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Post by wbb on Dec 6, 2010 4:19:45 GMT -5
Im arab? i got arab origin but i didnt say im arab. And i already made up my mind you kulfoldi, im Hungarian. I dont give a chit what those racist Serbs thinks, im Hungarian. If they dont like it they can hang themselves if they want to. Hungarians in Hungary even accept me as Hungarian as much as any other Hungarians, that they even go as far as making joke out of me, calling me Mugyar instead of Magyar. Mu= (A combination of Muslim and Magyar) and Gyar Mugyar=Hungarian or Magyar muslim. Similar version of Bosnian muslims =Boslims. Hungary was a muslim country, most of todays Hungary including Budapest was under the Ottomans, those hungarian territories were Sancaks of the Ottomans and while Szapolyai's Eastern Hungary (Transylvania) was under under Ottoman vassals, so overally Hungary was a muslim country because it was ruled by the Muslims. It's you that is fabricating Hungarian history, and i have even remember that you admitted during the past that Hungarians were genetically Turks, but after that your oppinion changed. Magyarised is another form of Turkised, no matter how you trying to deny it. I even heard that 10 Magyar tribes were Turkic, at least that what someone from the Jobbik told me. Magyar origin have only Turkic element and there is no other element, there is no German, no Slavic, no Gypsy, no Armenian either but Turkic. All those other ethnos i mentioned have mixed with Magyars and they accepted the Magyar element, that is Turkic element. You know that Hungary was historically was called Turkia/Tourkia yeah? Im not talking about Ottomans, dont ever bring this Ottoman bs, im talking about right before Ottomans. Huns were overally Turkic and about Scythians, there are theories about it that even Scythians were Turks instead of Iranians. And there was another theories that even Alans were Turkic, who knows. But your claims that Huns were not overally Turkic is bs, you your common logic and answer my question: If Huns were not overally Turkic then what were the Avars? Avars are not Turkic too? Bulgars are not Turkic too? What pro-Arab? you buta, you mean pro-saudis wahhabis-salafi crap? I dont follow this idea but pro-Islamic yes but you follow pro-Christian orthodox ideas so what the bloody different? You ever seen me critisizing your orthodox idea? Never!!! I have even posted you about Hungarian orthodoxy website. But i have seen you many times insulting Islamic and anything that is Islamic as i am into belief that you may be Islamophobic, not just in Hungary forum but Turkish and Albanian ones as well. I wont tollerate any garbage here and in Hungary caused by people who are just Magyarised and faking Hungarian trying to destroy Hungarian history and Hungarian identity and anything Hungarian and convert them into "European". If the Jobbiks sees your post, they straight away tell you off. And be careful with this Jobbik-thing, try not to say that you know some from there cause i know people from Jobbik more than you since im most actively with them. This is something you should know. Jobbik wants the rethinking of the Finno-Ugric narrativeJobbik is calling for the rethinking of the Finno-Ugric linguistic theory based on fraudulent reasonings and politically motivated arguments. In a letter to the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Jobbik challenges members of the institution to reexamine traditionally held views on the origin of Hungarians that had been part of the national consciousness before the Finno-Ugric theory was introduced into national awareness by the Habsburgs. [/i] The Habsburgs, by all means, wanted to eradicate the commonly held view of national origin. In order to do that they commissioned foreign linguists to construct a fake narrative that was alien to the native notion of history; the goal was to break national resistance by depriving the nation of its traditional views of history that posed an obstacles to Habsburg colonization. The Finno-Ugric language theory and the fraudulent arguments about the origin of Hungarians concocted by German linguists a century ago. Before, Hungarians had an altogether different view about their own origin. They held that they were the descendants of Hun-Scythian ancestors. The story of Hun-Scythian origin has survived in oral and written forms and are supported by Greek, Arabic, Iranian and Chinese historical documents. Genetic research that has been conducted, recently, in the regions once belonged to the Soviet empire, shows that Hungarians have no genetic relationship with the Finno-Ugric people. These new findings have already reflected in the Finnish school textbooks. Finns are already distancing themselves from the Finno-Ugric fairy tale. In order to survive globalization people have to know their true history, otherwise loose their identities as the global elite has been conducting a clandestine war on national cultures. The aim is to uproot human beings from their social environments that provide protective surroundings for them. The displaced masses can be manipulated and used as mindless consumers--an ultimate goal of those who rule the world. The global landscape is already full of socially engineered human beings (“experts without spirit, sensualist without heart” --Goethe); these are the people that make up the bulk of consumer societies. They function as tools rather than spiritual beings in the hands of the global elite. What Jobbik wants is a healthy debate about all aspects of Hungarian history. It is not the intention of Jobbik to interfere with scientific research or by any means restrict scientific freedom, but rather, inspire scientists to examine the contradictions inherent in the Finno-Ugric narrative. In the spirit of this outlook, Jobbik supports the establishment of new university departments and other civic workshops devoted to the research of the history and the origin of Hungarians. It calls for the establishment of a new institution dedicated solely to the research of the ancient history of Hungarians. Jobbik also calls for the revision of textbooks of the elementary and high schools, in order to let children and young people getting acquainted with the true history of their ancestors, as early as possible. www.jobbik.com/jobbik-announcements/3100.html
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Post by wbb on Dec 5, 2010 1:11:20 GMT -5
oooo an Arab rat? why not Turkic? or is Turks are rats as well? Oooo so you are muslim too, to me it's sound like your not at all, but someone faking as muslims, yes like a stupid Munafikeen (hypocrites). So i hope you gonna start fearing Allah for name-calling your muslim brother like that, your muslim brother is hardly an Arab. Your insult is my hasanah. I am Hungarian, no matter what you say or what you think. And Oszkar, im not going reply to any of your fairtales, since your just an ignorant person, who is living in a dream-world thinking that your a scholar or a historian but really your just a professional fairytale-story-teller, reading bed-time stories for kids that "once upon a time Hungarians were not Turks but something unique from the Moon or Mars or Jupiter or where ever they came from and lived with the Turks but really they are not Turks, they just borrowed 300 Turkic loan words, fuked their Turkic wives or husband, gave birth to genetically Turkic children, chose the Turks as their leader, but they really not Turks and not even Turkised. Hungarians had their own history but really the Hungarian's history is their Turko-Turanian history, not their dumbchit Slavic,German,Gypsy, Armenian Hungarian-wanna-be trash."So go and tell those stories, but im telling ya that even the Turks in this forum thinks your story is a pseudo-science. You even go as far as saying that Huns are not Turkic and dont speak Turkic, dream on with your dreaming!!! You think you know more than the chronicaller? bullchit!!! Even Ibn Rusta gots more brain than you, and his knowlegde is more worth listening to than your dogmatic fairytale bedtime stories. So see ya later, i got something better to do, notibly chatting with real Hungarians and not the stupid kulfoldi Hungarians about the Hungarian history on facebook. Anyway even i dont celebrate Christmas anymore, Merry Christmas.
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Post by wbb on Dec 5, 2010 0:34:36 GMT -5
Zoltan is not Slavic, you Velika-Srpska retard minded. Like i said before Zoltan is a Magyarised name for Arabic title Sultan. Zlatan is not even similar to Zoltan or Sultan, so forget that idea. First of all 95% of Hungarians are not Slavs, and secondly there's no proof of what so ever that early Turks were Mongol-looking, and not all Turks were Mongols, Turks were a different group than Mongols. Thirdly, about your claim that Hungarians are 95% Slavic, are bullchit pseudo-science which supports for Velika-Srpska crap. Most of those Slavic people whom Magyars assimilated during their arrivals, were not Slavic at all but forcefully "Slavicised"by the Slavs of Moravia, Slavs of Balaton principality, etc,etc. Those Slavicised people were Turks who decended from Bulgars,Avars and Huns. And like i said there is no proof that those Turks were mongol-looking, you dont have a time-machine that is clicking back in time and discovered that those Turks were Mongols, so your claim about it had collapsed since you got no idea at all but yes with your Velika-Srpska propaganda which is based on pseudo-science has that claim since Velika-Srpska theory is all based on land-grabbing of others. Fourtly, you got no friggin idea how i look and what kind of genetic im holding since your ignorant mind claims that im an Arab but really i got something more than just Arab gene on me. Apart from my Serb family, (who knows what they were, maybe they were just another Serbianised people originated from Zenta but really they are Turks), i got Cuman gene as well, and my Cuman look typically Turks with little Asiatic feature but not Mongolic but rather Turkic-looking. Doesnt matter, Magyars do have Iranic on them, the assimilation of Iranic Jasz, proves it. Not so fast, Einstein. Who owned the land before dumb Viking-Slavs who terrorised the land arrived? The Turks and Iranians, so shut your mouth. Another of those stupid pseudo-science, no such Magyars admit that Buda derives from Voda. Buda was name after Attila's brother Bleda (aka Buda). Your retardism proves me well at it's best.
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Post by wbb on Dec 4, 2010 1:00:03 GMT -5
Buda-pest? I know Taban district in Buda was Serb-populated, my great grandmother on my father's side was from there before she was Magyarised and she left 2 years before the demolition of Taban for urban development. lool you think that 95% of Hungarians were Slavs? dream on. Hungarians are not Slavs, we mixed with Slavs but we still not Slavs. Hungarian situation is exactly the same like Turkish who mixed with Slavs. sorry to tell ya but Zoltan is not a Slavic name. Zoltan is the Magyarised name for Sultan , most possibly from Turkish but it is originally Arabic. It was used by the Magyar muslims back in those days, so it was impossible for the name Zoltan to be Slavic since there were hardly any Slavic muslims then, most Slavics were slaves of the Arabs and Muslims. Your wrong Novi, Hungarians are not really Hungarianised Slavs, Hungarians are really Slavised Avars, Slavised Bulgars, Slavised Ossetic people. Those people were already living in Pannonia before the dumb Slavs who are related to Vikings, came to terrorised the land and the process of Slavicisation is the main goal for Slav colonialism. So in one way those natives of Pannonia were Slavised Turko-Iranian ethnos.
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Post by wbb on Dec 3, 2010 8:04:11 GMT -5
The Shopi Bulgarians use the word Macka ( Cat in Slavic, mostly Serbian) right, which is different from standard Bulgarian (Kotka). We Hungarians use the same word Macka for cat, so is that means that Hungarians are Serbs as well? Get a life!!! Just because Shopi may have some Serbian borrowings, doesnt mean they are Serbian-by-heart, are they? So they are not Serbian, no matter how you trying to prove. Your next goals is probably claiming Hungarians as Serbs just because we use some Serb borrowings, so dream on!!!!
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Post by wbb on Dec 3, 2010 6:25:15 GMT -5
If this true then really Magyars and Bulgars are same people but different Tribes or clans. Huns never dies. What a pure and sensible nationalist comment with no influence from Fascism and Nazism. You know i would prefer Bulgarian nationality rather than Australian one. Pyrros, you are not Greek or Serbian, you are Arvanites and that is Albanian. You are the first Albanian i've seen who are not proud of his Albanian heritage, you should be shame of yourself, surely if i was an Albanian patriot, i would by 100% tie up your legs and hang you upside down on the tree by your legs and invite all Albanian eldery and youngsters to spit on your traitorous face, surely they would deal with you in Albanian way.
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Post by wbb on Dec 2, 2010 5:44:28 GMT -5
Your stupid Pro-Serbian neo-nazism mentality is what destroys your own soul buddy, expecially with this Fuking African and stupid Mongols comment. It's you that need to destroy your hatred of what? Africans and Mongols. Otherwise, you seriously need some sort medication to tranquillize your polluted mind from those influences of this retarded Saint Hitler a pedophile who raped his own niece. Bravo, your doing a fine job here buddy. loool ;D So here's my list for today of ethnic groups which Serbs label them as Serbs.CroatiansBosniak or BosniansTorlaksWestern BulgariansNorthern MacedoniansYour next one is Montenegrin, and how about Africans?
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Post by wbb on Dec 2, 2010 5:26:15 GMT -5
Hungary a christian country in modern times? dream on, Hungary today is not even govern by the church, what the hell you on about? Hungary today is a secular-state not Christian-state. looool ;D Borrowing my arse, those Hungarians spoke Turkic exactly how the Huns and Avars spoke, even the Szekelys spoke Turkic. German, Slavic, heavy borrowing of Latin and/or Romance, Hebrew, Yiddish, Romany (gypsy language), Esperanto, Finno-Ugric, English is all what destroyed the Hungarian langauge due to the progress done by Europeanisation over centuries. The modern Hungarian is a mess that one can see it is. The position of the modern Hungarian language is very much similar in method done by idiot European wanna-be linguist with Esperanto. Unless the person was already aware of this example, I doubt by ear the Hungarian or the Turk would understand each others sentence as the sound of the language is different and is the pronounciation. What you doubt and what the Hungarian language really are, is a 2 different thing. This 1 sentence comparision with Turkish, does really classify as Turkic. And if this is not enough for you to see it then im gonna get another sentence done for you, but i can tell you 1 thing im not going to be surprised at all and im not going expect you to accept it since your mentality is not based on Research but on philosophy. It's your powerful philosophy that makes you deny thing even if it's based on truths and because of your Pro-Armenian views, this is another reason for your hostility towards Turkic. unique, unique, not even Chinese is unique. Yes Hungarians have their own Turkic history, not their bloodly faked Slavic, German, Gypsy blah,blah blah history. Now yes, before no. Hungarian/Magyar was a tribal name of Turks, since Magyar was a personal name of a leader. People who mixed up with Turks, take their language, their culture and lived with them is a Turk. Ibn Rusta claims is more believing then your pseudo-science, if Ibn Rusta had claim that Magyars are Turks, it is obvious that he had met them and seen them as Turks. Link me about this Byzantine claims that Magyars were Scythians, because i have also seen articles that Byzantines also label Magyars as Turks. Your a professional philosopher, all you need now is a philosopher's stone. ;D If they werent Turks, why the hell they associated with them for then? And all people who associated with Turks, allied with Turks, who's leader was a Turk, dont you think that these people became Turkised and is a Turk? yeah yeah fairytale, your philosophy is based on fairytales.
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Post by wbb on Dec 2, 2010 4:34:07 GMT -5
Pyrros will you stop calling those Bulgarians, Mongols? Bulgarians arent Mongols, and majority of them would disagree with their Turanian origin since majority of them are Slavic. And other thing, you think Serbs doesnt vandalise Wiki at all? All i see is the constant changing of Torlak articles being vandalised by stupid Serbs and pro-Serbs like you. Oh i see so Western Bulgarians are also Serbs? Smart answer, Professor. So i put other ethnic group on my list for modification. So here's my list for today of ethnic groups which Serbs label them as Serbs.CroatiansBosniak or BosniansTorlaksWestern BulgariansCongratulations on your research. loool ;D
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Post by wbb on Dec 2, 2010 1:24:12 GMT -5
Here we go Bulgarians, now the Serbs are claiming that Croatians and Bosniaks are Serbs as well. ULF get a life with your Pro-Serbian mentality, if those 2 ethnic groups are Serbs then why the hell you Serbs been ethnic cleansing them during Yugoslavian civil-war you retard? And actually the Croats are more closer to the Hungarians than they are to the Serbs and the Croats prefer Hungarians instead of Serbs. And Croatia was in a union with Hungary 500 times longer than they were with your Serb-dominated Yugoslavia. loool ;D
So here's my list for today of ethnic groups which Serbs label them as Serbs. Croatians Bosniak or Bosnians Torlaks
Is there anymore ethnic groups who are also Serbs? What comes next? Bulgarians? Macedonians? Montenegrins? Albanians? Hungarians? Russians? Germans? Africans? Gypsies?
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Post by wbb on Dec 2, 2010 1:07:36 GMT -5
Marshall Stanko.... U think I give a damn about what a stupid Neo-Nazi chetnik gonna label me as?
Ioan, i dont even know how to speak, read and write Arabic so therefore the Serbs comment about me is false. I cant even read the Kuran in arabic, i need a translation of it to be able to understand it. looool ;D So really im hardly an Arab, prefer it this way....Hungarianised Arab. lool ;D
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Post by wbb on Dec 2, 2010 0:57:27 GMT -5
Islam had always been foreign through out many continents not just Europe. Islam was even foreign in the Middle East during the prophet Muhammed days since alot of Arabs who were Pagans, Jews and Christian used to abused him alot and consider him and Islam as alien to the world. Anyway i dont think Islam is foreign in Albania-Kosova combine since Muslims are in majority in those 2 countries.
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Post by wbb on Dec 2, 2010 0:52:00 GMT -5
Desire, if we are to reject Hadiths because it appeared after the death of our prophet (salal lahu alayhi wa salaam) then what would be the Sunnah? Isnt the Hadiths are the Sunnah?
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Post by wbb on Dec 1, 2010 11:31:46 GMT -5
hahahaha ;D
Dont worry about them, they dumb and their mind is already polluted with their Pro-Serbian chetnik propaganda rather than reading your thread. I wouldnt even be surprised at all that Serbs even go as far as saying that Torbesh and Pomaks are also Serbs. loooool ;D ;D
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Post by wbb on Dec 1, 2010 11:00:23 GMT -5
Ahhhh i see, and if there was a stupid illiterate Arvanites thinking they Greeks or Serbs or Albanians but really they are dumb stupid Vlacho-gypsies from Albania who had been kicked out from Albania into Greece, you would be studying in the university of how to make up your mind of which identity you should be picking for yourself, rather than following those Chetnik Neo-Nazi propaganda.
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Post by wbb on Dec 1, 2010 10:11:00 GMT -5
OOOOOOOO but i never been to Ghaza, i grew up in Hungary. ;D And dont worry, Israel is not going to last. The supposed ownership of Serbia was belong to the Bulgarian empire, fullstop.
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Post by wbb on Dec 1, 2010 10:06:26 GMT -5
sure, i'll leave ya alone. At least i can see you got trouble coping with those Mongol relatives of mine. ;D
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Post by wbb on Dec 1, 2010 10:02:24 GMT -5
With all those proof the Bulgarians are sending in this thread, and the Serbs who use to serve the Bulgarian empire are still ignorantly rejecting their true origin and their country's history but rather blindly follows their fairytale Pro-Serbian propaganda. And more interestingly is that Serbs are claiming that Torlaks are Serbs when infact they are not. So is Torbesh and Pomaks are Serbs too? Of course the Serbs gonna claim that these 2 Bulgarian sub-group are Serbs. loool ;D
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Post by wbb on Dec 1, 2010 9:44:29 GMT -5
OOOOO you are not just critisizing about the African, but also critisizing by calling Ioan a gayfriend. Im very curious, cause im into a belief that im talking to a could-be Neo-Nazi who hates everyone.
So your list is all ended up with this. African gayfriend Arab who blows himself up Dumb stupid Mongols Bulgarian the prostitute Go back to Mongolia What can an Arab know... i just hope some time soon you will get your mongol expansionist butt kicked hard... The list is all endless here, while we were talking about Bulgarian ownership of Serbia and about the origin of Serbs and Slavs who serves as slaves history.
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Post by wbb on Dec 1, 2010 9:26:53 GMT -5
Your unique theory is about the Yugoslav cities with this African thing, let me browse the web and find a picture of an African man dresses up like a typical Serb who wears an opanci cap if i can find one. Maybe that would support your unique theory about the Yugoslav cities that never been part of the Bulgarian empire with the scientific finding of this African man who became a Serb thing.
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