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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 30, 2013 13:35:36 GMT -5
When you're studying history about your people it's very important to put emotions aside especially when it's the truth you really want (whether it's nice or ugly - you of all people would get this I would think), otherwise what's the point? investigating Yugoslavia's relationship with the Axis during the WWII from different perspectives wasn't easy, trust me, one-side of my family was communist throughout, while the otherside were Monarchists/royalists - being in Canada and away from all the nonsense actually helped me with this. I am not anti-Slavic, and to be honest I am tired of trying to get you to understand that. If you actually read word for word what I have been saying you would've noticed that I am defending the Slavic position first and foremost, with intelligence not blindness. Of course there is a big difference in the parallelism : Serbs do not regard Greeks as inferior (no matter that they are by far superior), while Germans *do* consider Slavs as inferior (when they are *NOT* by far superior, just a tiny little bit - engineering-wise)... Maybe you love Germans for the sake of Slavs? Just thought of attacking the problem from a different perspective. where do you get this idea that Germans saw/see Slavs as inferior? If anything they dislike the Russians above everything (for separate reasons other than being Slavic), but there's nothing to suggest Slavs were inferior. Germans even accept they have Slav in them. My grandfather spent 9 months in a concentration camp in Nuremberg, not because he was Slavic, but because he got ambushed on the battle field as he was their enemy during war, he managed to escape and not even he would say what you're saying. Don't forget Hitler offered us a pact, before anyone else (an alliance with our King) so I don't see how he "hated" Serbs (Slavs).
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 30, 2013 13:19:53 GMT -5
I think that following the paradigm of the main philosophical concepts of WWII (ethnic states, etc..) cannot allow us to fully understand what is going on today. The leaders of our MEGA-NAZI empire (where we both belong, you as a citizen of Canada, and I as a citizen of a remote eparchy in near/middle east) always shift their shape, always evolve, find new ways to maximize their powers. So, they don't give a f**k really about whether Serbs are a nation-state or not. Personally i believe that Serbs are not a nation-state, since we can find the most unbelievable gypsies claiming to be Serb. So on that regard + their communist past, Serbs should be alongside Jews and Saxons design the new countries, borders, bombing, etc.... Apparently it does not work that way. You're not understanding something. Just because they're American doesn't mean they don't understand what the Serbs were fighting for. Supporting the Serbs in 99' was beyond whether you're Slavic, Balkan, Yugo, or anything else; Serbs were up against the nwo, anyone who recognized that supported us, same like now with Syria. Again, the USA, Great Britain, and especially Germany today including the EU countries, are not an example of a nazi empire, it's closer to soviet. : This is where you mixing things up. For example, in this empire, monoculturalism is forbidden, which is the exact opposite of "nazi", fascist or right wing ideology. The propaganda this empire floods our societies with, is not at all like the propaganda the fascist countries were flooding their countries with. That right there is the biggest clue they're the opposite.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 30, 2013 12:50:29 GMT -5
Does this have anything to do with the recent GD arrests? The west used GD just like they used Radovan Karadzic. All of them, GD, Karadzic, Izetbekovic, Tudzman, all were/are on USA payroll. When Karadzic knew that they will screw him, he refused taking their money. Therefore they tried to screw him even more. The recent GD arrests have nothing heroic or anything into it. Just plain old NAZI-western style dealing with small countries. New NAZISM is USA, beating on dead horse (GD) does not mean much anyway. PS for your info, according to most key indices, GD was 1000 times less nationalistic (in the strict meaning of the new-hellenic nation) than Pyrros is. The USA today is nothing like how Fascist Germany and Fascist Italy were like (and those are the countries you should compare too), you can't be serious. Everything about todays American philosophy is pointing towards socialism/far-left, and in a lot of ways this is being done aggressively. This is just factual I'm not a Germanophile, this is just using my head. Same with GD, how on earth can you believe they're an nwo creation, when everything they stand for and do is a counter offensive against them?
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 29, 2013 15:15:37 GMT -5
AntiFa propaganda: (enjoy ) Militant? no kidding. no borders? ... Antifa graffiti. calling for anarchy.... is cool nowadays, who would've thought? wow , in Germany ^ this actually is a very "fascist" thing to say hahaha Where does this black guy expect the "fascists" or the assholes to go... since it is their country, not-the immigrants'. The scariest part is that most of these guys don't even know what the end-game result they are calling for. antiFa activists confront pro-German rally in Stuttgart - don't they look like degenerates, this seems to be a common theme among them. another example of an antiFa move which proves they do not know what they are talking about. Merkel and Sarkozy are closer related to communism than to fascism. Such idiots. Useful idiots that is. now let's take a look at some European patriots; Hungary; these people are labelled "far-right-extremists". England; same as above; these people are labelled "far-right" extremists, maybe it's because they actually put effort in how they present themselves after they roll-out of bed. In France; a pro-European, pro-family and pro-French rally against same-sex marriage. It's important to take a close look at the individuals who take part in these rallies.
There's a clear difference between the antiFa anarchists and pro-Europeans.
Proud French.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 29, 2013 14:17:27 GMT -5
I have noticed an increase in global divide, the rise of certain movements expressing anger and helplessness towards the global-situation we are all experiencing today. The left and right are both unhappy, both sides calling for more to be done, so lets take a look at anti-fa. AntiFa is self-proclaimed anti-fascist movement; they claim to be against "racists", fascists and nationalists worldwide. This movement has become one, worldwide under the banner "AntiFa"... They are pro-homosexual extremism (parades, gay propaganda aimed at children (schools), same sex marriage and gay adoption). They are anti-religion (they insult the Church and spit on anything representing it) look at images online, the blasphemy is beyond belief [the p**y riot is one example only] (and I'm not even religious), and they express Europhobia in the sense that, they are against the idea of "European nations" and call for an increase in mass-immigration (arguing that Europe belongs to everyone), a "one world unity" - one world gov, therefore nwo. Bottome line: THEY ARE AGAINST PATRIOTISM. Their propaganda often calls for riots, instability, violence against the "system" while calling for the murder of all nationalists, while parading signs of anarchy everywhere. IMPORTANT NOTE: their definition of a "Nazi" is anyone who is a nationalist/patriot, not necessarily someone or a group that is actually neo-nazi - in fact most anti-antiFa supporters are not connected to Nazism.
So a big part of their propaganda is that they're [anti-Nazi], when in reality they don't know the definition - this is clear because they compare Europe-today, to fascism under Hitler which is ridiculous...
However, the other side is this. Many argue that AntiFa is just a gang of anarchists and communists, with their sole purpose of existence being to agitate the socio-economic and political interests of native Europeans, especially the working-class. Most AntiFa supporters or agitators are immigrants in the respective country they reside in, uneducated (for the most part) and unemployed. Many of their rallies look like a street circus, with the stench of marijuana everywhere, half/or full naked heterophobes walking the streets, and hippies - young adults who don't know how to dress, have terrible hygiene and love drugs. Here's some photos of AntiFA supporters in action; Looking like clowns (intentionally)... Mike Rosengurg - former anti-fa leader accused of sexual assault - he looks like the perfect role-model don't you think? You can see the "anarchy" sticker on the drum... looks like a carnival... In Russia, punk-rocker antifa protesters. in Germany In Greece ^. Self explanatory. In Germany; the sign says; I Love You Lola - with the communist star In Portland, USA. Germany. In Cologne, Germany. ^^^^these are called "useful idiots", ironically the terms was coined by Vladimir Lenin - meaning people who do not think for themselves or question anything outside of the line parroted in the controlled media. IN OTHER WORDS; They serve the system. Antifa groups clashes are constant against the police and anti-antiFa supporters. Patriotic rallies across Europe get attacked by these antifa groups, while Antifa rallies get attacked by patriots. A viscious-cycle. The Government is watching.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 29, 2013 11:56:18 GMT -5
Does this have anything to do with the recent GD arrests?
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 29, 2013 10:50:13 GMT -5
Hey pyrros ... I'm sure you're following the news; You still think GD is a western-proxy, an nwo-creation, in the pocket of the elites, anti-Greeks? (I remember you saying that if this day came you think again about them...) To be honest I am surprised they lasted this long, GD (party) supporters get attacked in broad daylight if they're wearing anything associated to them - maybe now you understand why they walk together in groups (looking tough)... To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if*gD supporter murdered that rapper, then again, how many murderers, rapists and pedophiles in the USA are registered democrats? --- here's clipping from one of Pavolos' songs; "...Raise your antenna, fuk your fascism, birth of a w**re, yes, you got it right, this one's for you Your choice; hanging or runningfuk every kind of fascist, A*****e lets go for more fuk them, crush them, piss on their faces, and fuk their tribe" is this ^ not hate? .. and yet he's a star? now - imagine a song, with the exact same message, however aimed at "leftists" and "commies"... how long you think that "artist" will last? Rap music in Europe is especially trashy, insulting and degrading on all levels. In Italy I remember hearing lyrics to a song saying something like; I fuk italia, Roma is my bitch and her people are my w**res... and of course, the rapper was a coloured guy (not sure from where), and the song is a hit, on the radio and s**t. The french rapper "Booba" (a morrocan) ; he blames Europeans for all the destruction in the world, in his songs he calls for vengence of the victims of slavery and the holocaust... he raps about "pulling the trigger" on "crackers"... that's right, in France. a clipping from his lyrics; Thanks to them crackers, my pockets are fatter than excess s**t that's weighting on Jasper I've never popped a bottle, but I've f**ked a couple models in Europe Yup, and a couple of them swallowed Meet me half way, bitch I'm going all in And I never pull back, shout-out to my nigga Taco... Bottom line; This IS NOT art, this IS NOT music or creativity - this is hate speech being disguised as art and "expression", don't fool yourself.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 27, 2013 19:58:28 GMT -5
American pseudo theories trying to throw dust at the real truth .... question, then if this war was against people with ethnic consciousness then why : - nationalism is SO much endorsed by the west in Croatia, FBiH, Albania, Kosovo, Greece, Poland, Baltics ?? cough cough .... i will answer this in your usual pro-hitler style..... Just like Germans killed millions of Serbs just because communism for them was the ultimate enemy, even tho they liked Serbs (that is your theory, which i don't buy. Those teuton priests of Satan never liked any Slav). Well, just like the Germans killed Serbs even if supposedly they liked them, same way the new NAZI empire (west) tries to support nationalists where fit, even if they don;t like them (just like Germans supported Boslims, Bulgarians, Croats), just because they serve some BIGGER cause : HATE THE TRUE SLAVS (Russians, Serbs)... Do you have any better theory than that? well?? why does the west support nationalism in selective countries ? Do you know that there Russians with Latvian passports who have changed their names to sound "baltic" : e.g. Igors Malisevs and who will never admit in public that they are Russian (they are afraid of the NAZI nationalistic anti-Slavic gangs back home...) We also see the same pattern scaling up according to the country. E.g. in Poland the NAZI-western media will try accusing Russia 24x7, destroyng anything good those nations had for 1000s of years. *BUT* in Latvia, you will see Russians and Poles and Bulgars joining forces against the local NAZI-western nationalistic mafia. I am 100% sure, if i go to some NAZI-wetsern land (e.g. Latvia) and beat a Russian to death, the western-led NAZI police there will give me medal of honor..... SAME FREAKING THING WITH albs VS Serbs in KOSOVO... For the ones who can't connect the dots.... i don't know So, to conclude here : ethnic states, non-ethnic states, gay marriages, traditional family values .... etc etc ... ALL THAT are just tools in the toolbox of the mega-engineers of our MEGA SUPER WESTERN-ULTRA NAZI- empire, and would use any of those tools accordingly to the occasion. The big thing that they fight is the Slavic world. That is why the most obscure skewing of truth in the last 30 years was only against the Slavs. They tried to downgrade Slavs by the use of propaganda, since they are unable to do it in real life. Funny thing is that 50% of the slavs believe what their western-NAZI-led media tell them... Thank God(s) (Perun, Veles, Triglav) that there is always this 50%.... And this 50% is what makes west-NAZIs dancing on their toes. There's just too much for me to say here. How about you break it down, in terms of what this article is talking about. You call it; "American pseudo theories", how do you mean, when we've talked about exactly this (including with Novi) a billion times. I am not sure if you understood the article then.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 27, 2013 19:47:05 GMT -5
nice rant lol, you'll have to explain this to me some time no rant my Canadian friend. All that i said is just rephrasing yours and your friends (karta) posts. Basically you are easy to justify 1,000,000 yugoslav slavic deaths in return for 1 german soldier just because hitler ... had no choice ..... heck man, if you are to adopt such a sick ideology (nazism) at least do it for the benefit of your own race (Balkan-Slavic). Supporting hitler sounds so hilarious from every aspect. The reason why you and canaris are best pals, are two basically : - Both are Canadian - Both believe in (anti-slavic) theories of western supremacy Well, i wish you an enjoyable time here in the forums, (even if there are less than 2-3 members still writing!!!) and an advice ... stop dealing with politics ... this will get you nowhere.. You are a fine Canadian now, and nothing will change that, till you decide to leave the comfort of mommy-Canada and try to live in the balkans. This is true for Canaris as well... Talk all you want about whatever you want. You will still remain two Canadians in the end.. seeing balkans as an exotic place... and in a position to change emotions like ... t-shirts. When you're studying history about your people it's very important to put emotions aside especially when it's the truth you really want (whether it's nice or ugly - you of all people would get this I would think), otherwise what's the point? investigating Yugoslavia's relationship with the Axis during the WWII from different perspectives wasn't easy, trust me, one-side of my family was communist throughout, while the otherside were Monarchists/royalists - being in Canada and away from all the nonsense actually helped me with this. I am not anti-Slavic, and to be honest I am tired of trying to get you to understand that. If you actually read word for word what I have been saying you would've noticed that I am defending the Slavic position first and foremost, with intelligence not blindness.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 24, 2013 23:01:24 GMT -5
A nation violated at the heart of the Western world, Deserves to be supported by the National Youth That's why we flew in Yugoslav land Meanwhile, Paris is drowning in the spiral of lies while NATO dictates its law, propaganda floods you Meanwhile Belgrade is destroyed by bombs and flames They are not soldiers they slay, but children and women
U.S. Go home
this is what they chanted on bridges From Belgrade to Novi Sad, the Serbian people were at the forefront
NATO Go home
this is what they screamed on bridges This is in solidarity with their suffering its for them we sing
Once there, the welcome is very warm, People of dreams show us places Suddenly the cry of sirens reasoning at the heart of the city The climate is heavy, fear can be read on the eyes Eyes up to the sky in charge of despair Belgrade resigned is immersed, drowned in the dark Blind terrorism strikes at random neighborhoods
U.S. Go home this is what they chanted on bridges From Belgrade to Novi Sad, the Serbian people were at the forefront
NATO Go home
this is what they screamed on bridges It is in solidarity in their suffering, its for them we sing
Then comes the time of the concert on the main square in Belgrade It is time for us to encourage our friends our way What we were proud to wave in front of them the Yugoslav flag The night is a bridge that continues our musical battle The NATO planes began their sad carnival What will they hit this time a school, a hospital? In Paris everyone who cares, it's collateral damage
And you during that time, what did you do in France You who reveled to remain in ignorance Today, Serbia, tomorrow Seine Saint Denis A flag with a crescent float in Paris
NATO Go home
this is what they screamed on bridges It is in solidarity in their suffering, its for them we sing
NATO Go home
this is what they screamed on bridges It is in solidarity in their suffering, its for them we sing
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 24, 2013 18:52:48 GMT -5
^ the first sentence right there is wrong on every academic level, no wonder there's no source for the quote.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 21, 2013 18:06:54 GMT -5
The New World Order by Dr. William Pierce (from the American Dissident Voices broadcast of April 24, 1999)
Today let’s talk about the New World Order. We've talked about it before, and we’ll be talking a lot more about it in the future. I always used to feel a little funny about using that term. It sounds like the sort of terminology right-wing cranks use. And I think many people don’t believe it’s real. They think it’s a concept invented by right-wing cranks who are paranoid about the United Nations. Even when I was being interviewed by the Voice of Iran last week, and I mentioned the New World Order, the interviewer in Teheran asked me what that is, as if it were something he had never heard of before.
Well, during the past few days it has become much easier to talk about the New World Order without having to worry about being considered a right-wing crank. That’s because the whole Clinton gang has begun talking openly about it. Which is to say, the whole New World Order gang has come out of the closet.
Earlier this month Susan Estrich spoke her mind on Clinton’s war against Serbia. Susan Estrich, remember, is the militant radical feminist lawyer — a Jewess, of course — who is a bosom pal of the Clintons and was under consideration for a cabinet post not so long ago. She’s now a law professor at the University of Southern California and a big-shot Democratic Party activist. Estrich is ecstatic about the war. She just loves it. It is, she said:
“The first war of the 21st century: a conflict not about communism, but about race and ethnicity, being waged by committee, against a madman who is not himself a direct threat to the countries waging war against him. . . . [T]he President is committed, and the country is behind him. The number of Americans willing to take the war to the next step—committing ground forces—has in fact been increasing steadily. It speaks well for the future.”
You know, that’s really breathtaking. This radical-feminist Jewess loves this war because, first, it isn’t against communists but is against people who are concerned about ethnicity; second, it is being waged by a committee — feminists believe that everything should be done by a committee; and third, it is a war being waged by countries who have not been threatened in any way by the country they are attacking. In other words, it is not a war to defend America but solely to force a sovereign nation to change its internal policy to suit the tastes of Susan Estrich and company: to force Serbia to stop trying to establish ethnic homogeneity but instead to embrace multiculturalism. One gets the impression that this Jewess also would approve of a war against, say, Saudi Arabia to force that country to establish coed bathrooms in all public buildings.
She says that American public support for escalating the war against Serbia by sending in ground forces has been increasing steadily, and that makes her feel good about the future. This Jewess also felt good about Clinton’s popularity polls during his impeachment. Basically, what she feels good about is the fact that her kinsmen in the media now have a majority of the American electorate whom they are able to manipulate in any way they choose. Just keep the ball games on TV — and the “entitlement” checks in the mail — and they’ll cheer for the folks signing the checks and broadcasting the ball games. Just keep their refrigerators full of beer and they will give thumbs up to a President who has been publicly exposed as a perjuror, a rapist, a degenerate, a draft-dodger, a traitor, a money-launderer, and a cokehead. They really don’t care. Start a war somewhere which they can watch on TV, and they’ll support that too, if Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather and Peter Jennings and the rest tell them to. When they get bored with watching the smart bombs blow up apartment houses and passenger trains and our fighter planes shoot up refugee columns, they’ll cheer the sending in of ground troops so they’ll have something more exciting to watch on their television screens.
Despite the fact that Miss Estrich is not a public official, her views are worth noting. First, she is a member of the Clinton crowd; she shares their values and opinions. Second, she is typical of the arrogant, noisy campus Jews who during the 1960s were trashing deans’ offices and demanding all sorts of Politically Correct changes at American universities. They also were burning ROTC buildings in protest against the Vietnam war. That was a war against communists; remember? A bad war. These Jews have grown up and taken over most of our influential public institutions.
But what Estrich is saying is echoed by all the rest of the Jews and their collaborators. America’s highest paid professional “Holocaust survivor,” Elie Wiesel, showed up at the White House on April 12 to cheer the bombing of Serbia and announce his support for sending in ground troops. Ironically, Wiesel is the recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize — but then so were Henry Kissinger and the late Israeli warlord Menachem Begin. That’s what Nobel Peace Prizes are all about these days.
Probably the most important public figure to declare for the New World Order is Britain’s Tony Blair, the tag-along, wannabee Clintonista that British patriots sneeringly refer to as “Bambi.” In an essay in the April 19 issue of Newsweek magazine Blair declares: “This is a conflict we are fighting not for territory but for values, for a new internationalism where the brutal repression of whole ethnic groups will no longer be tolerated, for a world where those responsible for such crimes have nowhere to hide.”
That’s interesting. The key words here are: “We are not fighting for territory” — and he might also have added, “We are not fighting to defend ourselves or our national interests” — “but we are fighting for a new internationalism,” Blair said.
And of course, “a new internationalism” is simply his way of saying “a New World Order.” And that really is a radical departure from the past, when America and Britain went to war to defend what they considered their national interests, not to impose “a new internationalism” on some other country which just wanted to be left alone. It’s good for America’s soldiers to understand that the reason they’re deliberately bombing civilian targets in Belgrade, shooting up passenger trains, and so on — and occasionally even risking their own lives — is to impose “a new internationalism” on the Serbs. To people like Estrich and Blair and Clinton, having armed forces for the purpose of national defense is old fashioned, an outmoded, 20th-century concept. The really trendy thing now — the 21st-century thing — is to use your armed forces to impose the will of the New World Order on countries too small to hit back.
“Bambi” also said in the April 19 Newsweek that the Serb policy of ethnic cleansing must not only be stopped but also “reversed.” Which really ties in with the insistence of the whole New World Order crowd that no ethnically clean countries will be tolerated in the 21st century. Only “multicultural” countries will be permitted.
General Wesley Clark, the Clinton gang’s political general in charge of NATO and of the current effort to impose “a new internationalism” on the Serbs using cruise missiles, said it as plainly as anyone. Just a few days ago General Clark enunciated the general philosophy of the New World Order and the specific motivation for the assault on Yugoslavia when he told a CNN reporter: “There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th-century idea, and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.”
You know, the specific phrasing may be new, but the attitude, the mindset, behind it is quite old. We could subtract a thousand years from General Clark’s statement, taking us back to the time just before the Crusades, and it would read something like this: “There is no place in modern Europe for pagans or heretics. Paganism is a ninth-century idea, and we are trying to transition into the 11th century, and we are going to do it with Christian states.” A little later one could simply replace “pagan” and “Christian” with “Protestant” and “Catholic,” respectively — or vice versa. That mindset prevailed during Europe’s numerous religious wars up until the middle of the 17th century, a cruel and bloody 650 years during which Europeans slaughtered not only Turks and Arabs but also each other in their “conflicts for values,” as Bambi would have put it.
You know, my main theme is that this change in the reason for which we fight wars is not a good thing. It is not good to attack another country which has not harmed or threatened us in any way and begin killing its people in order to force them to run their country in accord with our beliefs — assuming that the beliefs professed by the Clinton gang actually were our beliefs. That sort of ideological bigotry really smacks of the religious bigotry of the Middle Ages. But before we get into that, let us note that not even the Susan Estriches and Tony Blairs and Wesley Clarks really believe the ideological snake oil they’re trying to sell to the public. In his justification for the bombing of Belgrade and the killing of Serbs Tony Blair wrote in Newsweek: “We need to enter a new millennium where dictators know that they cannot get away with ethnic cleansing or repress their peoples with impunity.”
That’s a crooked statement. Blair understands perfectly well that Slobodan Milosevic is no dictator repressing his people; he is the democratically elected leader of his people and has their strong support. And Blair also understands that the conflict between the government of Yugoslavia and the Albanians in Yugoslavia’s Kosovo province arose in the first place because his good buddy Bill Clinton approved the covert arming and financing of the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army — the KLA — which aimed at driving out the Serbs and establishing an ethnically cleansed Albanian Kosovo.
But even if Bambi has conveniently forgotten these facts, he is not opposed to ethnic cleansing on principle. You can safely bet your bottom dollar that if Milosevic had not moved decisively and crushed the KLA, and the KLA were now doing to the Serbs what the Serbs are doing to the Albanians, Bambi would not be writing indignant essays about it for Newsweek magazine, and Madleine Albright would not be sending her cruise missiles against Tirana instead of against Belgrade. This New World Order gang, which makes such a pretense of being opposed to ethnic cleansing, has not lifted a finger to stop it in a dozen other parts of the world in the last few years. Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is the prime example of this, but many other examples also can be cited: Turkey’s treatment of the Kurds, for example.
All of these New World Order “humanitarians” speak with forked tongues. The simple fact is that they have a plan for Yugoslavia, and for Serbia’s mineral-rich Kosovo province in particular, and the Serbs don’t want to go along. The New World Order gang want Kosovo under Albanian control, because Albanians will take orders from them, while the Serbs won’t. That’s what this war boils down to: making an example out of the Serbs because they’re too independent and are in the way of a plan the New World Order gangsters have for rearranging Europe.
Now let’s look, from a strictly American point of view, at what these gangsters are doing and what they are planning for the future. America’s wars in the 21st century, they are telling us — beginning, actually, with the war against Serbia now — will not be wars to defend our territory or our vital interests but to force other countries to handle their internal affairs in accord with our ideas — or more correctly, in accord with the ideas professed by people like Susan Estrich, General Wesley Clark, and Tony Blair. Bill Clinton is a bit less forthright about this than the aforementioned gangsters: one of the reasons he has been giving us for the war against Serbia is that it is to protect American jobs by keeping Europe stable and prosperous so that it will remain a good market for American products. That explanation is, of course, sheer nonsense. The war against Yugoslavia is hardly doing anything to stabilize Europe, and Mr. Clinton, with his enthusiasm for Chinese imports, certainly isn’t concerned about saving the jobs of American workers.
What the gangsters are doing is transforming America’s armed forces from a national defense force to an enforcer for the New World Order. They are transforming American soldiers from defenders of the American people and the American nation to mercenaries in the service of the New World Order. And they’re actually sending our armed forces out to bomb and kill under these new auspices. The Jewish radicals like Susan Estrich are all for it. The Jewish media bosses are all for it. The 1960s style leftists like Bill Clinton and Tony Blair who grew up chanting for Ho Chi Minh and trashing the dean’s office are all for it. And the political careerists in the military, like General Wesley Clark, are willing to go along with it. The politicians in the Congress are willing to go along too, just as they are willing to go along with anything else the media bosses want.
But what about the American people? What about our Constitution? What about our traditions and our national interests? I realize that the Susan Estriches and Wesley Clarks and Bill Clintons of this world have only contempt for these 19th-century and even older things, but not all of us share their feelings. There are a lot of us who still believe that the affairs of our nation ought to be governed by law, not by whatever the Jewish media bosses and the aging campus radicals left over from the 1960s decide is fashionable for the 21st century.
The men who wrote our Constitution certainly understood that we might have to fight wars in order to defend our territory or our national interests. They had just come through a war against Britain themselves for the sake of securing our freedom and independence. And in the Constitution they provided for such possibilities in the future. But they certainly did not condone the United States sending its armed forces off to meddle in the internal affairs of other countries which were not harming or threatening us. Nor did they intend for our armed forces to be the plaything of the President or anyone else in our government, to be used for furthering some pet project of his overseas. They specifically reserved to the elected representatives of the people the power to wage war against another country.
Now, Mr. Clinton may want to quibble over the meaning of the word “war,” just as he quibbled over the meaning of the word “is” during the great national embarrassment that he visited upon us so recently, but not one of America’s Founding Fathers would call what we are doing in Yugoslavia now anything but “war.” And they would consider it war waged in violation of the Constitution, since the House of Representatives has not authorized it.
I hope you don’t mind my quibbling about these details, about these old-fashioned legalities. I mean, I realize that the same rabble which didn’t want Clinton impeached are happy enough with his war now. And the way the Clinton crowd looks at it, whenever a majority is in favor of something, then it’s all right to do it. It makes no difference how debased and irresponsible that majority is; as long as you’re ahead in the polls, you’re OK. And of course, this Clinton-favoring, bread-and-circuses majority couldn’t care less about old-fashioned legalities. And I’m sorry to say, the gang in the Congress isn’t much more responsible than the majority which still approves of Clinton and his war. Congressmen can count heads as well as the pollsters, and they aren’t going to make much of a fuss about not having actually voted for war against Yugoslavia as long as the media bosses are for it and the rabble don’t care. I suppose the real question here is not whether Clinton’s war is illegal or not. I mean, we’ve pretty well established the principle now that it’s OK for the President to do illegal things, so long as his polls are up. The real question is, what are we old-fashioned, 19th- and 20th-century-style Americans going to do about the misappropriation of our country and our future by the New World Order gang? These people, these Estriches and Clarks and Clintons, have agreed among themselves that from now on they’ll run the world and tell everybody else what to do, committee style, because we’re moving into the 21st century and the rabble will back them. We’re supposed to go along meekly and not make any trouble for them.
Well, I’ll tell you right now, I’m not going to do that. I’ve always been a law-abiding person, but I’m not inclined to let this gang interpret our laws in their way and tell me that from now on everything is going to be different because the polls say it’s OK for them to do whatever they want. From my viewpoint it’s the Clinton gang who are the outlaws, the violators of our Constitution and of all of our old-fashioned legal and moral principles, and anything that we do to oppose them is legal and is morally justified. Anyone who goes along with them is a traitor, in the strict, old-fashioned sense of the word, and anyone who sits on his hands now and refuses to oppose the Clinton gang is not much better.
This trendy, new crowd, which likes to do everything with committees, really believes that all it takes to make anything legal and OK is a majority. I guess they call that democracy. When the majority is what it has become in the United States today, a better name is mobocracy. But really, it’s much worse than mob rule. It is rule by a self-appointed elite of utterly evil and destructive people who have in their hands the tools for controlling and guiding the mob. They’re pretty c**ky now — so c**ky, in fact, that they’re making statements of the sort I’ve quoted today. They’re c**ky because they believe that no one can take away from them their tools for controlling the mob, and that as time passes and America becomes darker and more degenerate, their grip on the mob will only become firmer. Our job is to prove them wrong. It’s a big job, and we’d better get started.
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and on that note, we see "American" policy hasn't changed at all.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 20, 2013 10:47:56 GMT -5
i am outta here .... if any non-Bolshevik (according to Uz) from the greek intelligent service (according to Karta) hears : GUYS!!! I AM SO SORRY!!! I WILL BE PRO-GREEK NOW!!! I WILL GET INTO golden down NOW!!! SORRY SORRY SORRY!!!! I will beat to death my slavic wife, if that serves the western, pro-german, pro-ancient greece supremacy ... I will turn my kids into proper WESTERN kids... ONLY ENGLISH, GERMAN and ancient greek will be allowed !!!! LONG LIVE USA, UK, GERMANY, and GREEK MAKEDOINIA! MAKEDONIA IS GREEK!!! LONG LIVE GREECE!!! DOWN WITH THE DIRTY SLAVS!!! MORE BOMBS TO THE DIRTY SLAVS/SERBS.... TO HELL WITH THE BOLSHEVIK SUBHUMANS!!!!! PLEASE DO NOT ARREST ME... I WILL NEVER EVER EVER WRITE AGAIN IN FAVOR OF SLAVS... LONG LIVE HITLER!!!! DEATH TO SERBS! nice rant lol, you'll have to explain this to me some time
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 19, 2013 11:14:39 GMT -5
Uz, You see, Saxons, Jews, Germans, USA have one thing in common : they thing they are God's chosen one... You can see it in the latest Obama speech : his clearly said : Americans are an "EXCEPTIONAL" nation. Same thing that the Brits say, the Jews, and ofcourse the usual blood drinkers of europe the Germans. THEY ARE ALL f**kING w**reS... and ANTI-GOD(s).... If that's how you think, then what makes Serbs so different? You cannot simply think "the game" is only against Serbs, the same game is being played against everyone. Don't confuse government with people, the USA lost their legitimate government long time ago, and Britain lost it even longer ago... Best players from abroad, where you hear this? I see these "players" all the time. So yeah, now you understand how it's so leftist/commie here. get this; First off, we're a charity case - we bring in hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have no skill whatsoever into this country, then guess what's next, they file for papers WHILE THE GOVERNMENT offers them free-benefits to sign up for, like housing, welfare, disability (its very easy to get free disability money, just go to a paki doctor and say whatever it is you want him to say), grants (the more kids a family has the more $$$ they get) -benefits (a gay coworker of mine got $ 20K GRANT because he brought in his gay boyfriend from Venezuela - the grant was based on diversity- and humanitarianism), free education, etc... you name it. It's sad to say, that my city alone is becoming a third wolder haven it's ridiculous. btw that poster, I am not sure what you mean. My point was that the Bolsheviks were all about "freedom" for them, while "we" the ethnic natives suffer at the expense of the ideology (Bolshevism/communism). The same is happening now all over the West. Look at the message here; A perfectly healthy European couple representing the "child free" life.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 19, 2013 10:35:06 GMT -5
Antihellenic Pissss off! ! Get out of here The Greek Forum is only for Greek members and Philhellenes ! Karta, when seeing something like this, how does it make you feel? (BUT WATCH THE WHOLE THING) hahahaha someone go figure why the embedded doesn't work look here; http: //www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OHbSEJobEzM#t=65
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 17, 2013 21:46:32 GMT -5
Karta, this is all lies.
Communist lies at that.
The Aryans, even according to Hitler/ThirdReich are all Indo-Europeans. Its only been documented ONCE that two National Socialists anthropologists tried to evaluate Slavic inferiority in order to explain their drift into Communism (something inherently seen as anti-European), but this research immediately stopped when their findings showed Slavic influence, both genetic and historic throughout Germany and Austria, and specifically in the region where Hitler was from. Nowhere, in Nazi policy did they see Slavs as non-European, inferior or classified among the Untermensch this is what the communist side was pedaling. because this term was directed at them and all other Bolshevik groups and proxies, and Russians were seen as victims of the Untermensch.
I know I am treading dangerous water here lol but it's true, find me one quote from any Nazi document, or a dictation by a party official who stated Slavs were inferior -
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 17, 2013 21:22:59 GMT -5
That would actually be devastating, Yugoslavs had it fairly well compared to how the Soviets lived, then again Yugoslavia didn't go completely communist that's why. the end result is the same, The british have f**ked yugoslavs in every possible hole with every kind of lubricant and in every possible position and we keep blaming the bad Stalin and the bad soviets? ?? The brits are responsible for distancing the yugoslavs from their northern brothers ... It is no secret that today majority of GODD TRUE SLAV SERBS have positive emotions about yugoslavia and also GOOD TRUE SLAV RUSSIANS have positive emotions about CCCP, and that those british prostitutes are the ones who created hatred between the Russians and the Serbs... and then all scratched their heads why Russian didn't intervene in 1999.... why? because Serbs were laughing at their "inferior" neighbors for about 40 years ... they kept going to Hungary/Czechoslovakia, screw any female walking around and then come back and brag about the greatness of western yugoslavia..... Same thing Greeks did from 1990->2010, same thing with the f**king arabs in the arabian emirates... THAT IS WHAT THE WESTERN SATANS DO TO PPLS MINDS... Don't know about USSR... but if they really killed anything bad inherent within the outdated russian soul.. it was a good thing.. Question : how many INVENTIONS were happening during USSR by slavs? ? now? ?? ok, i agree that jews were behind, they were/are/will be ALWAYS behind.. Isn't alarming the fact that this albanian Karta seem to have similar opinions with you about bad communists, bad russians, .... "Bad Stalin" is used as platform for demonization of the SLAVS.... i wont buy it thanx... And the albanian here is the proof. Through concepts like "bad Stalin" he feels free to unleash his anti-slavic sentiments, against Russians, Slavs, and as you saw by yourself ANTI-SERBIAN as well.... Wanna know what i think?? I agree communism was a NWO. Jews were behind it, as you have shown.... Jews must have been behind America/UK/Germany and every other freaking empire on this earth, you name it.. I have a pelestenian friend who also supports that Jews were behind the Pharao's in Egypt, Roman empire, Holy Roman german empire and so forth... He is too gay to admin that Jews might have been behind the Arabic empire as well... nooooooo the Arabs were the good guys.... Same thing i tell him that the Slavs are the good guys and each one tries to portray his own like the good ones... i have read a piece of speech by Stalin just before WWII... this is so interesting ... Lots of content here, amazing. Let's just be clear that by seeing Stalin as anti-Russian/Slavic, he therefore does not represent Slavism regardless of what others' think. There's just too much evidence of crimes and policies he enacted himself in which primarily effected the native Slavic peasant/population, they were being sacrificed literally. I mean, if you read western sources it's very bad, just imagine how much worse material of evidence the Russians have documented, there's a reason why today in Russia we see a rise in nationalism, their wounds from the soviet era plus the effects of the cold war are healing. They're finding their way now, we see they are getting stronger, ie Syria - Russia (or any other country) for the first time in a long time directly threatened the USA. On the other hand Yugoslavia was something different but still based on marxist principles. Karta's view on communism isn't linked to Slavs, from what I am getting. Even if so, it's wrong and doesn't offend me because it only means he doesn't understand. That;s not true from where I am standing. Being communist here is "cool" among the young adults, leftist extremism in general and among the degenerates its' "anarchism", what mainstream music is all about if you actually listen or read the lyrics of top 40 hits. Majority of the youth are too stupid to really see what they're calling for and that's the point, and why they wont self proclaim themselves as communists, their ideals in disguise are. a clear and yet basic example is this; A Soviet propoganda poster I believe from 1939 promoting open-homosexuality among the new proletariat. *I'll get back you later about the speech you posted, I want to take my time with reading it.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 16, 2013 16:11:49 GMT -5
The Fyromanians are in fact former bulgarians. Some of them don't admit it. This is sad, very sad.. They will soon become Albanian citizens of which will solve the name dispute. And again this is sad... Greeks need to first rid the traitors in their Government.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 16, 2013 16:02:49 GMT -5
Screw him, he now plays the "white gene" card after he decided to "fall in love" with her, and have a mixed racial child with her? I see your point hellboy but that's their (dark muslims) prerogative, ultimately it is up to the ethnic European (the caucasian), us to decide. In other words, Europeans need to become racially aware before reality hits us like a bomb. I have a feeling that many of these white guys don't care. They come to non-white communities and the people come all over them like flies. I think these white guys like that. It's makes them feel like a king. You're probably right hellboy, those are normally the Leftists who think with pity (inadvertently looking down on the people) , this is why I do not sympathize with them when they get screwed over. They have it coming.
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Post by Balkaneros on Sept 16, 2013 15:53:35 GMT -5
never it's to late ... When people want to see the Acropolis, they go to Greece. And to have to explain to the people that Britain has some of the pieces just makes the trip to Greece less magical. Then again, Britain does not have a history as grand and marvelous as Greece's, so it is obvious why they are trying to keep whatever pieces of history from other countries they have obtained. It's true.
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