longer have something to play against Albania, but hey the Greek gov doesn’t give s**t about Greeks in Greece proper, why should it give fck about a dying minority they heard of only in the 90-s lol add to that the fact that the Albs around them are mixing with newcoming K and M. Albs...this solidariety puts to shame the relationship they have with Greeks from Greece proper...everytime they come home they have to suffer like us from the Greek border police just because they have Alb documents...even on easter days...so they start to feel inferior about being Greek I as a cham, have no problem with them, they are fine people, the problem is in the southeast, too bad there can’t be tsunamis in the Aegean Imagine a Himariot with a house next to the seaLol Himariots in the USA are among the biggest haters of Greece in the world. Himariots can’t do s**t in Himara exactly because Bollano the scum your very trolls here love so much was being paid by the pan-epirotic organizations to instigate ethnic animosity and keep the zone undeveloped, that’s why the people of every ethnicity hate him…he took too much money and got c**ky…now he is no longer useful and has been sacked from his party lol...his own Greek fellas sold him Himara needs urgest investment from an Albanian patriot mayor, his ethnicity doesn't matter....Pandeli Majko was twice prime minister, he is from the Macedonian minority but always behaved as an Albanian patriot BUT, on the other hand, you know being Greek is a strong legacy. Greek commounities all over the world keep their traditions very strong.Yeah, that is the reason why we have to pay a lot of money to teachers for Greek minority pupils at the absurd ratio of 1:1 at times, because the Greek minority has long dispersed…even from lower dropulli I had some nice pics hehe…Greek kids parading with Alb and Greek flags….but the Greek ones were so tiny I remember years ago, Alb ultranationalists screaming about the hellenization of South Albania given that many Albs immigrants used to talk a lot in Greek...but these were the aforementioned katunars that thought they would look more important if they spoke in a foreign language....same happened with Italian and English (there's a funny video with a guy pretending to be English lmaoooooooo) this phenomemon has reversed since 2005....even in lonelyplanet Albania forum there's people asking why nobody knew Greek in Albania when he/she was there lolololol The minorities in Albania are dying, in 10 years the only non-Albanian group will be the Italians lol Aha.. now I got it! Royal family of Molosoi and King Pyrros.. were ex-commounists! Also, Dodoni and Aherontas river were the headquarters of real commounist troops! Ok.. now I know history. Sorry for my mistakes... Aha.. now I got your second comment too! Greeks in Albania.. dont feel Greeks... they hate Greece.. and they dont speak Greek! With my poor mind I thought that Greek schools like Arsakeion are full of students from both nationalities. I thought also they can afford they applications so they have to say 10 "no" for every 1 "yes".. Now I got it straight. Thank you again. Aha! I got your third comment too!! Bollano is getting paid from Greek governemnt. Until now I thought that Greek government erases from the map of earth groups like "Mavi" etc. I thought also that Greek people vote for Bollano and that is why he is a.. mayor. But again.. who cares what I thought. You're so wise. Aha!! I got your 4th comment toooo! Greeks from Albania... hate Greece and Greek nation!! I even found the site of the city of Himara. The most hatefull Himariotes! www.himara.eu/Its clear they hate Greece... Man.. you're soooo wise! We need your brilliant mind and comments in our forum! You make us better and smarter people... Really.
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 3:40:01 GMT -5
Insalah you have the bunkers...and you are safe... ;D Turkish-nato base in Pashalimani? Baba is back? ;D Inslalah ? And we are the Turks ? ----------------------------- We destroy the bunkers ! ----------------------------- The Turks save us from you in '97 ! Lets hope God reward them with Thrace , Cyprus and the Aegean Islands ! And maybe us with Corfu , Epirus and Florina-Kastoria for being friend of the Turks ! "The Turks save us from you in '97 !" ------------------------------------------------ ..are you ...from our sollar system? Are you from earth? Just curious.. "Lets hope God reward them with Thrace , Cyprus and the Aegean Islands ! And maybe us with Corfu , Epirus and Florina-Kastoria for being friend of the Turks " ------------------------------------------------------- Whatever their reward will be from God.. ;D ..you and that Pashalimani will be the firtst that we'll bomb in case you cooperate with Turks during an imaginery war between Greece-Turkey. Remember under war conditions you start with the nearest bases of the enemy... So.. let all these Greek lands aside.. and take care for your own one. Even if we loose all our lands.. your treason to Balkans will be paid one more time. For sure.. even Turks will feel happy with their gain.. we'll make sure you not to share their happiness.. To remind you... German soldiers left from Greece untouched. Not the collaborators though...
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 3:30:40 GMT -5
leshte.. what Chams have to do with the Greek minority in N.Epirus? Chams were active people against Greek state and Greek people. Chams cooperated with occupiers. Chams formed paramilitary units killing people for their ideas or their race. Greek minority has some old people living peacefully into their villages. They didnt fight nobody. They dont have papamilitary units. They didnt cooperate with occupiers of Albania. they didnt take any action again the Albanian state during the war in Yougoslavia.... and finally.. they're waiting peacefully to die from old age. How it comes and you compare these 2 groups of people who have NOTHING in common?
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Post by Kassandros on Jun 27, 2009 3:20:32 GMT -5
Basil said: " They dick their graves.. and simple people feel it deeply...I dont thing we'll follow a failed example.. " I was gonna say something but I'll let others do that joke. This is way better than what someone here in the GF suggested in earlier threads; meaning drawn and shoot the illegal immigrants. Better to collaborate with those other countries. .. ok... my level of English is not very good I guess.. especially when I keystroke in a fast way.. . Dont forget.. I'm Greek.. not American. My first concern is to have good commant of the Greek language.. Regarding the summit over the illegal immigration.. again central and north former Commounist EU countries.. dont care. Poland, Czech Republic etc dont want to contribute to fight the illegal immigration in Med Sea since they dont have a problem with that. None illegal immigrants goes in these countries after they enter Europe.. and the feel safe. On the other hand, they all agreed to pay ALL the expences Greece is doing to repatriate these people. Also many agreed to help with planes and some ships to guard Aegean. Last week.. a Turkish jet had a dogfight with a Slovenian! border patrol jet.. ;D ;D It starts becoming funny.. ;D ;D We'll see... we'll see...
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